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bluewater

(5,376 posts)
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:24 PM Sep 2020

Nancy Pelosi Doesn't Rule Out Using Impeachment To Stall SCOTUS Nomination

Source: Huffington Post

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Sunday left open the possibility of using the impeachment process to prevent the Republican-controlled Senate from confirming a new Supreme Court associate justice in the next few months.

George Stephanopoulos, host of ABC's "This Week," told Pelosi that some people have suggested the House could move to impeach President Donald Trump or Attorney General William Barr "as a way of stalling" the judicial nomination process.

"Well, we have our options. We have arrows in our quiver that I'm not about to discuss right now," Pelosi said before pivoting to discuss the upcoming election and the coronavirus pandemic.
"This president has threatened to not even accept the results of the election with statements that he and his henchmen have made," she said. "So right now, our main goal ... would be to protect the integrity of the election as we protect the American people from the coronavirus."

Stephanopoulos pressed Pelosi: "But to be clear, you're not taking any arrows out of your quiver? You're not ruling anything out?"
Pelosi hesitated before responding, adding that Democrats will use "every arrow in our quiver" to protect democracy.

"We have a responsibility," she said. "We take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. We have a responsibility to meet the needs of the American people. That is when we weigh the equities, protecting our democracy requires us to use every arrow in our quiver."

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nancy-pelosi-impeach-scotus-nomination_n_5f675d92c5b6b9795b1244a9



Stay strong Madam Speaker, the integrity of an entire branch of government is at stake. The Republicans cannot be allowed to arbitrarily change Senate rules to block Democratic nominations to the court while allowing their own to go forward.

