Russia says U.S. Patriot missiles in Ukraine won't stand in its way

[Kennah]

Source: Reuters

Russia said that Ukraine acquiring Patriot missiles from the United States, announced during President Volodymyr Zelenskiy's visit to Washington, would not help settle the conflict or prevent Moscow from achieving its goals.

Though the Patriot air defence system is widely regarded as advanced, President Vladimir Putin dismissed it as "quite old", telling reporters Moscow would find a way to counter it. At the same time, he said Russia wants an end to the war in Ukraine and that this would inevitably involve a diplomatic solution.

"Our goal is not to spin the flywheel of military conflict, but, on the contrary, to end this war," Putin said. "We will strive for an end to this, and the sooner the better, of course."

These comments drew quick U.S. scepticism. White House spokesman John Kirby said Putin had "shown absolutely zero indication that he's willing to negotiate" an end to the war.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-says-us-patriot-missiles-in-ukraine-wont-stand-in-its-way/ar-AA15Auo5

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Send in your "new" SU-57 and SU-75 jets.

[RockRaven]

1. *Taps temple* "Can't shoot down our missiles...

... if we've run out of missiles."

[aeromanKC]

2. We'll take that bet and you're gonna regret because America's the best there's ever been.

[Gore1FL]

3. It is old, though I am sure updated from it's origins.

I bet it's better than a S300 or S400.

[forkol]

5. They have been updated, several times

"By the 1980s the Patriot was redesigned to target incoming enemy missiles. Today, the latest iterations of the antimissile system can track incoming targets from up to 100 kilometers away and destroy them within 40 kilometers from the launcher. The latest Patriot missiles employ high-precision "hit-to-kill" targeting in which the missile explodes on impact, rather than in the vicinity of an enemy projectile."

What The Patriot Missile System Can, And Can't Do For Ukraine

[Happy Hoosier]

14. Well, the BASE model is old.

But as with all such systems, they get fairly frequent updates.

After all, the original version of the AIM-9 missile was introduced in the 1950's. The newest version, the AIM-9X is still a cutting edge AtA missile.

[Kennah]

4. F15 and F16 are older, Vlad. Shall we dance?

[OnDoutside]

6. Lol... it's only a flesh wound....

[mitch96]

7. I love all the subtle references to lyrics and movies.. keep 'em coming... nt

[Javaman]

8. oh pootie? what happened to all the "threats" of retaliation?

more bullshit and bluster as suspected.

[machoneman]

9. Like many USA arms, they were purpose designed to be easily upgraded....and were.

Just look at the history of the U.S. made Sidewider missiles, introduced IIRC in the Vietnam era. Still in use today with many upgraded versions.

[PerceptionManagement]

10. Of course patriot missles won't 'stand' in your way. They will fly up and kill orcs. you big silly.

[Mysterian]

11. The smartest thing ol' Rooty Poot could do right now is disappear

with several billions to a safe harbor outside of Russia. I am disgusted the Russian people have not thrown him out a window yet, but I feel certain it will happen in the near future.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

12. ....

Send in your "new" SU-57 and SU-75 jets.

Kinda hard to do that when you only have 3-13 of them, while the US has about 195 F-22 Raptors and over 450 F-35's in it's inventory, the F-35 is the premier 5th Gen stealth fighter in the world and far outclasses anything Russia has in it's inventory.

I suspect that Putin won't want to send his limited number of SU-57's against the Patriots.

[PortTack]

13. ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️

[maxsolomon]

15. those comments were for domestic propaganda.

he means end it with Russia victorious.

and no doubt, the patriots won't shoot everything down.

[XorXor]

16. Given the amount of complaints and "concerns" from overt and covert pro-russian propagandists

I'd think there is a fear of their ability to shoot down Russian missiles before they hit Ukrainian targets.


Isn't it fascinating how these defensive systems are viewed as provocation by the pro-russian crowd? They are upset that Russian missiles are being shotdown before they hit targets. It's even more amazing that some of these people claim to be anti-war

[EndlessWire]

17. Too late.

"President Vladimir Putin dismissed it as "quite old", telling reporters Moscow would find a way to counter it."

Quite old...find a way...You are too late, Putin, if you are still looking for a way to counter them. The WAR will be over with Crimea back in the fold before you "find a way" to counter them. Try to keep up, Vlad, you are embarrassing yourself.

[womanofthehills]

18. It could take a yr to train soldiers how to maintain Patriot

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/21/politics/patriot-missiles-ukraine/index.html

Retired Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling, former commander of US Army Europe, told CNN that there is likely some unrealistic expectations about what a Patriot battery will be able to do for Ukraine. It won’t, for example, be available to use immediately after the US agrees to provide it — it takes months to train troops on how to use the complex system, Hertling said, adding that training US troops to serve as maintainers or repairmen takes around a year. And it won’t be able to provide blanket cover for the entire country.

“These systems don’t pick up and move around the battlefield,” Hertling said. “You put them in place somewhere that defends your most strategic target, like a city, like Kyiv. If anyone thinks this is going to be a system that is spread across a 500-mile border between Ukraine and Russia, they just don’t know how the system operates.”

[Kennah]

19. Training on other systems has been expedited. Why not this?

[NickB79]

20. I'd bet money we started training Ukrainians the day Russia started massing on the border

We've been bringing Ukrainian troops to the US for joint training for years now.

[Mysterian]

21. Russia cannot conquer Ukraine militarily....

so now the murderers are terrorizing the civilian population in the vain hope of achieving a cease-fire and they keep what they have stolen.