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sarisataka

(18,647 posts)
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 01:35 PM Aug 2020

Military helicopter shot at over Virginia, injuring a crew member

Source: CNN

A US Air Force helicopter was shot at near Manassas, Virginia, on Monday injuring one of two pilots on board, according to an Air Force official.

The UH-1N was flying 10 miles northwest of Manassas on a routine training mission at an altitude of 1,000 feet when the incident occurred. It landed safely at Manassas Regional Airport west of Washington, DC, and the pilot was taken to hospital where they were treated and released, the official said.

The incident is now under FBI and Air Force investigation to determine if the helicopter was deliberately shot at or if someone was randomly shooting into the air. The aircraft will be closely inspected for other damage, the official added.

The airport operations officer Richard Allabaugh reported its air traffic control tower was notified of an "an onboard emergency on a military helicopter that was inbound."



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/12/politics/fbi-investigating-air-force-helicopter-shooting/index.html

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Military helicopter shot at over Virginia, injuring a crew member (Original Post) sarisataka Aug 2020 OP
The North shall rise again? ExciteBike66 Aug 2020 #1
slow flying helicopters at low altitude aren't that hard to hit... getagrip_already Aug 2020 #2
At 1000ft altitude? jayfish Aug 2020 #5
Three football fields and change. Not all that high up. marble falls Aug 2020 #7
AR-15 Maximum Effective Range atreides1 Aug 2020 #19
Not talking About The Hardware... jayfish Aug 2020 #20
Who said it was a layman, by using layman I assume that you meant not an expert shot. marie999 Aug 2020 #21
Yeah, it possible. But 1000 feet is a hell of a shot. GulfCoast66 Aug 2020 #23
I imagine shooting *up* is also far harder muriel_volestrangler Aug 2020 #28
You made me do math sarisataka Aug 2020 #32
if found , jail time . AllaN01Bear Aug 2020 #3
Even if a random shot in the air; jail time. keithbvadu2 Aug 2020 #6
and loss of weapons and all rights to own weapons. marble falls Aug 2020 #8
O'Noooooos, not give up the gunz. 3Hotdogs Aug 2020 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Aug 2020 #10
For your perusal from the Texas Tribune' January 2, 2020 ResistantAmerican17 Aug 2020 #13
Yes, unfortunately this is a thing. iscooterliberally Aug 2020 #14
All the time in Philadelphia on New Year's GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #16
Apparently LA is a free fire zone on NYE. ResistantAmerican17 Aug 2020 #17
I've heard that. GoneOffShore Aug 2020 #18
kinda' hope some f*ckwit gets a real good spanking stopdiggin Aug 2020 #4
Resisting tyranny? IronLionZion Aug 2020 #9
B caught soon just us Aug 2020 #11
I sure hope so. Somebody's looking at a loooooong sentence. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #25
I Pray that the Pilot and Crew is well. djacq Aug 2020 #12
In the bad old days, it would be because they inadvertently flew over a "grow" area or haele Aug 2020 #22
Not upper-class in the several decades I've been around here. lagomorph777 Aug 2020 #26
Probably a random shot in the air Polybius Aug 2020 #24
Tricky, definitely sarisataka Aug 2020 #33
I will admit my knowledge is limited on guns, so let me ask you this Polybius Aug 2020 #34
It depends sarisataka Aug 2020 #35
Didn't realize the Army of Northern Virginia had an Anti-Airship Brigade. Devil Child Aug 2020 #27
Heck yeah. They funded it w/influx of $$ from battle flag sales okaawhatever Aug 2020 #29
How do you think they brought this down? muriel_volestrangler Aug 2020 #30
That's So Fake. jayfish Aug 2020 #31
That and the guy with his foot on the head... NutmegYankee Aug 2020 #36

getagrip_already

(14,750 posts)
2. slow flying helicopters at low altitude aren't that hard to hit...
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 01:42 PM
Aug 2020

Especially if you fire a lot of shots. It's probably just luck they hit the cockpit somewhere. They didn't sy what the injury was. could have just been glass or a piece of metal causing a cut. They didn't say bullet wound, so it makes me think something else.

