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BumRushDaShow

(129,413 posts)
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 08:31 PM Mar 4

Congress Set To Roll Back Extra Safety Rule In Teen Trucking Program

Source: Huff Post

Mar 4, 2024, 03:02 PM EST


WASHINGTON ― Congress looks poised to undo a safety requirement that the trucking industry says has held back participation in a program for younger drivers. Lawmakers unveiled a bipartisan budget bill on Sunday that would fund certain federal agencies through the end of the fiscal year ― with a rider blocking the Department of Transportation from requiring freight carriers to point cameras at apprentice truck drivers.

Federal law requires long-haul truckers to be at least 21 years old, but Congress told the department to let truck companies try out drivers ages 18 to 20 as part of a pilot program. The Safe Driver Apprenticeship Program was supposed to help the trucking industry with its hiring woes, bringing in thousands of eager young drivers, but only a few dozen apprentices have signed up, according to the latest data.

The bipartisan infrastructure law required participating freighters to have modern safety technology on their trucks, such as collision mitigation systems, and the Transportation Department added an extra requirement for inward-facing cameras. The American Trucking Associations, an industry trade group, blamed the cameras for the low participation in the apprenticeship program.

“These additional mandates have stifled program participation, limiting the utility of data that Congress ordered be collected on drivers in this age cohort,” ATA’s Nathan Mehrens said in an emailed statement.

Mehrens said Congress intended the pilot program to be “a pathway for younger drivers to enter the industry as a first career choice.”

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/safe-driver-apprenticeship-program_n_65e5f473e4b0d2a2475a3fe9

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Congress Set To Roll Back Extra Safety Rule In Teen Trucking Program (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 4 OP
No driving while texting or TikToking. NBachers Mar 4 #1
The school bus driver shortage is the real crisis. barbaraann Mar 4 #2
I know they're always looking for school bus drivers at the local schools which are fairly affluent Rhiannon12866 Mar 5 #6
I know one person who drives a school bus here. barbaraann Mar 5 #8
Seems an easy problem to solve with good enough wages PoliWrangler Mar 4 #3
If you have a problem with a camera pointed in your direction, Dem2theMax Mar 4 #4
The myth of a "driver shortage" moniss Mar 5 #5
Okay, so tell me... jmowreader Mar 5 #7

barbaraann

(9,162 posts)
2. The school bus driver shortage is the real crisis.
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 08:49 PM
Mar 4

School Bus Driver Shortage Persists
New research shows that the shortage remains severe across the country.

The problem remains severe across the country. According to research by the Economic Policy Institute, school bus driver employment continues to be far below pre-pandemic levels. There were approximately 192,400 bus drivers working in K–12 schools in September 2023, down 15.1% from September 2019.

School bus drivers remain a vital part of the education system. Roughly half of school children rely on bus services to get to school. Interrupted services and instability can disrupt learning time and contribute to absenteeism, EPI reported.

It’s particularly challenging for children with disabilities, who sometimes travel far distances for specialized education.
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https://www.nea.org/nea-today/all-news-articles/school-bus-driver-shortage-persists

Rhiannon12866

(205,927 posts)
6. I know they're always looking for school bus drivers at the local schools which are fairly affluent
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 06:29 AM
Mar 5

And I do know a retired man who drives the disabled students. I spent the year I got out of college working with the disabled kids - those in the class I was assigned were 2-6 years old and I loved them.

barbaraann

(9,162 posts)
8. I know one person who drives a school bus here.
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 11:48 AM
Mar 5

He loves the children (even the teenagers!) and they love him back. Thank you for your work with disabled kids!

PoliWrangler

(139 posts)
3. Seems an easy problem to solve with good enough wages
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 10:00 PM
Mar 4

Seems an easy problem to solve with good enough wages. If people aren't flocking to the job-makers jobs, perhaps the returns aren't worth the toil.