Save the Supreme Court from this Republican assault.
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Nancy Pelosi Doesn't Rule Out Using Impeachment To Stall SCOTUS Nomination (Original Post) bluewater Sep 2020 OP
I'm just wondering if impeaching him again would make any difference. totodeinhere Sep 2020 #1
Can Supreme Court Justices themselves be impeached? I believe so. bluewater Sep 2020 #8
Of course they can be impeached but it would take a 2/3rds vote in the Senate totodeinhere Sep 2020 #11
Good point. bluewater Sep 2020 #12
67, schmixty seven. After the election some republicans may grow a soul. jaxexpat Sep 2020 #36
It's not that they don' have one - it's that they sold it out to the Mercers and Kochs long ago sandensea Sep 2020 #50
Impeaching "Him" again would have to be done quickly. After 11/3 looks like sore loser. StTimofEdenRoc Sep 2020 #34
Not if trump LOSES it won't. trump NEEDS to be Cha Sep 2020 #55
Leningrad Linsey and Moscow Mitch will goose-step us into fascistic dictatorship as we sleep. olegramps Sep 2020 #52
It won't make a damn bit of difference The Mouth Sep 2020 #58
We have got to be sure that we are more fired up than they are. n/t totodeinhere Sep 2020 #61
That's a misleading headline, putting words in Speaker Pelosi's mouth. groundloop Sep 2020 #2
I don't understand how Impeachment would have anything to do with the Senate mysteryowl Sep 2020 #3
Once and impeachment has been.. 2naSalit Sep 2020 #21
Or they can just say, "Screw the trial, Trump's all good." sakabatou Sep 2020 #31
True. 2naSalit Sep 2020 #33
Trump has threated to use an EO to disqualify Biden from the election. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2020 #4
He THINKS he can do anything with an EO. He cant. oldsoftie Sep 2020 #26
Not to mention LYING to the American People Cha Sep 2020 #56
The idea is to block the system from moving forward on the Supreme Court ashredux Sep 2020 #5
Another impeachment vote in the House would not stop the Senate from doing other business. totodeinhere Sep 2020 #13
I think the impeachment pre-empts all other business in the 2naSalit Sep 2020 #22
No it does not. The Senate can take up the impeachment trial when it sees fit. totodeinhere Sep 2020 #25
Any experts out there who know how impeaching the Idiot again would effectively delay anything? honest.abe Sep 2020 #6
She needs to impeach barr and trump at the same time. BComplex Sep 2020 #7
There's an election in a few weeks FBaggins Sep 2020 #30
I think people know that it would be a defensive move to keep the republicans from trying to pull BComplex Sep 2020 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author bluewater Sep 2020 #9
You are correct. totodeinhere Sep 2020 #18
Time frame would be Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #10
No, if the GOP loses control of the Senate in the election that would not take effect until next totodeinhere Sep 2020 #14
Won't Some Senators winning special elections be seated sooner? bluewater Sep 2020 #16
That's just one more vote and it would not get the Democrats anywhere near the 67 totodeinhere Sep 2020 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author bluewater Sep 2020 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author bluewater Sep 2020 #37
New Congress is seated January 3. POTUS/VP is January 20. CaptainTruth Sep 2020 #35
Would special election winners be seated even before January 3rd? bluewater Sep 2020 #38
One could be available as soon as 11/30. FBaggins Sep 2020 #49
Not necessary the case. Wellstone ruled Sep 2020 #17
I do not get your logic. There is no way that the Democrats will take control of the Senate before totodeinhere Sep 2020 #23
You actually think that there is a possibility of 67 Democrats in the Senate? Jose Garcia Sep 2020 #60
Hell yeah jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #15
Where....in god's name would we be without her!! Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #19
They could come up with about 175 impeachments from this administration bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #24
Elaine Chao would be a good candidate also Pompeo on November 4 4 JT45242 Sep 2020 #27
Great Idea! just keep recommending horrible people with horrible records and keep asking questions Flash953 Sep 2020 #53
Nancy Pelosi ROCKS!! She's got what it takes! She's proved it OVER AND OVER AGAIN! NurseJackie Sep 2020 #28
GOOD. These are the tactics I want to see. DaisyTom Sep 2020 #39
I have heard this tough talk before only to Rs steam roll Dems. Recent example PPP oversight. Whose Pepsidog Sep 2020 #40
The optics of this are terrible for us to regular voters. Calista241 Sep 2020 #41
trump cult members certainly know who RBG is, SophieJean Sep 2020 #43
Correct Tumbulu Sep 2020 #45
Suggestions on what they can do that they are not doing now? (nt) ehrnst Sep 2020 #57
Oooh! Ooooh! LudwigPastorius Sep 2020 #42
Can McConnel be impeached? Tumbulu Sep 2020 #44
This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 Sep 2020 #62
Pelosi is great at her job, I have great faith in her abilities Chainfire Sep 2020 #46
Whatever it takes. (nt) Paladin Sep 2020 #47
We are @ the crossroads. Love Nancy's phraseology. If anyone is confirmed to The Supreme Illumination Sep 2020 #48
I LOVE this B1T*h! TallMike Sep 2020 #51
"Don't characterize the power I bring." Politicub Sep 2020 #54
This is what you say when you can't do a damn thing Jose Garcia Sep 2020 #59
Impeach Barr. roamer65 Sep 2020 #63
Today's reporting about Putin directing the disinfo DeminPennswoods Sep 2020 #64
Barr needs to be impeached even more than Trump does right now, IMO. Withywindle Sep 2020 #65

totodeinhere

(13,037 posts)
1. I'm just wondering if impeaching him again would make any difference.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:27 PM
Sep 2020

Impeachment starts in the House. While the House is taking up impeachment the Senate could be voting on a SCOTUS nomination. And if the House did vote to impeach it would be up to Moscow Mitch to decide when to take that up. He could have the Senate take up the court nomination first.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
8. Can Supreme Court Justices themselves be impeached? I believe so.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:39 PM
Sep 2020

A simple majority in the House could impeach a Justice and a Democratically controlled Senate could remove them.

totodeinhere

(13,037 posts)
11. Of course they can be impeached but it would take a 2/3rds vote in the Senate
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:45 PM
Sep 2020

to remove them and the Democrats will have nowhere near 67 votes in the Senate even if they do take control after the election.

jaxexpat

(6,703 posts)
36. 67, schmixty seven. After the election some republicans may grow a soul.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:30 PM
Sep 2020

Agreed, it's unlikely, also agree that 2020 has shown little prejudice toward likelihood.

There's still Christmas. "Remember the Grinchamo!"

sandensea

(21,530 posts)
50. It's not that they don' have one - it's that they sold it out to the Mercers and Kochs long ago
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 05:02 PM
Sep 2020

If not the Devil himself.

