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Beastly Boy

(9,378 posts)
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 11:04 PM Apr 8

Israel strikes Hamas launchers embedded in Khan Yunis humanitarian area

Source: Jerusalem Post

The Israel Air Force (IAF) fighter jets conducted multiple strikes over the last few days on three Hamas rocket launch posts, the IDF said on Monday.

The posts were discovered using direct operational identifications in a designated humanitarian area in western Khan Yunis. Allegedly, they were used to carry out attacks towards southern Israel throughout the recent months of fighting.

Prior to the attack, the IDF verified the evacuation of civilians and accurately targeted the launchers.
The strikes harmed no innocent civilians.

The military added that Hamas's use of rocket launchers embedded in a humanitarian area was further proof of the terror organization's exploitation of civilian populations and humanitarian compounds and areas.

On Sunday, three rocket launches were identified from the area of Khan Yunis, targeting communities near the Gaza Strip. Luckily, the launches fell in open areas.


Read more: https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-795924

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Israel strikes Hamas launchers embedded in Khan Yunis humanitarian area (Original Post) Beastly Boy Apr 8 OP
Uh oh. Well, I guess it's time to starve more random civilians to death. That'll teach 'em!!!1111!!! PSPS Apr 8 #1
A rather strange conclusion, given the content of the article. Beastly Boy Apr 8 #2
Well, OK. Let's have it your way PSPS Apr 8 #3
Weird how you never hear about Hamas fighters starving to death. SunSeeker Apr 8 #4
Ok, let's have it your way Beastly Boy Apr 8 #5
It's like being inside a black hole's horizon. Igel Apr 9 #51
Knee jerk reactions ... what a surprise. AnrothElf Apr 9 #9
Not a single word of condemnation for Hamas in your response? Happy Hoosier Apr 9 #16
Yes, Hamas is planning to do just that SlimJimmy Apr 9 #17
Agree..the Palestinians are not all innocent victims.. agingdem Apr 9 #33
I hope you don't mind this, madaboutharry Apr 9 #55
You think the civilians were eating those rocket launchers? Dr. Strange Apr 9 #39
Hamas are some sick nutjobs, setting up rockets in a humanitarian area. SunSeeker Apr 8 #6
Not just HAMAS but its defenders as well. Behind the Aegis Apr 9 #7
Yup. nt SunSeeker Apr 9 #8
Yeppers JustAnotherGen Apr 9 #27
When was the last time those "launchers" were used? TeamProg Apr 9 #10
On Sunday. SunSeeker Apr 9 #11
Be more specific. Beastly Boy Apr 9 #12
The article you linked gives no specifics at all, except that the rocket launchers were used in recent months! That TeamProg Apr 9 #14
Would they have been able to easily be used again? Freethinker65 Apr 9 #28
Your question was directed to me, not the publisher of the article. Beastly Boy Apr 9 #32
How many rocket launchers would you allow Hamas to have? NickB79 Apr 9 #43
History will not be kind. You should want to be on the correct side. TeamProg Apr 9 #44
The correct side according to who? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 9 #45
The majority of your fellow U.S. citizens. TeamProg Apr 9 #48
Is that from some poll? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 9 #49
Is history saying Hamas should have rocket launchers then? NickB79 Apr 9 #50
Victors write the history. Igel Apr 9 #52
Dude or Dudette, quit being coy, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 9 #47
Hmmmm, seems to be some defending or deflecting MarineCombatEngineer Apr 9 #13
Well, that is a meritless accusation. Please try to keep it together. Since there have been zero reports TeamProg Apr 9 #15
What I see is people so all in on "Israel BAD" that... Happy Hoosier Apr 9 #18
When did Hamas steal the 60% of aid to the Palestinians, SlimJimmy Apr 9 #19
That is not the news I've read anywhere in at DU. What I read about is the difficulty and danger of being killed by the TeamProg Apr 9 #20
"Since there have been zero reports of Israeli deaths by Hamas rockets..." Really? EX500rider Apr 9 #36
Re: Hamas. This is what needs to be focused on. TeamProg Apr 9 #37
Did he force them to be a terrorist group? If not, I will focus on that, thanks EX500rider Apr 9 #40
And there you go again, deflecting or hijacking the thread, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 9 #46
I supported Israel until their bombs would NOT STOP FALLING on Palestinian civilians, schools and hospitals. So, sure, TeamProg Apr 9 #21
What did you support? maxsolomon Apr 9 #22
I have asked that question REPEATEDLY and never get a response. n/t Coventina Apr 9 #25
I find Search Forum to be an interesting feature sarisataka Apr 9 #24
So you finally found something you posted in support of Israel? Beastly Boy Apr 9 #34
Too far back, before the genocide started. Not going to search back that far. You probably see the disgust about what is TeamProg Apr 9 #35
I don't expect you to go back to 1941. Beastly Boy Apr 9 #41
I call fallacy. False choice. Igel Apr 9 #54
So then, how do these facts fit your choice of options ? TeamProg Apr 10 #56
You keep posting that, but the PA & Hamas did the heavy lifting on keeping the power divided EX500rider Apr 10 #58
Bibi gave economic benefits to Hamas contolled areas but NOT to the PA areas. So, duh, of course voters are going TeamProg Apr 10 #59
"Obviously I've struck a nerve." lol, if you say EX500rider Apr 10 #60
" before the genocide started" Genocide..I wonder who I should believe..you, or... EX500rider Apr 10 #57
Re: Hamas. This is what needs to be focused on. TeamProg Apr 9 #38
Not at this point. Beastly Boy Apr 9 #42
I read about how that the al-Ahli hospital bombing was Israeli. Igel Apr 9 #53
I presume this operation is acceptable? maxsolomon Apr 9 #23
I'm wondering how they ascertained that Bayard Apr 9 #30
I think they gave everyone a heads-up and it was only the launch sites maxsolomon Apr 9 #31
Are we surprised, no, I'm not. republianmushroom Apr 9 #26
Surprised that Hamas stages attacks from humanitarian areas? sarisataka Apr 9 #29

