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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:26 AM Jun 2013

Bloomberg Asks Donors to Shut Wallets Over Senators’ Gun Votes

Source: New York Times

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg, in a sharp escalation in the battle over gun control, is seeking to punish Democratic senators by taking away the one thing they most need from New Yorkers: money. On Wednesday, Mr. Bloomberg will send a personal letter to hundreds of the biggest Democratic donors in New York urging them to cut off contributions to the four Democratic senators who helped block a bill in April that would have strengthened background checks on gun purchasers.

The move could inflame tensions that have simmered for weeks between Mr. Bloomberg, who blames the four Democrats for the defeat of the bill, and Democratic Senate leaders, who have privately told City Hall that the attacks can serve only to empower a Republican majority openly hostile to Mr. Bloomberg’s priorities. By appealing to the Democrats’ financial base, Mr. Bloomberg is exploiting his relationships and prestige among wealthy New Yorkers to disrupt the flow of campaign money to key Democrats whose re-election next year will help determine whether the party retains control of the Senate. No state is more essential to the party’s fund-raising: Sitting Democratic senators and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee raised $30.4 million from New York donors in 2012, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, more than in any other state.

And the four Democratic senators who sided with Republicans filibustering the background check bill — Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Max Baucus of Montana, Mark Begich of Alaska and Heidi Heitkamp of North Dakota — have raised more than $2.2 million from New York. In an interview, Mr. Bloomberg said he believed gun deaths had reached such a state of crisis that he needed to force the issue. “If they come and ask for the money, you say to them, ‘What do you stand for?’ ” he said. “I want to tell people what these four stand for. And then people can make up their own minds.”

Mr. Bloomberg’s strategy creates a tricky situation for Senate Democrats. They do not wish to alienate the billionaire mayor, who has become increasingly aggressive and outspoken on the issue. But they say he should be more sympathetic, given that their party, with its fragile majority, has tried to take on the difficult subject of increasing restrictions on guns in the face of hostility from Republicans.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/12/nyregion/bloomberg-urges-no-gifts-to-democrats-who-blocked-gun-bill.html

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graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
1. getting rid of guns/bullets from the street is the single most important issue of our lifetime.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 07:35 AM
Jun 2013

after all, there is NO any rights for people like Trayvon Martin who are shot dead in cold blood
and all the thousands and thousands a year others who lose their freedom, their right to assemble peacefully and
everything else.

and after all, all the smears against the president are just because of the NRA and immigration.

While President Obama wants to go forward
the opposition wishes to go back to 1859 and the wild wild west

there is a reason the NRA hates Mike Bloomberg.

(btw, for those who want something done for climate control, what a super duper great plan Mayor Bloomberg announced yesterday
to stop another devastating flood like happened during Sandy.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
3. Doesn't make alot of sense, does it.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 09:49 AM
Jun 2013

These states are not going to elect pro gun control reps., what will happen is that they'll probably re-elect these Senators, with the exception of Max Baucus who's retiring, just to poke a stick in Bloomberg's eye.

Here in Nevada, Bloomberg's gun control ads are creating a big backlash against SB. 221, the calls and e-mails to Gov. Sandoval to veto it is running 3-1, so, because of Bloomberg's interference in Nevada politics, we're not going to get a universal background check law, which I happen to support.

Thanks Mikey for all you do.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
5. You do realize that those 4 states are very pro gun, don't you?
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:10 AM
Jun 2013

They will never elect a pro gun control candidate to the Senate, what will happen is that they'll either re-elect the incumbents, or elect pro gun Repubs, thus giving control of the Senate to the Repubs.
Do you really want that to happen?

Paladin

(28,280 posts)
6. Gee, when you put it that way.....
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:32 AM
Jun 2013

I guess we just ought to give up all hope of ever enacting sane gun laws in this country, fold our tents, and slink quietly away under cover of darkness. Woe is us......












 

premium

(3,731 posts)
8. So instead of snide ass remarks,
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 11:53 AM
Jun 2013

what would be your solution for those 4 states?
I can state that here in Nevada, Bloomberg's ads have badly backfired, we had a real chance of getting UBC, which I support, but because his highness decided to interfere in Nevada politics, the calls and e-mails to Gov. Sandoval's office are now running 3-1 against him signing SB 221 into law.

And those 4 states are even more pro gun than Nevada.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
10. IOW, you have no solution, only snide remarks.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 12:40 PM
Jun 2013

If you have a solution to this, I would love to hear it.

Paladin

(28,280 posts)
11. There is no solution by way of dialog, compromise, or agreement on some middle ground.
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 12:55 PM
Jun 2013

The only way sensible gun laws are going to be put in place is by the exercise of raw political power. The only question is how many more mass murders have to take place in order for that to happen.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
13. Well, well, well...
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jun 2013

After around four decades of getting everything they demanded (starting with the Gun Control Act of 1968), the gun-control lobby is shocked - shocked! - that legislators, including a growing number of Democrats, are finally telling them "no."

Methinks you're not in the best position to rule out compromise or dialog at this point in favor of steamrolling the American public. Gun owners have had to give, give, give over the past four decades, getting nothing back in return for their capitulation. I don't want the NRA turning our schools into armed camps ("Okay, students, which one of you didn't turn in your homework? *snick-snick*), but I certainly can't blame them for their recalcitrance.

Gun-control organizations such as the Brady Campaign and MAIG have wanted gun lobby representatives to come to the table so they could twist their arms into a new round of compromises. Don't be surprised if the reverse happens this time around - but the tragedy of this tale is that their are some battles, such as the fight over Toomey-Manchin, that the NRA was never supposed to win.

Paladin

(28,280 posts)
15. Yeah, let's all get teary-eyed for the poor gun movement....
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 08:04 AM
Jun 2013

...because all they've done for the last 40 years is "give, give, give."

Christ, do you even read your statements before you post them, anymore? We live in a country where a mass shooting of first grade school children by a well-armed lunatic fails to result in the implementing of background checks that 90% of the public---and 75% of "recalcitrant" NRA members---favor, and you're whining about how downtrodden the poor gun rights movement is? The Supreme Court gift-wraps the Heller decision and drops it off at the NRA's front door, and yet we're supposed to believe that gun militants have suffered from repeated capitulation at the hands of the all-powerful Brady Campaign? That would be the same Brady Campaign that has been laughed at for years down in the Gun Control/RKBA group as being terminally impotent, right?

Thanks for proving my statement so correct: there is no compromise, no establishment of a middle ground, no dialog with the likes of you. It's going to take a lot longer than it should, and a lot more blood is going to be spilled than is necessary in this "well regulated" nation of ours, but your side is going to lose.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
16. The only way your side can win is by updating your current playbook...
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:04 PM
Jun 2013

...which, by my calendar, hasn't been updated in 20 years. Time to evolve new ideas instead of more of the same.

SlipperySlope

(2,751 posts)
12. So is this the new Democratic litmus test?
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 05:30 PM
Jun 2013

I don't appreciate Bloomberg's strategy here, especially since being able to elect "conservative" candidates in conservative states is exactly what has given the Democratic party its current majority.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
14. Bloomber is no friend of Democrats, that's for certain
Wed Jun 12, 2013, 09:13 PM
Jun 2013

Oh, sure, he'll pose for the cover of Time with Gabrielle Giffords, but then he'll turn right around and continue working for all sorts of policies and laws that Democrats cannot abide.

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