They have an agenda to follow, and you can never count on more than 3 or 4 to vary from that even an iota.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
55. Not if trump LOSES it won't. trump NEEDS to be
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 06:37 AM
Sep 2020

Impeached AGAIN for lying to the American People about COVID.

The Mouth

(3,123 posts)
58. It won't make a damn bit of difference
Mon Sep 21, 2020, 12:46 PM
Sep 2020

and will fire up his base.

It was a stupid temper tantrum the first time and it would be again.

groundloop

(11,488 posts)
2. That's a misleading headline, putting words in Speaker Pelosi's mouth.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:29 PM
Sep 2020

AND, I agree that it's doubtful that impeachment in the House would hold up the Senate's vote on a Supreme Court "nominee*"

mysteryowl

(7,323 posts)
3. I don't understand how Impeachment would have anything to do with the Senate
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:30 PM
Sep 2020

holding a hearing and voting to install a new SCOTUS. If I know that, I wonder what she is thinking about?

2naSalit

(86,061 posts)
21. Once and impeachment has been..
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:58 PM
Sep 2020

voted upon in the House, the moment it hits the Senate all other business in the Senate stops until the trial is done.

4. Trump has threated to use an EO to disqualify Biden from the election.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:30 PM
Sep 2020

He has done so many impeachable offenses since Ukraine that Nancy would be justified in making passing articles of impeachment the first order of business Monday.

totodeinhere

(13,037 posts)
13. Another impeachment vote in the House would not stop the Senate from doing other business.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:48 PM
Sep 2020

Even if the House did vote to impeach again the Senate could take up a SCOTUS nomination before holding an impeachment trial.

2naSalit

(86,061 posts)
22. I think the impeachment pre-empts all other business in the
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:00 PM
Sep 2020

Senate once it leaves the House and is received by the Senate.

totodeinhere

(13,037 posts)
25. No it does not. The Senate can take up the impeachment trial when it sees fit.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:06 PM
Sep 2020

The Senate schedule is controlled by the majority or in other words Moscow Mitch.

Impeachment wouldn’t slow the Senate down. There’s no requirement that an impeachment trial precludes all other Senate business or that a trial occupy much Senate time at all. (Remember, Trump impeachment trial had no witnesses.)


https://lawandcrime.com/politics/impeachment-expert-dismisses-possible-tactic-to-stop-new-trump-justice-from-joining-supreme-court/

honest.abe

(8,556 posts)
6. Any experts out there who know how impeaching the Idiot again would effectively delay anything?
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:32 PM
Sep 2020

Seems McConnel would decide the Senate schedule regardless of what's going on in the House.

BComplex

(7,984 posts)
32. I think people know that it would be a defensive move to keep the republicans from trying to pull
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:13 PM
Sep 2020

a hypocritical fast one on the supreme court.

Response to honest.abe (Reply #6)

totodeinhere

(13,037 posts)
18. You are correct.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:55 PM
Sep 2020

McConnell could schedule a vote on the SCOTUS nomination regardless of what the House did. If they impeach him again the Senate would be under no obligation to let that hold up their court nomination vote. Even if the GOP loses their Senate majority in the election that would not take effect until next January and in the meantime the GOP would continue to control the Senate.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
10. Time frame would be
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:41 PM
Sep 2020

at least two weeks in the House,followed by at least a month in the Senate. Same for Barr. Only this time,with the GOP loss in the Senate,the vote outcome would defiantly be bye bye donnie.

totodeinhere

(13,037 posts)
14. No, if the GOP loses control of the Senate in the election that would not take effect until next
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:50 PM
Sep 2020

January. The current Senate lineup would hold the impeachment trail. It would not definitely be by bye Donnie.

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
16. Won't Some Senators winning special elections be seated sooner?
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:53 PM
Sep 2020

For example, if Kelly wins in Arizona? I seem to remember seeing that he would be seated sooner than January 20th.

