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BumRushDaShow

(129,109 posts)
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 11:45 AM Mar 14

Jack Smith shreds Stephen Miller legal group's complaint about NARA criminal referral

Source: Law & Crime

Mar 14th, 2024, 10:48 am


Ahead of Thursday morning’s much anticipated motion hearing on former President Donald Trump’s bids to dismiss his Espionage Act indictment on grounds of unconstitutional vagueness and the Presidential Records Act (PRA), special counsel Jack Smith responded to America First Legal Foundation’s (AFL) “untenable theory” that the National Archives’ (NARA) criminal referral violated the law.

AFL, a legal group headed by former Trump White House senior advisor Stephen Miller, made an entrance into the case as amicus curiae — a friend of the court — with arguments supporting the Trump defense’s attempt to get the Mar-a-Lago willful retention of national defense information and obstruction case tossed under the PRA.

AFL claimed to have “uncovered” proof that NARA committed an “unlawful abuse of executive authority” through its criminal referral to the Department of Justice, a violation of the Administrative Procedure Act that the group submitted should be enough to dismiss the indictment.

Smith previously attacked the claims of an improper criminal referral as “fundamentally wrong” because even even if Trump had a valid PRA argument, that didn’t give him “license” to obstruct a grand jury probe nor grant him a “free pass” for the same “based on his legal claim that those entities lacked authority to investigate.”

Read more: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/jack-smith-shreds-stephen-miller-legal-groups-complaint-about-nara-criminal-referral-with-absurd-example-of-how-untenable-theory-would-apply-in-real-world/



Full headline: Jack Smith shreds Stephen Miller legal group’s complaint about NARA criminal referral with absurd example of how ‘untenable theory’ would apply in real world

Link to Smith filing (PDF) - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653/gov.uscourts.flsd.648653.400.0.pdf

The OP article is good as it includes an excerpt of Smith's argument that basically highlights what I have been yelling about the past couple years - the "regulatory agencies" cannot unilaterally go to court on their own - they use DOJ for that, and THAT is what NARA did here for this classified documents (and other items that were illegally removed under their purview) case AFTER they exhausted all of their normal procedures for retrieving covered (non-personal) items/documents. When NARA realized that they were getting the run-around, they FINALLY, after A YEAR referred the problem to DOJ to take court-approved actions (subpoenas, warrants for search and seizure, etc).
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Jack Smith shreds Stephen Miller legal group's complaint about NARA criminal referral (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 14 OP
I love a good Stephen Miller shredding. Having Jack Smith deliver it is truffles on top. marble falls Mar 14 #1
I would recommend using a wood chipper... lonely bird Mar 14 #11
Miller, for sure, is part of the large chaotic noise created around tfg. And he is a clear-cut Nazi first and foremost. usaf-vet Mar 14 #13
I'm certain he has dirty hands. In fact, I doubt he'd hesitate to break serious laws for Mango Jebus. marble falls Mar 14 #15
Who is surprised by this? LetMyPeopleVote Mar 14 #2
I would like a fish line shoved up Miller's ass and out of his mouth. LiberalFighter Mar 14 #3
I can see a clear mental image. pandr32 Mar 14 #4
Treble hook.... SergeStorms Mar 14 #5
I abhor such suggested violence - but gave it a big Rec. For Miller, it's deserved. erronis Mar 14 #7
Unfortunately Cannon will side with Stephen Miller and Trump Owens Mar 14 #6
I love the smell of shredded Stephen Miller in the morning Seinan Sensei Mar 14 #8
Thank you, Jack and team. republianmushroom Mar 14 #9
Don't shred Nosferatu. Kid Berwyn Mar 14 #10
Loose Cannon rules in favor of the SlobFather on this Smith goes straight to the 11th circuit (?) to NoMoreRepugs Mar 14 #12
If he can.........You know, laws really don't work against powerful lawlessness. jaxexpat Mar 14 #14
Cannon is going to have a hearing for every cockamamie thing that can slow the process down prodigitalson Mar 14 #16
This 'vagueness' argument is an old one NanaCat Mar 15 #17

usaf-vet

(6,189 posts)
13. Miller, for sure, is part of the large chaotic noise created around tfg. And he is a clear-cut Nazi first and foremost.
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 02:36 PM
Mar 14

Hopefully, he will also get to spend time in federal prison someday.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,321 posts)
2. Who is surprised by this?
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 12:25 PM
Mar 14

Stephen Miller is not a lawyer and his group is full of asshole lawyers who need to be disbarred

erronis

(15,303 posts)
7. I abhor such suggested violence - but gave it a big Rec. For Miller, it's deserved.
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 02:07 PM
Mar 14

From what I remember even his family hates him. Like lots of those little repuglicon nazis.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,435 posts)
12. Loose Cannon rules in favor of the SlobFather on this Smith goes straight to the 11th circuit (?) to
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 02:33 PM
Mar 14

have her replaced IMO.

prodigitalson

(2,425 posts)
16. Cannon is going to have a hearing for every cockamamie thing that can slow the process down
Thu Mar 14, 2024, 06:45 PM
Mar 14

and then rule against Trump so she doesn't get thrown off the case

NanaCat

(1,167 posts)
17. This 'vagueness' argument is an old one
Fri Mar 15, 2024, 07:19 AM
Mar 15

I know that someone back in the 40s or 50s already tried to make this very argument about vagueness in the Espionage Act's terminology, and the USSC ruled that the Act wasn't vague at all. Grrr. I read about this a long time ago. What was it called?

Just looked it up. Gorin v US (1941)

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/312/19/

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