Elizabeth Warren votes against Obama trade nominee

[bemildred]

Source: Boston Globe

WASHINGTON, DC - Senator Elizabeth Warren, who has been critical of Republicans for blocking President Obama’s nominees, was among just four senators to oppose Michael Froman’s nomination as US Trade Representative on Wednesday.

Warren, a Massachusetts Democrat, had been seeking a transparency pledge from Froman, whose confirmation was approved on a 93 to 4 vote.

On the Senate floor, Warren said that she has been concerned over ongoing negotiations over an agreement called the Trans-Pacific Partnership.

“I have heard the argument that transparency would undermine the trade representative’s policy to complete the trade agreement because public opposition would be significant,” she said, according to text of her speech provided by her office. “If transparency would lead to widespread public opposition to a trade agreement, then that trade agreement should not be the policy of the United States.”

Read more: http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2013/06/20/elizabeth-warren-votes-against-obama-trade-nominee/jZ0TQEuGdQRI9BjNYsYTHN/story.html

[arcane1]

1. "a 93 to 4 vote"

I suppose that says it all, right there.

[bemildred]

2. It says we need to elect Ms. Warren some more help. nt

[arcane1]

10. Exactly!!

[msongs]

3. "...government of the people, by the people, for the people..." is DOA. Obama is no Lincoln nt

[bvar22]

4. This is worth a REPEAT!!!!

[font size=3]"If transparency would lead to widespread public opposition to a trade agreement, then that trade agreement should not be the policy of the United States."[/font] ---Senator Elizabeth Warren

[font size=4]OUTSTANDING!!![/font]

....and THAT is why it is so sad.
Senator Warren IS outstanding while she should be indistinguishable from the pack of Democrats that are also Just Doing Their Jobs.

When ONE Democrat who is just doing her job becomes so noteworth and outstanding,
then we have a BIG problem.

Thank You, Senator Warren
for just doing your job.




You will know them by their [font size=3]WORKS,[/font]
not by their promises or excuses.

[graham4anything]

5. 93 to 4 shows, an 80-20 USA votes are indeed possible and coming soon. That is the focus.

Congratulations president Obama.

[djean111]

8. Congratulations for what? A secretive, disgusting trade deal?

Sounds like a stinking bad trade deal that only the Kochs and their minions will love.
If the TPP is as bad as it sounds, your little 80-20 thingy might not work out the way you think it will.

[arcane1]

11. What do you mean by 80-20?

[xtraxritical]

18. What does he ever mean? I can't figure.

[QC]

37. I think it has something to do with beer and travel money.

Perhaps many interesting experiences as well.

[djean111]

45. He means that Congress will be 80% Dem and 20% GOP, I believe.

[arcane1]

48. Ah, I get it. I thought it was a prediction that all future Senate votes would be 80 to 20

[djean111]

49. You may be right.

[theaocp]

12. Do tell, WHY THE FUCK

do you think Republicans (let alone the Democrats) are going along with this? Did he suddenly break through the gridlock or what?

[Phlem]

20. Dude

He has no idea.

has no sense of the depth of bullshit that we're in. All he cares is that you shine O''s ass, and bow to the all powerful Hillary and, his quote, "Hillary has no skeletons in her closet".

he's just a pain in the "truths" ass.

-p

[Maven]

39. LoZoccolo is that you?

I mean this has to be some kind of Andy Kaufman-esque performance going on here.

[rhett o rick]

65. 93 Republicans and 4 Democrats. That's what I read. nm

[rhett o rick]

78. 93 to 4 shows that our Senate has a lot of f'n bipartisan corporatists. Most of the so-called

Democrats in the Senate are making no bones that they support the 1%.

[graham4anything]

79. and if 60 were needed, Elizabeth Warren would be the 60th and tiebreaking vote.

it's just a game when its a landslide, she would vote one way, and as a 60th, the other

Elizabeth Warren IS a team player.

Like Dennis Kucinich was each and every time in the house his vote was needed.
When it wasn't he didn't need his vote to count, but when his vote is needed, he gave his all to the President

Just like in the republican party 100% of the time Rand Stands with the Bush family and so did Ron
100% of the time when a tiebreaking vote was needed
(Ron Paul voted for WAR and Afghanastan after all back then after Osama Bin Laden took down the world trade center when 3000 lives were lost, lest one forget).

