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BumRushDaShow

(129,059 posts)
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 08:48 AM Mar 21

Donald Trump to make $3bn if shareholders back plan to float Trump Media

Source: The Guardian

Thu 21 Mar 2024 08.19 EDT


Donald Trump’s wealth is set to increase by more than $3bn (£2.35bn) if a shareholder vote on Friday paves the way for the float of his Trump Media business. The former US president is preparing to list Trump Media & Technology Group, which operates the Truth Social tech platform, via a merger with a special purpose acquisition company, or Spac.

The Spac, called Digital World Acquisition, has scheduled a vote on the merger with Trump Media for Friday. However, there are complications around the planned vote after Digital World sued sponsor ARC Global Investments, which is trying to delay the deal, to back the merger.

If the merger goes ahead and Trump Media goes public as soon as next week, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee would not be able to cash in immediately, however. Trump would need a waiver to circumvent a provision that blocks major shareholders from selling stock for six months.

Trump’s finances are under pressure as he prepares to contest the US presidency with incumbent Joe Biden for a second time. Last month Trump was formally ordered by a New York judge to pay $454m following a civil fraud case, in which the former president was found to have manipulated the value of his properties to obtain advantageous loan and insurance rates.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/21/donald-trump-wealth-to-rise-by-more-than-3bn-if-shareholders-back-plan

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Donald Trump to make $3bn if shareholders back plan to float Trump Media (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 21 OP
Clever way to get foreign dirty money..... ashredux Mar 21 #1
Trump knows exactly who the backers are. Irish_Dem Mar 21 #3
Another Trump business, what could go wrong investors? pwb Mar 21 #2
Who are the financial backers? Hard to believe legitimate businesses tulipsandroses Mar 21 #4
The ONLY benefit is Trump's. Everyone else can go to hell. Eyeball_Kid Mar 21 #5
So, paying to get influence in the next Administration. Shouldn't this be a national security... FailureToCommunicate Mar 21 #6
With four lawsuits regarding the company he won't get his hands on any of that money any time soon. Novara Mar 21 #7
Wish i understood more about TFG's Monitor. bluestarone Mar 21 #8
Barbara Jones, retired federal judge Brother Buzz Mar 21 #17
That's good to know TY bluestarone Mar 21 #18
She's eminently qualified and WAY ahead of the curve Brother Buzz Mar 21 #19
Vanity Fair has a good article on meme stocks and some of the problems in using this stock for a bond LetMyPeopleVote Mar 21 #9
I saw a couple articles about Chubb early this morning BumRushDaShow Mar 21 #10
Meme stocks are amusing and are no part of the corporate world where I work LetMyPeopleVote Mar 21 #11
I would bet that this Spac would lead back to Putin, Bayard Mar 21 #12
Actually it appears that the entity that started this entity has Chinese connections LetMyPeopleVote Mar 21 #14
Have you seen the movie yet ? ( Dumb Money ) Pluvious Mar 21 #13
SPACS and meme stocks rely on the greater fool theory LetMyPeopleVote Mar 21 #15
Did you mean to reply to someone else ? Pluvious Mar 21 #16

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
4. Who are the financial backers? Hard to believe legitimate businesses
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 09:15 AM
Mar 21

Want to be a part of this. Even if you don’t care that he’s a racist wannabe dictator, I doubt this will be profitable if he loses. I doubt it will be profitable period.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
5. The ONLY benefit is Trump's. Everyone else can go to hell.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 09:38 AM
Mar 21

Why the "investors" don't recognize this con is beyond reason. Trump is a total bad faith negotiator. He will stiff everybody and anybody. Anything associated with Trump is a bust. No wonder there is resistance to making this deal.

Novara

(5,842 posts)
7. With four lawsuits regarding the company he won't get his hands on any of that money any time soon.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 10:24 AM
Mar 21

Lawsuits will tie this up for a while. Also, usually with mergers, there's a 6-month hold on selling shares once the deal is done. So he won't be able to liquidate his shares, unless this is waived, even without lawsuits locking up everything. And why in hell would they waive it when they know damn well he's going to strip the company for parts? Also? If they waive it and he immediately sells, it could affect the stock value, which is already at a low.