Beastly Boy

(9,378 posts)
2. A rather strange conclusion, given the content of the article.
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 11:32 PM
Apr 8

A guess that it's time to hold Islamic Jihad responsible for the lies it spreads never occurred to you, did it?

PSPS

(13,604 posts)
3. Well, OK. Let's have it your way
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 11:36 PM
Apr 8

Uh oh. Islamic Jihad is spreading lies!! I guess it's time to starve more random civilians to death. That'll teach 'em!!!1111!!!

SunSeeker

(51,578 posts)
4. Weird how you never hear about Hamas fighters starving to death.
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 11:47 PM
Apr 8

You don't suppose Hamas is stealing the random civilians' food, do you?

Beastly Boy

(9,378 posts)
5. Ok, let's have it your way
Mon Apr 8, 2024, 11:52 PM
Apr 8

Uh oh, it's 11:50 pm Eastern time. I guess it's time to starve more random civilians to death.

How difficult is it to stay on subject without resorting to gratuitous deflections anyway?

Happy Hoosier

(7,343 posts)
16. Not a single word of condemnation for Hamas in your response?
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 11:16 AM
Apr 9

WTF are you thinking? You're fine with Hamas deliberately embedding military assets in humanitarian zones?

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
17. Yes, Hamas is planning to do just that
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 11:17 AM
Apr 9

by stealing 60% of the aid that Israel and other countries send to Gaza. I have just about had it with this, Israel is the bad guy BS. Israel has done nearly everything it can to avoid civilian casualties, and sent literally tons of aid to Gaza. Yes, mistakes are made. But have you heard of Hamas ever conducting an investigation into their actions? Of course not. There certainly is a genocide happening, but it's not Israel who's attempting it, it's Hamas (on its own people).

agingdem

(7,850 posts)
33. Agree..the Palestinians are not all innocent victims..
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 12:59 PM
Apr 9

Last edited Wed Apr 10, 2024, 07:04 AM - Edit history (5)

they overwhelmingly support Hamas, willingly act as human shields, and condone Hamas stockpiling weapons in tunnels under schools/mosques/hospitals...Hamas diverts humanitarian aid (money, medical supplies, food) into their own pockets and then blames Israel because Gazans are poor, without medicine, and starving...

and yes, in war innocents die..children/aid workers...buildings are leveled/towns decimated but what seems to be forgotten is this is a war Israel did not start..

