Former Florida GOP leaders say voter suppression was reason they pushed new election l
Source: Palm Beach Post
A new Florida law that contributed to long voter lines and caused some to abandon voting altogether was intentionally designed by Florida GOP staff and consultants to inhibit Democratic voters, former GOP officials and current GOP consultants have told The Palm Beach Post.
Republican leaders said in proposing the law that it was meant to save money and fight voter fraud. But a former GOP chairman and former Gov. Charlie Crist, both of whom have been ousted from the party, now say that fraud concerns were advanced only as subterfuge for the laws main purpose: GOP victory.
Former Republican Party of Florida Chairman Jim Greer says he attended various meetings, beginning in 2009, at which party staffers and consultants pushed for reductions in early voting days and hours.
The Republican Party, the strategists, the consultants, they firmly believe that early voting is bad for Republican Party candidates, Greer told The Post. Its done for one reason and one reason only.
Weve got to cut down on early voting because early voting is not good for us, Greer said he was told by those staffers and consultants.
Read more: http://m.palmbeachpost.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/early-voting-curbs-called-power-play/nTFDy/
New election laws, that should say.
As if any thinking person didn't know.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)I suspect he got between 43-45% of the vote with about 2-4% of the vote siphoned off by GOP shenighans.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...out of Florida and Ohio, everyone will be amazed at the true electoral demographics, as opposed to what is presented as current electoral demographical information.
Melissa G
(10,170 posts)I suspect Texas has already turned significantly away from the GOP in a lot more urban areas, but we will never know with machine cast/counted votes.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)Even the lowest level two-bit criminal knows you offer information on higher ups in return for immunity.
We'll have to wait and see how that goes.
AAO
(3,300 posts)liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)And save the country that money.
AAO
(3,300 posts)liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)RKP5637
(67,111 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)mac56
(17,572 posts)and they know it.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)"Win if you can, lose if you must, but always cheat!"
lunatica
(53,410 posts)So next time they're doubling down by God!
Never let it be said the Republicans don't learn from their mistakes.
If it didn't work you just aren't trying hard enough.
RKP5637
(67,111 posts)Americans really want, a dystopia! ... with lots and lots of austerity. And get rid of that damn democracy and voting crap. We want none to vote, we know what's best for you, we'll decide for you.
stubtoe
(1,862 posts)Ganja Ninja
(15,953 posts)blacks from voting.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 26, 2012, 02:05 PM - Edit history (1)
Voting Rights Act: Why many Southern states are glad of Supreme Court caseAfter minorities played a big role in reelecting President Obama, the US Supreme Court says it will take up the 1965 Voting Rights Act and the issue of federal oversight over voting in mostly Southern jurisdictions...
Many legal experts believe thats the essential point before the high court in a case out of Shelby County, Alabama, in which local officials, backed by a bevy of Southern states, will argue that Congress went too far when it reauthorized the Voting Rights Act (VRA) in 2006, and that federal oversight of polling stations and election rules primarily in the former Confederacy is too broad and thus, in some cases, itself discriminatory...
Those who want to put voting affairs back into the exclusive hands of state and local election officials cite President Obama's reelection on Tuesday as a reason to rethink the need for federal oversight of jurisdictions that, 40 or 50 years ago, had engaged in voting discrimination...
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Justice/2012/1110/Voting-Rights-Act-Why-many-Southern-states-are-glad-of-Supreme-Court-case
These characters are still trying to govern by the Confederate philosophy which opposed the Founding Fathers' ideals for full equality being granted as part of Natural Law and favored by Providence. The Civil War was never about states' rights, but racial discrimination:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=263631
TPaine7
(4,286 posts)right side, for example, while the the author of the Declaration of Independence--Thomas Jefferson--and others were on the side of slavery. (Jefferson making pious statements to the contrary notwithstanding; I'm talking about what he did, not what he said.)
The real credit belongs to the Framers of the 14th Amendment; they were for full equality, at least as a matter of law.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Those who are suppressing the vote are not on the side of those that opposed slavery. The Voting Rights Act should be kept in place with as much force as possible. The ststes opposing have learned nothing from the 14th Amendment, and don't support what it did. I won't quibble about your screen name who is my favorite person of the era, and the view of the others. The link to the VP of the Confederacy about their philosophy, explained going back to the Founders that the South opposed racial equality which many consider the intent behind the Constitution, as a living document, regardless of the events of the time. The people who are against voters and equality should be treated as going against the government and values of the USA. No excuses. EOM.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)America thanks you, former Republican Kool-aid guzzlers, for blowing the whistle on the corruption that infests the Republican party.