Given the lawsuits (something about Felonious Fuckface making a power grab), I don't know why anyone would take the risk to merge with anything he touches. Everything he touches, dies.

bluestarone

(16,959 posts)
8. Wish i understood more about TFG's Monitor.
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 10:58 AM
Mar 21

The person assigned to monitor TFG's accounts. Who is this person, and how many people are helping this monitor? Will we ever know?

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
17. Barbara Jones, retired federal judge
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 04:16 PM
Mar 21

She's been doing the task for quite some time, but just got assigned for an official three year term.

I assume she has a staff, and I suspect she has a million willing experts just a telephone call away too.

Brother Buzz

(36,440 posts)
19. She's eminently qualified and WAY ahead of the curve
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 05:38 PM
Mar 21

I'm surprised the orange anus hasn't attacked her yet

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,291 posts)
9. Vanity Fair has a good article on meme stocks and some of the problems in using this stock for a bond
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:23 AM
Mar 21

I was amused to see that DWAC/Trump Media is classified as a meme stock where the value is due to personality and not due to the real value of issuer of the meme stock. This article is a good discussion of the meme nature of DWAC/TMT.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/donald-trump-truth-social-media-merger

Trump’s financial future now hinges on some of the strangest fads in corporate finance—meme stocks, SPAC deals, and cult-of-personality investing. If Trump can find a way to act fast, it might just be the bailout he desperately needs.

Truth Social is a bad imitation of Twitter, where Trump was an unavoidable presence long before he ran for president. It’s chock full of stale red-pilled memes, MAGA conspiracy theories, and of course, Trump. That’s the main draw. Truth Social is the only place the former president now regularly posts his unfettered thoughts......

DWAC is best thought of as a meme stock. You may remember the meme stock fad from when retail investors on Reddit successfully coordinated a short squeeze with GameStop stock, before glomming onto a series of other millennial nostalgia brands like AMC Entertainment, BlackBerry, and Bed Bath & Beyond. Meme stocks are often publicly traded companies that attract an inordinate percentage of individual investors and their stock performance fluctuates in a way that’s significantly divorced from the reality of their underlying business. Combine those two trends and you’ll start to see why Trump’s media company could be valued at roughly $9 billion if it merges with DWAC.

Jay Ritter, a finance professor at the University of Florida, says meme stocks often depend on the “greater fool theory of investing,” meaning rational investors might buy in expecting the stock price to rise and betting that they can sell their shares to a greater fool willing to buy them at a higher price. In this case, however, Ritter speculates there is an inordinate number of individual retail investors compared to institutional investors, such as hedge funds, that normally own SPAC shares prior to a merger. “Here you’ve got ideology involved [too]—as far as I can tell, the vast majority of DWAC investors are Trump political investors, and they’re to some degree putting their money where their mouth is… My suspicion is most of them have bought the stock as a show of political support.” In this way, Trump is conducting yet another public fundraising from his supporters—this time through the public markets.

TFG is locked up and cannot sell or pledge this stock for six months following the merger. Even if TFG was able to pledge the stock the stock is so volatile that a bank would be crazy to take this stock as collateral.
The problem for Trump here is that when he tries to sell stock, it very well may tank the whole enterprise. (He’s technically restricted from selling stock for six months after the deal closes, but could get a waiver from the board of directors.) “The faster he sells and the more he sells the quicker the stock price will decline,” Ritter said. Another major problem would be if the deal to go public is stalled by a lawsuit—such as a recent one brought against Trump Media from embittered cofounders, who claim their share in the company was diluted by Trump and his allies.

Trump might be able to borrow money with his stock as collateral as a way to gain access to money more quickly, but he would have to either get an exemption from the post-merger company or just move ahead without one and hope that the board lets it slide, Ohlrogge said, since the terms of the agreement with DWAC don’t allow it. “If there were a bank that did take such a deal [allowing Trump to use his stock as collateral], it would raise serious concerns that the bank is doing it for reasons other than a belief it is a profitable lending opportunity,” he said. “Namely, it would raise concerns that the bank is doing it in order to win influence with someone who might become US president. If that bank were affiliated directly or indirectly with a foreign government, it would be even more concerning still.