Would one or two such changes, along with the possibility of Senators changing their minds if Trump loses the race for president alter the outcome? I'm not sure, but the possibility might persuade 4 Republican Senators to not confirm Trumps nominee. Again, I just don't know.

totodeinhere

(13,037 posts)
20. That's just one more vote and it would not get the Democrats anywhere near the 67
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 02:58 PM
Sep 2020

votes they would need.

Response to totodeinhere (Reply #20)

Response to totodeinhere (Reply #20)

bluewater

(5,376 posts)
38. Would special election winners be seated even before January 3rd?
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:40 PM
Sep 2020

Every vote in the Senate could make a difference , since only 4 votes need to swing to block Trump's nominee.

totodeinhere

(13,037 posts)
23. I do not get your logic. There is no way that the Democrats will take control of the Senate before
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:02 PM
Sep 2020

January and even if by some miracle they did they would not have anywhere near the 67 votes they would need to remove him.

JT45242

(2,173 posts)
27. Elaine Chao would be a good candidate also Pompeo on November 4 4
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:09 PM
Sep 2020

There is little doubt that she has done illegal tings especially with getting Covid relief.

Going after her might force McConnell to recuse himself and let someone else try to wrangle the muttts after they get annihilated in the election.

Then the Dems could stall and stall as points of order get worked through that would keep the Senate busy until January 3.

Remember they get replaced earlier than the President.

You could literally take your pick

Every cabinet level and sub-cabinet level official is so corrupt.

Pepsidog

(6,252 posts)
40. I have heard this tough talk before only to Rs steam roll Dems. Recent example PPP oversight. Whose
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:56 PM
Sep 2020

our McConnell, we sure do need one.

Calista241

(5,584 posts)
41. The optics of this are terrible for us to regular voters.
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 03:56 PM
Sep 2020

And I don't think they'd have much affect on the Senate. And forever after, we'd be seen as the party that impeached a President for partisan purposes and something other than a 'high crime or misdemeanor'.

Unfortunately, I bet 7 out of 10 Americans couldn't tell you who RBG was, or why she was so important.

 

SophieJean

(83 posts)
43. trump cult members certainly know who RBG is,
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:10 PM
Sep 2020

because they are celebrating her death. Ginsburg has been vilified by wingnuts for a very long time. They want her seat filled NOW. Fuck the "optics," do you see the mobster party worrying about optics? Democratic leadership needs to play hardball, if not impeachment then by utilizing all other options, otherwise it's game over. The fascists are ready to seize power any way possible. There are no do-overs.

Response to Tumbulu (Reply #44)

Chainfire

(17,308 posts)
46. Pelosi is great at her job, I have great faith in her abilities
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:31 PM
Sep 2020

If it can be done, she will know how. The inner workings of Congress is more mysterious than Qanon logic.

 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
48. We are @ the crossroads. Love Nancy's phraseology. If anyone is confirmed to The Supreme
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:41 PM
Sep 2020

Court, it should be Merrick Garland!...

TallMike

(161 posts)
51. I LOVE this B1T*h!
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 05:24 PM
Sep 2020

I'm a libtard biker and have been for some 5 +decades. Not an easy role to fulfill these days. I live in a very, very red small town in the smoky California mountains. It's tough man. I'm just shy of 60 and got into a fist fight with a 30 something magat last night when he yelled across the bar "FUCK RBG!".
Age prevailed. Sore in a spot or two no doubt. Luckily he was about 2/3rds my size. Hey, he threw first...
Anyway, my point I guess:
Nancy F-ing Polosi is Legend.
When my mother retired, she held a full minute of silence in the state senate to commemorate.
When my mother passed she held another in the national.
She's as good as it gets.
Mom never gained her American citizenship. Complicated.
But I and my siblings have ours.
Vote!
Our lives just may depend on it.
Thanks for the rant.

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
64. Today's reporting about Putin directing the disinfo
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 05:35 PM
Sep 2020

campaign against Biden and Russian oligarch money flowing into the the same acct that paid off Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal certainly the helps the cause for another impeachment of Trump.

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
65. Barr needs to be impeached even more than Trump does right now, IMO.
Tue Sep 22, 2020, 05:38 PM
Sep 2020

Dump is a useful idiot. Barr has the real power right now, and he's way more scary because he's not totally out to lunch.

Think the Shrub/Cheney power dynamic on steroids.

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