I give Hamas "credit"...they have harnessed global hatred for Jews and for the State of Israel...beheading babies, torturing and dismembering children, gang raping women, setting the elderly and disabled on fire, turning a music festival into a killing field, and capturing/holding hostage Israeli citizens is somehow a horror Israel brought on itself..and Hamas and the Palestinians are the real victims...give me a fucking break!!



madaboutharry

(40,212 posts)
55. I hope you don't mind this,
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 11:40 PM
Apr 9

after reading your post I feel like giving you a hug.

I think I am where you’re at, completely disheartened.

TeamProg

(6,160 posts)
10. When was the last time those "launchers" were used?
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 01:08 AM
Apr 9

Just asking for a friend.

Oh , I see, “recent months” as in 5 months ago? 6?

How nice.

SunSeeker

(51,578 posts)
11. On Sunday.
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 03:29 AM
Apr 9
On Sunday, three rocket launches were identified from the area of Khan Yunis, targeting communities near the Gaza Strip. Luckily, the launches fell in open areas.

https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-795924




TeamProg

(6,160 posts)
14. The article you linked gives no specifics at all, except that the rocket launchers were used in recent months! That
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 10:53 AM
Apr 9

could be as distant as 4, 5 or six months ago.

Freethinker65

(10,027 posts)
28. Would they have been able to easily be used again?
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 12:26 PM
Apr 9

If the article is true, I can understand wanting to do a clean sweep of Gaza, ridding it of weapon launchers and ammo within striking distance of Israeli communities, before any permanent pull out.

However, this is no excuse for denying/delaying humanitarian aid.

Beastly Boy

(9,378 posts)
32. Your question was directed to me, not the publisher of the article.
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 12:47 PM
Apr 9

You were asking for a friend, and I wouldn't want you to disappoint your friend with a non-specific response.

You got a generic answer to your question here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3222798

If you want a more precise answer, I would like to know whether your question relates to rockets being fired from school grounds, a hospital, a mosque or a humanitarian relief areas.

Please elaborate. For your friend's sake.

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
43. How many rocket launchers would you allow Hamas to have?
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 06:37 PM
Apr 9

Seeing as they're a murdering, raping terrorist group, I'm hoping the number is between 0 and.....0.

Anything over than number requires......rapid disassembly.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,419 posts)
45. The correct side according to who?
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 07:41 PM
Apr 9

You?
Or would it be HAMAS or Islamic Jihad?
Or maybe Iran?
You've become very transparent here.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,419 posts)
49. Is that from some poll?
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 08:25 PM
Apr 9

I ask because polls have proven to be highly inaccurate, so, again, I ask, according to who?
You?
HAMAS?
Islamic Jihad?
As I said, you're being very transparent here and you're not even attempting to hide it.
Yep, the masks are completely off now.

NickB79

(19,257 posts)
50. Is history saying Hamas should have rocket launchers then?
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 08:26 PM
Apr 9

I don't want to be on the side that's cool with letting terrorists own and operate rocket launchers.

Igel

(35,323 posts)
52. Victors write the history.
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 10:33 PM
Apr 9

Those against anti-semitism will write one version.

Those allowing or in favor of anti-semitism will write another.

You seem to have decided on the side that's "correct, according to our lord, History."

I'm of a different faith.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,419 posts)
47. Dude or Dudette, quit being coy,
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 07:51 PM
Apr 9

you're not asking for a friend, you're trying your best to deflect or hijack the thread, which isn't cool at all.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,419 posts)
13. Hmmmm, seems to be some defending or deflecting
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 09:04 AM
Apr 9

in an attempt to excuse HAMAS and or Islamic Jihad.
What a surprise.

