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peppertree

(21,672 posts)
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 06:33 PM Nov 2023

Pope says some 'backward' conservatives in US Catholic Church have replaced faith with ideology

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Source: AP

Pope Francis has blasted the “backwardness” of some conservatives in the U.S. Catholic Church, saying they have replaced faith with ideology and that a correct understanding of Catholic doctrine allows for change over time.

Francis’ comments were an acknowledgment of the divisions in the U.S. Catholic Church, which has been split between progressives and conservatives who long found support in the doctrinaire papacies of St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI, particularly on issues of abortion and same-sex marriage.

Many conservatives have blasted Francis’ emphasis instead on social justice issues such as the environment and the poor, while also branding as heretical his opening to letting divorced and civilly remarried Catholics receive the sacraments.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-vatican-conservatives-abortion-us-bbfc346c117bd9ae68a1963478bea6b3





Pope Francis meets relatives of hostages taken by Hamas militants from Israel in his residence at the Vatican on Wednesday.

The Pontiff criticized “a very strong, organized, reactionary attitude” among conservatives the U.S. Catholic church.

He warned that such an attitude leads to a climate of closure, which was erroneous.
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LonePirate

(13,431 posts)
1. Imagine claiming to be a follower of Christ and being upset for someone placing too much emphasis on the poor.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 06:39 PM
Nov 2023

Evangelicals possess an incongruent sham of an ideology.

Docreed2003

(16,877 posts)
2. "Blasted his emphasis on social Justice issues such as the environment and the poor"
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 06:39 PM
Nov 2023

They're blasting him for being "Christ-like". Smdh, and the American bishops wonder why people aren't going to church and filling their coffers.

onetexan

(13,061 posts)
13. Those are the same bishops who either molested children themselves
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 08:16 PM
Nov 2023

Or turned a blind eye to the priests under them molesting kids.

pfitz59

(10,391 posts)
3. like the catholics on SCrOTUS?
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 07:00 PM
Nov 2023

who love money and power?

Bayard

(22,163 posts)
4. A progressive Pope
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 07:06 PM
Nov 2023

Who would have thought that?

hlthe2b

(102,378 posts)
5. How right you are, Pope Francis... (I hope he has good security, btw)
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 07:09 PM
Nov 2023

jaxexpat

(6,851 posts)
16. I've heard the Swiss are on it.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 08:27 PM
Nov 2023

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
6. LOL
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 07:37 PM
Nov 2023

yeah, OK, whatever

NNadir

(33,561 posts)
7. In this country, Christianity has largely morphed into a cult of hatred. There are exceptions of course...
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 07:46 PM
Nov 2023

...but nonetheless, this is the reality.

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
9. I think you're painting too broad a brush.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 07:51 PM
Nov 2023

That may be true in a minority of faiths. But I think most Christians aren't hatemongers but quite the opposite.

NNadir

(33,561 posts)
11. Fair enough. I apologize for saying what I said, but the worst ones are very loud.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 07:53 PM
Nov 2023

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
12. I agree with you there. Quite loud.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 08:13 PM
Nov 2023

Tumbulu

(6,292 posts)
14. Yes, they are and I loath them
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 08:18 PM
Nov 2023

and I think your original conclusion it is an absolutely a reasonable one based on the loud moths and those who preach. And the evangelicals who follow them such as the brain bound (a less visible form of foot binding) Justice Barrett.

But the majority of actual Christians are not among this group, in my experience.And are pained by them, as they feel that they misrepresent a faith that they feel strongly about. But do not vocalize.

quakerboy

(13,921 posts)
8. But what will the church do about it?
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 07:48 PM
Nov 2023

What will the Pope do about it. And, being frank, whats the point in having an organized top down religious edifice if the answer is nothing?

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
10. He'll do what he's doing and set a good example.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 07:53 PM
Nov 2023

twodogsbarking

(9,822 posts)
15. The church, however, is not backward in its thinking.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 08:25 PM
Nov 2023

ificandream

(9,387 posts)
17. As one of the hosts of this forum, I'm locking this thread.
Sat Nov 25, 2023, 08:31 PM
Nov 2023
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