Dubster
(427 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)big surprise. something like this could never happen in amerikkka.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)a federal crime.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)has a civil rights division.
Deprivation of voting rights, conspiracy to deprive citizens of their voting rights, violations of the 14th and 15th Amendments to the US Constitution, violation of the Voting Rights Act. A smart prosecutor could come up with a veritable laundry list of crimes and civil offenses.
An extended tour in the feds' Big House is warranted for everyone responsible for this, and anyplace it was tried, not just Florida.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Throw the books at them, all the law books there are!
AAO
(3,300 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,745 posts)because schools are going on a moratorium for purchasing because of the uncertainty of the economy. This sounds very fishy coming in on the heels of the presidential election.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)2012 is the best example of this. The Rs generally have become as toxic as Bush was. They foment their own irrelevance by these actions.
samsingh
(17,599 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)A generation is growing up knowing this fact.
dragonlady
(3,577 posts)Republican Alberta Darling (who does not live up to her name) was interviewed on television and was asked whether Romney would have won Wisconsin if their photo ID law had been effect. She said she is sure he would have won. Some on our side have taken that to mean that she believes there were at least 200,000 instances of voter fraud (obviously impossible). It's a lot simpler than that. She is just dumb enough to come out and say that the ID requirement would have suppressed Democratic votes enough to give Romney the win. (Scott Walker recently said in a speech that they want to try to pass a new voter ID law, one that will be found constitutional this time around. They have nothing else going for them.)
LiberalFighter
(50,968 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)calimary
(81,340 posts)A big fat "No-DUH" on that one.
BlueManFan
(256 posts)to hear that the same forward looking, intelligent electorate that chose the convicted medical fraudster Skeletor as governor would be the targets of such electoral subterfuge.
sakabatou
(42,160 posts)WillyT
(72,631 posts)DemoTex
(25,399 posts)The GOP: the "self-licking ice cream cone."
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Until I read this part:
Jim Greer has been accused of criminal acts against this organization and anything he says has to be considered in that light, says Brian Burgess, Florida GOP spokesman since September.
But Greers statements about the motivations for the partys legislative efforts, implemented by a GOP-majority House and Senate in Tallahassee in 2011, are backed by Crist also now on the outs with the party and two veteran GOP campaign consultants.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Can't think of many who just suddenly turned into a good person and had a conscience develop where there was none before.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Greer knows he's going down and is pissed off about the GOP not supporting him.
So, he spills the beans on what is obvious to us - that voter suppression is real and planned.
Remember, the SOP for the GOP is deny, deny, deny that their "voter protection" laws are actually voter suppression.
The cat's officially out of the bag now.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,125 posts)Why can't they return to their roots? Normally a party would return to their traditional stances and beliefs in order to appeal to a majority. Not the new GOP. They opt to protect only the very wealthy rather than stand up for their own party.
Kingofalldems
(38,461 posts)Some people need to go to jail.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,461 posts)as republicans will not investigate themselves.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Without it any gains we may make will soon be undone. Our whole democracy depends on fair and free elections.
Contact Congress-critters now while it still is a fresh issue.
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)weren't that thrilled about Romney and decided to go home? Unintended consequences will bite you in the ass every time.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Marmitist
(64 posts)That would make anyone who contemplated a future theft of democracy think twice.
wakemewhenitsover
(1,595 posts)...given the fact that I was one of many Democrats whose resolve to stay in a four-hour line was only strengthened by awareness of Republican vote shenanigans; given the fact that Obama not only won Florida, but also won re-election, I have to ask these scumbag Republicans: how'd that voter suppression work out for ya, assholes?
charin
(62 posts)You and the others who stood hours in line to vote are my heros! Good on ya'!
wakemewhenitsover
(1,595 posts)And welcome to DU!
sackabanana
(3 posts)ya don't succeed, try try again in 2014, 2016, 2018, 2020... ad adnauseum