TeamProg

(6,160 posts)
15. Well, that is a meritless accusation. Please try to keep it together. Since there have been zero reports
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 10:59 AM
Apr 9

of Israeli deaths by Hamas rocket launchers, it makes sense to ask when those rocket launchers were last used.

See how that works?

Happy Hoosier

(7,343 posts)
18. What I see is people so all in on "Israel BAD" that...
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 11:19 AM
Apr 9

... they are trying to reason why Israel should not be targetting military assets that are obviously legitimate targets.

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
19. When did Hamas steal the 60% of aid to the Palestinians,
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 11:24 AM
Apr 9

creating a situation where nearly half of the Palestinians are starving to death? Was that recently of five or six months ago? See how that works?

TeamProg

(6,160 posts)
20. That is not the news I've read anywhere in at DU. What I read about is the difficulty and danger of being killed by the
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 11:41 AM
Apr 9

IDF as being the reason aid is not getting to starving victims of this genocide.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
36. "Since there have been zero reports of Israeli deaths by Hamas rockets..." Really?
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 02:41 PM
Apr 9

Dec 27, 2023 — Israel says some 12000 rockets have been fired from Gaza starting on Oct. 7. They have killed 15 people in Israel.


https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/27/world/middleeast/israel-hamas-gaza-rockets.html

TeamProg

(6,160 posts)
37. Re: Hamas. This is what needs to be focused on.
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 03:06 PM
Apr 9

Re: Hamas. This is what needs to be focused on.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,419 posts)
46. And there you go again, deflecting or hijacking the thread,
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 07:44 PM
Apr 9

which seems to be your go to when anything Israel is reflected in a positive light.

TeamProg

(6,160 posts)
21. I supported Israel until their bombs would NOT STOP FALLING on Palestinian civilians, schools and hospitals. So, sure,
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 11:44 AM
Apr 9

if that makes me a "defender of Hamas" then we can all have a good laugh at the utter ridiculousness of that statement.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
22. What did you support?
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 12:06 PM
Apr 9

Bombs that only hit active Hamas combatants, but only if they weren't in a school or hospital and no civilians were nearby? Munitions aren't that precise, and you know Hamas positioned themselves in schools, in hospitals, in apartment blocks.

How was the IDF to conduct this war and keep your support? Small arms only?

TeamProg

(6,160 posts)
35. Too far back, before the genocide started. Not going to search back that far. You probably see the disgust about what is
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 02:32 PM
Apr 9

happening, it's not just me.

So, you're in full support of Netanyahu, then? Everything is fine for you with this massacre?



Beastly Boy

(9,378 posts)
41. I don't expect you to go back to 1941.
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 04:51 PM
Apr 9

I realize that you couldn't have an opinion on Israel before 1948, let alone before genocide happened.

But there is no reason you couldn't find any of your posts in support of Israel after January 26, 2021.

Unless there are none.

But by all means, do tell me all about who I support and what is fine for me! Because I practically begged you to deflect to just that, right?

Igel

(35,323 posts)
54. I call fallacy. False choice.
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 11:17 PM
Apr 9

One can be pro "Hamas must die" and still not sport a "I < heart > Netanyahu" sticker on one's forehead.

Just as a rep in opposition to Netanyahu, long pre 7/10, said that the Israeli SC was the most powerful SC in any "western" democracy and seriously needed reigning in. She just didn't agree with what Netanyahu wanted--but agreed that "we judges, most appointed by colleagues and comrades, think X reasonable, so just screw the law and precedent and so what we think the law should be." Far worse than anything SCOTUS has done to date. Including Roe. Or Oberlander. And yet we support the Israeli SC because we think it's pro-us. It's pro part of us. On DU, maybe a majority, but among (D) still a minority. And we're suddenly majoritarianist.

That Israeli Knesset member was less partial than so many people I know, (R) and (D). And she was somebody that was reasonable. Netanyahu and the Hasidim are less so.