[CanonRay]

6. Sadly, I trust Elizabeth Warren more than I trust President Obama

and I don't think that's a comment on me.

[graham4anything]

13. So, when Sen. Warren congratulates Hillary Clinton on the nomination, I trust that you shall trust

her good judgement.

It is truly though amazing the way the OP Headline/link/article has slanted the story.
But then as I always say, the media, mainstream and minor league, will do anything in an attempt to embarrass OUR President.

the whole article is truly another smear job, and I am sure Sen. Warren is mortified that she is portrayed that way in the article.
(unless of course you know inside information to say otherwise).

especially as Team Obama includes all the democratic party office holders, each playing their position quite well.
Keeps the other side not knowning which way to go next.

It's a win-win-win

because democratic party does nuance.

[JDPriestly]

22. Here is my response.

[DonCoquixote]

44. Ditto

There are times I seriously ponder forming a No Hillary 2016 group on here, but the flames would be too annoying.

[mountain grammy]

52. I totally respect and admire Hillary, but would consider joining that group.

She would not be my choice for 2016, but Warren? Now, that's another story.

[Awknid]

71. I agree whole heartedly!

[Chan790]

58. If you change your mind...

and want to start that group, count me in.

[dflprincess]

82. I would join n/t

[Maedhros]

24. But you claim EVERYTHING is a smear job.

A weather forecast could call for rain in Washington DC and you'd claim it was a right wing attack on Obama.

[Jim Lane]

42. I also trust Warren more than Obama -- much, much more

If Hillary Clinton is the nominee, then I'm sure that both Warren and Obama will congratulate her, endorse her, and work for her. They will make the judgment that she's better than the Republican, a judgment that will certainly be correct. For my part, I'll vote for her, albeit unenthusiastically.

If, in the 2016 primaries, Warren endorses a candidate, be it Clinton or anyone else, I would give that endorsement a little weight, but not a huge amount. I trust Warren but my support for her isn't a cult of personality.

Of course, if Warren herself runs (which I consider very unlikely), I'll be very likely to support her in the primaries.

[MannyGoldstein]

51. Deep breath. Deep breath.

Look, some of us feel that we need to return to the economic policies that made America what it was from the 1930s to the 1970s.

A Clinton won't do it.

An Obama won't do it.

[sheshe2]

61. +1! nt

[NorthCarolina]

62. If you agree with ^^^Post 13^^^, then comment below please.

I would LOVE to see how many here on DU think this way. Step up and show your true colors...any takers?

[treestar]

56. That's hilarious.

[frylock]

7. keep fighting the good fight, Senator!

[yurbud]

9. whew! I'm glad to hear sees sticking on the progressive side.

[azurnoir]

14. woderful the public wouldn't like it soooooo

we'll keep it secret

[DeSwiss]

15. K&R

"The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

[JDPriestly]

23. May I second your post and add a link?

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/p/patrickhen143315.html

[blackspade]

75. +1000

[AzDar]

16. Maybe she can *undo* this monstrosity when she's President.

N/T

[Phlem]

17. We still have to deal with the

"President Obama is doing an outstanding job all the way around."

"That's just wrong to look so effortlessly relaxed, happy & handsome."

crowd on DU.

But yea, Warren for president any day, how about yesterday!



-p

[xtraxritical]

19. Neither effing article could bother to name the other three Senators. wtf?

Great reporting. NOT

[arcane1]

25. That bugged me too. Here's the info:

"Voting against From were an independent, Bernie Sanders of Vermont, and three Democrats: Carl Levin of Michigan, Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts. "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/michael-froman-confirmed_n_3469031.html


In other words: every republican voted "yes".

[daleanime]

33. Things that make you go....

Huh?

[xtraxritical]

40. I just knew Bernie would be one of them!

[JDPriestly]

21. Join me in supporting Elizabeth Warren for president in 2016.

[summer-hazz]

27. I will

join you in Warren for President!

Wish I had a sticker, maybe in the future
I can figure out how to attach it to my posts!!

