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brooklynite

(94,581 posts)
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:32 AM Mar 21

Justice Department, states accuse Apple of holding a smartphone monopoly

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Source: Washington Post

The Justice Department and 16 state and district attorneys general accused Apple of breaking federal antitrust law in a sprawling lawsuit unveiled Thursday, plunging the tech giant into another high-stakes showdown over its alleged abuse of power.
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The civil complaint, filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey, alleges the company has illegally wielded a monopoly over the smartphone market by cutting off developers and stifling competitors with punitive restrictions. The lawsuit squarely takes aim at the company’s most popular and lucrative product, the iPhone, which has helped catapult Apple’s valuation to over $2.7 trillion and sell its devices to billions of users.

Instead of competing with rivals by offering more affordable services, federal and state enforcers claim Apple imposed “a series of shapeshifting rules and restrictions” to “extract higher fees, thwart innovation, offer a less secure or degraded user experience, and throttle competitive alternatives.”

Through that conduct, the Justice Department and states allege in the complaint, Apple “built and reinforced the moat around its smartphone monopoly.” Enforcers and legislators have long expressed concern that by rigidly curating users’ experiences on the iPhone and its other gadgets, Apple has excluded rivals from its ecosystem — giving the company an unfair leg up on competitors.



Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/03/21/apple-doj-antitrust-lawsuit-smartphone/
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Justice Department, states accuse Apple of holding a smartphone monopoly (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 21 OP
Hunter and Tim Apple WA-03 Democrat Mar 21 #1
All Apple two things to really needs to do imo is open up the options cstanleytech Mar 21 #2
They lose security then and the side apps will take your data. Ellipsis Mar 21 #7
Their current security isn't bulletproof as what gives it that illusion is cstanleytech Mar 21 #11
They have about 20,000 people involved in that process. That's why Apple takes its 30%. Ellipsis Mar 21 #13
I believe that I read that they have a little over 70% and that it's still increasing so addressing the problem now with cstanleytech Mar 21 #17
Yep... IthinkThereforeIAM Mar 21 #12
I was watching Merrick Garland on MSNBC LiberalFighter Mar 21 #3
This goes back many years. SarahD Mar 21 #4
The crux of the issue is Apple takes 30% for an app to be on the App Store and the Apps are vetted. Ellipsis Mar 21 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalFighter Mar 21 #5
The Cult Of Apple ItsjustMe Mar 21 #6
YMMV - Think Different. GoneOffShore Mar 21 #19
About time Apple gets called on their MOMFUDSKI Mar 21 #8
They have only held that monopoly since Apple came out. Autumn Mar 21 #9
This goes nowhere JustAnotherGen Mar 21 #14
yep azureblue Mar 21 #15
Windows jealousy? I doubt it as Microsofts attempt to produce their own OS for phones crashed and burned. cstanleytech Mar 21 #18
Link to DOJ court filing ificandream Mar 21 #16
AFTER a review by forun hosts LOCKING Omaha Steve Mar 21 #20

WA-03 Democrat

(3,050 posts)
1. Hunter and Tim Apple
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:37 AM
Mar 21

Go get them DOJ!

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
2. All Apple two things to really needs to do imo is open up the options
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:43 AM
Mar 21

for people to install apps from alternative app stores. Followed by improving support for alternative payment methods for people using their iPhones.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
7. They lose security then and the side apps will take your data.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:48 AM
Mar 21

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
11. Their current security isn't bulletproof as what gives it that illusion is
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:54 AM
Mar 21

that they have the ability to do security patches for the majority of their phones. Android phones however are largely dependent on whoever made their phones and those delays can run months behind. That's assuming of course that their phone hasn't been abandoned for such OS upgrades after 1 or 2 version like most Android manufacturers tend to do.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
13. They have about 20,000 people involved in that process. That's why Apple takes its 30%.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 12:00 PM
Mar 21

People cost money. You don't have to make an app for the iPhone. As you say there are other manufactures. While Apple has a generous portion of the marketshare, they are not the majority.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
17. I believe that I read that they have a little over 70% and that it's still increasing so addressing the problem now with
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 05:37 PM
Mar 21

some simple things as the two I mentioned can help mitigate it before it becomes worse.

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
12. Yep...
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:58 AM
Mar 21

Last edited Thu Mar 21, 2024, 12:45 PM - Edit history (1)

... my iPhone is my phone, think of the old landline phones. No security issues, just answer it when it rings or check your answering machine. I do not use my iPhone for games or FB, it is not a toy. I do not TikTok or Snapchat or Twixter on it, either.

And I finally had to buy an iPhone SE 3 last week. My iPhone 6 still works and looks like new, but I needed iOS 15 or higher. Why? SECURITY... the app for my new Cochlear sound processor needed it, my Gas Buddy app, too. And it only added $17.83 to my monthly T-Mobile unlimited data bill. I add that because many will say, "Apple is over priced". And here I am, worry free.

PS: My aunt(RIP Char) had an android cellphone and it was always getting infected, she would click on emails and/or FB messages and she was too ill to go with me to the Verizon store and get things cleared up.

LiberalFighter

(50,938 posts)
3. I was watching Merrick Garland on MSNBC
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:43 AM
Mar 21

Was pissed off when they cut off after he finished. Didnt get to hear what the others had to say.

SarahD

(1,184 posts)
4. This goes back many years.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:44 AM
Mar 21

I can remember in the 1980s techies were angry at Apple because they built their computers in a way that didn't allow independent developers to build anything that would work with Apple computers.

Ellipsis

(9,124 posts)
10. The crux of the issue is Apple takes 30% for an app to be on the App Store and the Apps are vetted.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:50 AM
Mar 21

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

ItsjustMe

(11,230 posts)
6. The Cult Of Apple
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:45 AM
Mar 21


GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
19. YMMV - Think Different.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 06:38 PM
Mar 21

MOMFUDSKI

(5,546 posts)
8. About time Apple gets called on their
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:49 AM
Mar 21

monopoly. Proceed on

Autumn

(45,095 posts)
9. They have only held that monopoly since Apple came out.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:49 AM
Mar 21

Oh well better late than never.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
14. This goes nowhere
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 12:49 PM
Mar 21

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
15. yep
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 03:50 PM
Mar 21

It's simply because Apple sets the standards for apps that run on OSX and iOS, and security, unlike Windows, is of primary importance. Simple proof is the number of security apps for Windows vs the number of OSX / iOS. If there wasn't a need for them, they would not be written and sold.
This reeks of Windows jealousy.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
18. Windows jealousy? I doubt it as Microsofts attempt to produce their own OS for phones crashed and burned.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 05:44 PM
Mar 21

Omaha Steve

(99,649 posts)
20. AFTER a review by forun hosts LOCKING
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 07:32 PM
Mar 21

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