TeamProg

(6,160 posts)
56. So then, how do these facts fit your choice of options ?
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 01:52 AM
Apr 10

Square peg through a round hole? Kind of like that?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
58. You keep posting that, but the PA & Hamas did the heavy lifting on keeping the power divided
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 02:33 PM
Apr 10

As in each won a local election, never had another one and Hamas actively hunted down the PA in gaza

TeamProg

(6,160 posts)
59. Bibi gave economic benefits to Hamas contolled areas but NOT to the PA areas. So, duh, of course voters are going
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 03:03 PM
Apr 10

to support those who bring home the bread for them.

THAT is what Netanyahu did for Hamas.

I'm done here. Obviously I've struck a nerve.

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
60. "Obviously I've struck a nerve." lol, if you say
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 03:11 PM
Apr 10

You just seem uninformed on the matter.
Hamas & the PA were going to hold on to their power and territory irregardless of what Israel did

The Fatah–Hamas conflict (Arabic: النزاع بين فتح وحماس, romanized: an-Nizāʿ bayna Fataḥ wa-Ḥamās) is an ongoing political and strategic conflict between Fatah and Hamas,[a] the two main Palestinian political parties in the Palestinian territories, leading to the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip in June 2007. The reconciliation process and unification of Hamas and Fatah administrations remains unfinalized and the situation is deemed a frozen conflict.

The Palestinian Independent Commission for Citizens' Rights has found that over 600 Palestinians were killed in the fighting from January 2006 to May 2007.[14] Dozens more were killed or executed in the following years as part of the conflict.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatah%E2%80%93Hamas_conflict

EX500rider

(10,849 posts)
57. " before the genocide started" Genocide..I wonder who I should believe..you, or...
Wed Apr 10, 2024, 02:30 PM
Apr 10
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on Tuesday rebuffed arguments that Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza, saying he’s seen no evidence to suggest it.

TeamProg

(6,160 posts)
38. Re: Hamas. This is what needs to be focused on.
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 03:07 PM
Apr 9

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank — bringing Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group.

The idea was to prevent Abbas — or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government — from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Thus, amid this bid to impair Abbas, Hamas was upgraded from a mere terror group to an organization with which Israel held indirect negotiations via Egypt, and one that was allowed to receive infusions of cash from abroad.

Beastly Boy

(9,378 posts)
42. Not at this point.
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 05:47 PM
Apr 9

What needs to be focused on is your statement that you are attempting to deflect away from because you can't back it up with any evidence.

Once you quit deflecting, feel free to raise any subject you need to focus on in a separate thread.

Igel

(35,323 posts)
53. I read about how that the al-Ahli hospital bombing was Israeli.
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 11:09 PM
Apr 9

Then it wasn't.

It wasn't Israeli.

Then it wasn't something I was reading about.

Why? Because it wasn't Israeli.

I read about how the Battle for As-Shifa II is ongoing. For nearly two weeks. Which is weird--how long should it take for the IDF to assault an undefended hospital from which no defense is mounted? Nearly two weeks?

Oh. Wait. It means non-civilians were defending it. Having regrouped.

"There's no resistance. How are 'battles ongoing?'" I see asked on DU. And two weeks later, the four-month battle in Khan Younis ends and IDF draws down its forces. But wait ... The four-month battle was a non-battle?

No bias in the media. Nope. None at all.

Okay, that's wrong. There are biases in the media. One could call them "silos." If you're silage, in a silo, you only get what's chucked into the silo. So Khan Younis had no on-going battles. As-Shifa wasn't a regrouped Hamas stronghold. Wander on over to the next silo and you get more of the story. Wander to the next silo, more of the story.

9/11 taught us that silos let us get blindsided ... No, that's mis-stated. The proper vocable is "self-blindsided."

Bayard

(22,111 posts)
30. I'm wondering how they ascertained that
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 12:39 PM
Apr 9

Just how do they determine if a body was a non-combatant or Hamas?

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
31. I think they gave everyone a heads-up and it was only the launch sites
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 12:45 PM
Apr 9

that were hit.

But maybe they called Hamas after and checked?

sarisataka

(18,684 posts)
29. Surprised that Hamas stages attacks from humanitarian areas?
Tue Apr 9, 2024, 12:26 PM
Apr 9

Not at all, it is kind of their MO to violate the laws of war then cry foul when Israel strikes them.

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