Congratulations Ms Warren and thank you for being on the
side of the people..
Unfortunately, we have only 4 in Washington....

[JDPriestly]

28. I got mine from Manny Goldstein.

He explained to me how to attach it. Ask him.

[summer-hazz]

43. Thank you

I will do that!

[daleanime]

34. Hell ya......

[Orsino]

38. Love to. n/t

[Beacool]

26. Oops, there goes Warren under the bus.

[NYC_SKP]

30. Now, now...

When she's president and has to represent everyone and work with both sides of the aisle, watch, she'll be compared to Hitler, too!

How ya doin, Beacool?

[Doctor_J]

31. Are you sure? Maybe she doesn't play chess

[East Coast Pirate]

32. When you have to work with both sides of the isle

anything can be forgiven.

[Beacool]

50. She can become president only if Hillary chooses not to run.

I'm actually sick with a stomach virus for most of the week. On the up side, I lost 5 lbs.




Greetings to you and the pooches.

[treestar]

57. Exactly.

It's hilarious the same people who will call us idiots for supporting Obama now sound like they've found a new hero and ignoring 2014, pant for 2016 so they can have a new Messiah, who will only be stuck with the same situation.

[flamingdem]

63. ^^ we have a winner

Thanks for the reminder that reality

[rhett o rick]

67. Do you support the Trans-Pacific Partnership? nm

[treestar]

69. I really don't know

I don't know enough about it yet.

I don't find hair on fire about it here to be objective or informative.

It sounds complicated. It would take a while for me to figure out how to make up my mind.

I don't blindly follow Elizabeth Warren's opinion, nor the President's, so if they differed, I would have to learn each one's views and the supports they give for their positions.

[rhett o rick]

73. I dont disagree. The problem I see is that the Admin is not forth coming with information which

always make me suspicious. I dont like the "trust us we will take good care of you," rhetoric.

[rhett o rick]

68. Do you support the Trans-Pacific Partnership. nm

[NYC_SKP]

70. No nm

[boilerbabe]

29. ooh she must be racist according to that drunk guy in Salt Lake City!

[burnodo]

36. she's a racist

and if she's not a racist, she's a hater

and if she's not a hater, she's a Republican plant

there must be SOME reason that she didn't do what Obama told her to do

[nolabels]

46. In god we trust

But as a substitute teacher, i think she could do just fine.

The establishment is just SO not ready for a person of influence to speak for the behalf of the public

[Jefferson23]

41. Clear and to the point. Her diplomatic approach is very good, I would have said and poorly so,

this is just one more bullshit policy we don't need.

Touche Senator.

K&R

[felix_numinous]

47. Who would think that blind trust

is now expected of Americans to this degree? I understand the need for some classification, but beyond a certain point secrecy threatens public trust, it does not support it.

[Fearless]

53. Good for her!

Keep it up!

[blkmusclmachine]

54. +1.

[Douglas Carpenter]

55. knr

[dmosh42]

59. Just the fact of all those Repub votes tells us she is right in her vote!

[steve2470]

60. k&r nt

[Ter]

64. Who were the other three?

The article didn't say.

[Proud Public Servant]

66. Levin, Sanders, and Manchin

Odd bedfellows -- and it says something that the dissenting voices were all Dems.

[Arkana]

72. She voted against Froman, but she allowed it to come to a vote.

I don't see how the two situations are even remotely comparable. Warren isn't being obstructionist.

[rhett o rick]

74. Some apologists are saying they dont know because this is a complicated issue. I say it is very

easy to decide. Every single Republican supports this man and the TPP. Do I have to say more??

In the lead up to the Bush Iraq War, some where whining that it was a complicated issue. Bullshit, it was easy. If Bush favored invasion, then smart people should oppose. Simple.

[midnight]

76. I agree. When 600 corporate executives legislate the TPP in secret, then smart people should

oppose it...

[CountAllVotes]

77. Senator Elizabeth Warren

Osiyo Senator Warren:

I have a message for you and that message is, PLEASE RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

We need you and need you badly!!!

& recommend!!!

[rks306]

80. She would make a find PRESIDENT

Free trade stinks we always get the short end of the stick.

[Skittles]

81. shows that real progressives are becoming extinct