Any bank that made such risky loan would be subject to attack. Lawrence O'Donnell commented on Chubb's bond (which appears to be secured by cash) and after such criticism, Chubb backed out




This will be fun to watch

BumRushDaShow

(129,059 posts)
10. I saw a couple articles about Chubb early this morning
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:27 AM
Mar 21

and how they backed away from the "big one" (which I figured would happen). The first was a gratis but the 2nd wasn't gonna happen!

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,291 posts)
11. Meme stocks are amusing and are no part of the corporate world where I work
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:28 AM
Mar 21

I deal in the real world with real companies who go public with real registration statements and underwriters. I was always amused by SPAC deals and I was not surprised to see that many of these deals went bust because there was no value to the stock. The son of a client looked at the Gamestop silliness and hopefully got out before that stock fell.

Bloomberg has an amusing article on DWAC including the fact that DWAC has had trouble turning out the vote for stockholder meetings due to the fact that there are no or few institutional stockholders who can be counted to show up at the stockholder meeting. I remember DWAC had to reschedule and extend a number of stockholder voters due to a lack of quorum in the votes to keep the company alive during SEC review. The article discusses the possibility of TFG using his stock for a loan.



https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-03-19/banks-can-get-emissions-off-the-books

The shareholder vote is this Friday; the bond is due on Monday. Pretty tight! There are problems. For one thing, the shareholders have to vote to approve the deal. They obviously should do that: DWAC’s stock closed yesterday at $35.575 per share in anticipation of the deal; if the deal fails, shareholders will get back roughly $10.87 per share. [8] They want the deal. But in the past, DWAC has failed to get shareholder approval for obviously good things because its heavily retail shareholder base doesn’t vote that much. I would be surprised if that happened on the merger vote, but it’s not impossible.

Then, the deal has to close right after the vote. At that point, Trump will personally have shares worth about $2.8 billion. [9]

Also, Trump’s shares are subject to a lockup agreement, so he’s not allowed to “lend, offer, pledge, hypothecate, encumber, donate, assign, sell, contract to sell … or otherwise transfer or dispose of” his shares for six months, which presumably covers using them as collateral for a loan (or appeals bond). But the agreement is between Trump and DWAC, and DWAC could just waive it. It is not best practices or anything, as a capital markets matter, to waive the lockup an hour after the merger, but I think it is possible. Ordinarily you don’t do it because shareholders will be mad about additional shares flooding the market, but (1) if he just pledges his shares to a bank, they won’t flood the market, and (2) the shareholders are presumably Trump fans and will be happy to help him fund his legal bills. Probably the stock would go up if they gave him a limited waiver for this.

The other problem is, if you were a bank, would you lend money against those shares? Maybe? Bloomberg’s Bailey Lipschultz reported last month:

“He needs the money but he can’t sell too much at once without risking tanking the stock,” said Usha Rodrigues, a professor at the University of Georgia School of Law. “Once the lockup is expired, he could use the shares as collateral for loans in order to access cash without selling the shares.”

And it’s unlikely a bank would lend him a large sum of money against the locked-up shares, according to industry watchers like University of Florida finance professor Jay Ritter.


I guess I’m a little more optimistic than that, though I see his point. The shares are worth billions of dollars at present market value, but TMTG has never actually made money, [10] and a bank that lends money against a locked-up meme stock is making a risky bet that the shares will still be valuable in six months. A lot can happen in six months! Still, at current prices, that’s a lot of collateral. It’s not an insane bet. You’d want recourse.

I will be surprised to see a bank making a loan on this stock. If AG James forecloses on this stock, then TFG will no longer be a stockholder and there will be no value to this stock.

This will be fun to watch.

Bayard

(22,075 posts)
12. I would bet that this Spac would lead back to Putin,
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 11:55 AM
Mar 21

But I suspect Putin is done with trump as a losing proposition these days. More likely its the Saudis.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,291 posts)
15. SPACS and meme stocks rely on the greater fool theory
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 02:24 PM
Mar 21

You only invest in one of these companies if think that there is a greater fool out there to buy you out. The trouble is if you are the last one to buy at the high price. A number of SPAC companies have failed because these companies were not strong businesses who should be public companies

Pluvious

(4,311 posts)
16. Did you mean to reply to someone else ?
Thu Mar 21, 2024, 04:07 PM
Mar 21

( I was asking about your opinion on the movie about the GameStonk story )

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