But what yahoo would shoot at a helicopter anyway? It will almost certainly result in a swarm of planes, copters, and surface vehicles.
if you wanted them to stay away, you achieved just the opposite.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
5. At 1000ft altitude?
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 02:11 PM
Aug 2020

The distance of the shot would have probably been even further? Sounds like BS to me.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
19. AR-15 Maximum Effective Range
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 04:01 PM
Aug 2020

Is 400 to 600 meters. 400 meters equates to 1312 feet/ 600 meters equates to 1968 feet. It's very possible.

jayfish

(10,039 posts)
20. Not talking About The Hardware...
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 04:06 PM
Aug 2020

and I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm talking about a layman hitting a flying object at 1000ft altitude. Also, as I said earlier, the chopper being 1000ft up doesn't' mean it was 1000 ft away from the shooter. It was likely much further away. If it wasn't a layman then that's a whole different problem.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
21. Who said it was a layman, by using layman I assume that you meant not an expert shot.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 04:54 PM
Aug 2020

We don't know what type of weapon was used or how many rounds were fired.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
23. Yeah, it possible. But 1000 feet is a hell of a shot.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 07:35 PM
Aug 2020

Especially at a moving target.

My deer rifle conceivably can hit a target at over 800 yards. But I would never try one over 300 yards.

I hope they catch the person that did it.

sarisataka

(18,647 posts)
32. You made me do math
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:04 PM
Aug 2020

assuming the shot was from a quarter mile away, 1320 ft, at a helicopter at 1000 ft, the straight line distance is 1656 ft. 552 yards is well within range of any rifle. To hit a specific point would be a stretch for an average shooter but to simply hit a helicopter somewhere wouldn't take more than a few shots, quite possibly hit on the first try.

Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #6)

ResistantAmerican17

(3,806 posts)
13. For your perusal from the Texas Tribune' January 2, 2020
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 03:22 PM
Aug 2020

A Houston Woman Was Killed by Celebratory Gunfire on New Year’s Eve

Psych nurse Philippa Ashford was standing in her driveway when the bullet came down.

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
16. All the time in Philadelphia on New Year's
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 03:38 PM
Aug 2020

It used to be just South Philly, but over the last couple of years it's all over the city.

Glad I'm not there anymore.

That, among other reasons.

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
18. I've heard that.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 03:57 PM
Aug 2020

I now only have to worry about stray shots out in the countryside when la chasse is happening.

Glad to be here and not there.

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
4. kinda' hope some f*ckwit gets a real good spanking
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 02:09 PM
Aug 2020

over this one. I would rather suppose that there are some people pretty POd people in connection. Expect for some resources brought to bear.

djacq

(1,634 posts)
12. I Pray that the Pilot and Crew is well.
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 02:44 PM
Aug 2020

The UH-1N is one of about 20 same aircraft assigned to 1st Helicopter Squadron, Joint Base Andrews.

I was assigned to this unit for 8 years of my 24 years of military service in the Air Force.

1st Heli
First and Foremost.

haele

(12,652 posts)
22. In the bad old days, it would be because they inadvertently flew over a "grow" area or
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 05:50 PM
Aug 2020

an anti government compound in the hills.

'Course, I doubt there was a grow area around Manassas. That used to be a pretty upper middle class suburb whenever I was stuck in DC.

Haele

Polybius

(15,407 posts)
24. Probably a random shot in the air
Wed Aug 12, 2020, 11:32 PM
Aug 2020

Without military-grade weapons/radar, it would have been a million to one shot.

sarisataka

(18,647 posts)
33. Tricky, definitely
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:05 PM
Aug 2020

and the deflection could make it more or less difficult but very possible with any hunting rifle.

Polybius

(15,407 posts)
34. I will admit my knowledge is limited on guns, so let me ask you this
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:14 PM
Aug 2020

Would it have been easier if the shooter had a high-powered semi-auto with 100 rounds? If he or she shot 100 rounds at it, I would imagine there would be a better chance of one hitting, no?

sarisataka

(18,647 posts)
35. It depends
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 02:31 PM
Aug 2020

hi power means more recoil so follow up shots are more difficult.
Semi autos usually have buffers so follow up shots are easier.
Something like a bolt action is typically more accurate so has a better first shot hit.
Semi allows 'spray and pray' so you can go for quantity instead of quality, though there are very accurate semi autos.

Boiling it down to the base- what it the best chance to hit a moving target at long range, the semi auto will give the greatest chance of hitting.

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
29. Heck yeah. They funded it w/influx of $$ from battle flag sales
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 01:05 PM
Aug 2020

to Trump supporters.

Kidding. Just kidding

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
36. That and the guy with his foot on the head...
Thu Aug 13, 2020, 09:02 PM
Aug 2020

Has his cartridge box all around to his back, which would be very uncomfortable. The round seal should be more to the left.

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