Dem2theMax

(9,653 posts)
4. If you have a problem with a camera pointed in your direction,
Mon Mar 4, 2024, 11:04 PM
Mar 4

while you are driving something that weighs tons, you shouldn't have that job.

moniss

(4,274 posts)
5. The myth of a "driver shortage"
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 12:00 AM
Mar 5

has been used for decades now to continue to bring in more marginal drivers at lower pay. Historically in the trucking industry most non-union drivers are paid on a per mile basis on a scale that goes up based on length of service. It has been typical of companies to take their lowest paid drivers and give them the most miles and then when they start to move up the scale a little their miles get cut. Once you hit a certain point you find you are getting less and less income per week. It's called "starving you out". They want you to quit so they can assign that truck to a new bottom of the pay scale driver. That is just one example of the crookedness in the trucking industry generally. That is not to say there aren't OK companies. But it's the exception not the rule. Most of the industry has a driver turnover percentage that is staggering.

It is very common in over the road trucking for companies to take the new people they hire and lie to them about the loads, how much they'll get home etc. I've seen so much in my years in the industry. I've seen big major carriers promise people they'll be home every two weeks for a 3 day break and then keep them dispatched and running all over the country for months. When the "rookie" complains or questions why what he was told isn't happening they lie to him and tell him things like "it's just how freight is now", "there aren't any loads going by your house right now", "keep running this load and next week we have a load going right to your house". Of course the promised load was nothing but a lie. So maybe after a few months someone wises up about being screwed around and they quit. Now they might be faced with paying back training program fees etc.

Then there are the companies who always seem to make a "mistake" on your check and you didn't get paid for all of your miles and any other miscellaneous pay items. If you've been busy your itemized "stub" showing your loads, miles, dates, pay etc. can be pages long and laid out in a bizarre fashion. So many guys would just cash the check. Some of us, the company had over 600 drivers, would take the time to check and lo and behold every single pay period dozens and dozens of us were always short about 10% or so. Never a mistake in our favor. Always the "mistake" in the company's favor.

To put it mildly the trucking industry is filled with rampant dishonesty and abuse of drivers. So when they do get drivers they screw them around and lose them and they go on to the next. As I said not all but it is so prevalent that it is common for wise drivers to record their phone calls with the company so that when they later try to tell you a lie or deny they said something you have it on the record. Be aware that pushing back on their garbage in the industry will get you "starved out" and blackballed. I've seen it done many times. You might say I could write a book but a professor at a university in Michigan already did a few years back. It's called "Sweatshops on Wheels" and pretty well sums up much of what goes on.

The one that hit me the most was about 30 years ago when I worked for one large carrier who is now even larger. They had a driver whose young son had a serious chronic medical condition. He and his wife finally got an appointment with the specialist they needed. Of course the driver wanted to be sure to be home to take his wife and son to the appointment. The company reassured him over and over they would have him home all through the weeks leading up to the appointment. Even a few days before the appointment he reminded the dispatcher and they reassured him again. So the day before the appointment he delivered his load in the large metro area that was about 150 miles from the home terminal for the company and where the driver lived. So he called and told the dispatcher he was empty and seeing if they had a load they wanted him to bring back or else he would just come back empty. You already know where this is going. They told him they had a load going to Texas and he had been assigned to it. He began to argue and then the dispatcher switched him to management and they told him that if he refused the load he would be fired. They knew they had him because if he was fired the health insurance would go to COBRA and they knew he would never afford it. They used his sick son against him. There's driver's I've known who needed to get home because kids were acting up really bad, wives were leaving because they couldn't take their husbands being gone etc. A few companies had a heart. Most didn't.

Most people don't know that many of these big distribution centers and things out East won't even let a driver use the bathroom. So many of us go independent just so we get some of the control back and even then being cheated and lied to is an ongoing fight. "Quick run 200 miles because the load is hot and it'll load right away when you get there." Then you get there and the shipper says "No we told them it wouldn't be ready until tomorrow." Every day, lies as long as your arm. Then they wonder why they lose drivers or can't attract people to the industry.

jmowreader

(50,562 posts)
7. Okay, so tell me...
Tue Mar 5, 2024, 08:36 AM
Mar 5

If I was 18 years old and wanted to get into trucking, why should I sign up for one of these "apprenticeship" programs and have FMCSA crawl all over my ass for three years when I can sign on with the local Coca-Cola distributor and run intrastate until I'm old enough to cross the state line in an 18-wheeler?

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