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brooklynite

(94,355 posts)
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 10:29 AM Aug 2020

Over 300 DNC delegates, members urge Biden to pick Bass for VP

Source: Politico

More than 300 delegates to the Democratic National Convention and members of the Democratic National Committee have signed on to a statement pushing Joe Biden to choose Rep. Karen Bass as a “unity” vice presidential pick, POLITICO has learned.

The lobbying effort, which comes days before the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee is expected to unveil his running mate, makes the case that the congresswoman would help bring the party together.

The endorsement comes as Bass has come under fire for past remarks praising Scientology and calling former Cuban dictator Fidel Castro “comandante en jefe,” or commander in chief. Some of her supporters have argued that she is being redbaited and targeted because she has won endorsements from the progressive left.

“We, delegates to the DNC for Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders, and others, believe Congresswoman Karen Bass is the best choice among vice presidential candidates under consideration to help unify our party and move our nation forward,” the announcement reads. “We urge Vice President Biden to choose her to join the ticket.”

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/07/over-300-dnc-delegates-members-urge-biden-to-pick-bass-for-vp-392553

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Over 300 DNC delegates, members urge Biden to pick Bass for VP (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2020 OP
Politico, Bernie, purity..what could go wrong? Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #1
Sorry, what does Politico have to do with this story? brooklynite Aug 2020 #4
As a very long time member of DU, I thank you for your reporting Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #11
What is the "other side"? brooklynite Aug 2020 #13
Look, I don't want to argue with you. Politico was and is know to side with Bernie consistently Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #15
I'm not arguing; I'm trying to understand your point. brooklynite Aug 2020 #20
Again, I read almost everything you post, and I thank you. Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #25
Who's she? Pick Rice, Harris, Duckworth! Beakybird Aug 2020 #2
That seems nuts to me. Why pick someone with such obviously exploitable baggage? scarletwoman Aug 2020 #3
THIS. MontanaMama Aug 2020 #5
+1 SheltieLover Aug 2020 #6
The Baggage Attracts Such People, Ma'am The Magistrate Aug 2020 #7
+1000 Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #16
Agree Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #12
Agreed pandr32 Aug 2020 #43
Sure awesomerwb1 Aug 2020 #8
It's part of the sifting process bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #9
Harris seems like the better choice, but then, that's just me. PatrickforO Aug 2020 #10
I totally agree.... the VP's job in a campaign has historically been "attack dog" groundloop Aug 2020 #21
I agree. Because once she's the VP, she will be in the room, at the table, and will learn PatrickforO Aug 2020 #35
I second that ace3csusm Aug 2020 #38
That is my wish. nt yaesu Aug 2020 #31
+1000. ehrnst Aug 2020 #39
Yet another mess from Politico's very own H.A. Otterbein... NurseJackie Aug 2020 #14
I really appreciate your observations about this Politico "Dems in disarray" columnist. Her shtick scarletwoman Aug 2020 #45
No ! left-of-center2012 Aug 2020 #17
I agree! Rebl2 Aug 2020 #23
I like both of them but I prefer Duckworth. She can really dish it. OregonBlue Aug 2020 #26
Yes Rebl2 Aug 2020 #49
Currently there are 4,051 pledged delegates. left-of-center2012 Aug 2020 #18
I know, right? NurseJackie Aug 2020 #32
I had my calculation wrong because I did not count the super delegates. PatrickforO Aug 2020 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Aug 2020 #37
Why Karen Bass? TheFarseer Aug 2020 #19
Agree Rebl2 Aug 2020 #24
No. Mz Pip Aug 2020 #22
Agree! Bass won't help with North Carolina, either. But Elizabeth Warren sure would!!! BComplex Aug 2020 #27
That's who I want TheFarseer Aug 2020 #30
She doesn't have a future in national electoral politics. Renew Deal Aug 2020 #28
millions of us democrats say no way beachbumbob Aug 2020 #29
Why can't everyone let the man pick a VP without all the extra noise FloridaBlues Aug 2020 #33
Politics brooklynite Aug 2020 #46
This would be one of those "deflating balloon" VP announcements. NBachers Aug 2020 #34
A unity pick? Someone who has lauded Scientology? No way! n/t pnwmom Aug 2020 #40
She's got my vote ucrdem Aug 2020 #41
Another small minority of delegates trying to throw their weight around? MineralMan Aug 2020 #42
At this point I think she'd be a lead weight what with the Scientology/Castro business. Vinca Aug 2020 #44
pure fuckery - might as well get Kanye...Bass, Scientology & Castro fer fuck's sake... bringthePaine Aug 2020 #47
She makes an effort to reach out and connect ucrdem Aug 2020 #48
Are they nuts? Communism, Casto and Scientology. That's 3 strikes liskddksil Aug 2020 #50
The right is already pushing the idea that moderate Biden is just a bait-and-switch Sapient Donkey Aug 2020 #52
Keisha Lance Bottoms. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2020 #51

brooklynite

(94,355 posts)
4. Sorry, what does Politico have to do with this story?
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 10:38 AM
Aug 2020

Is it factually false?

Is it not related to politics?

Thekaspervote

(32,707 posts)
11. As a very long time member of DU, I thank you for your reporting
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 10:55 AM
Aug 2020

Politico has a long history of both siderism, supporting bernie long past the sell date in 16 as well as the 2020 primary among other things. I’m not the only one here that feels that way about politico

No the story is factual you are correct

brooklynite

(94,355 posts)
13. What is the "other side"?
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 10:58 AM
Aug 2020

A group of Democrats advocated publicly for a VP choice. That's political news, which is what POLITICO reports cost.

Thekaspervote

(32,707 posts)
15. Look, I don't want to argue with you. Politico was and is know to side with Bernie consistently
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:02 AM
Aug 2020

Which is okay during the primary. Not now...

brooklynite

(94,355 posts)
20. I'm not arguing; I'm trying to understand your point.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:08 AM
Aug 2020

Is reporting on support for Karen Bass "pro Bernie"? If so, how?

Is running a story on Kamala Harris "anti Bernie"?

Thekaspervote

(32,707 posts)
25. Again, I read almost everything you post, and I thank you.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:27 AM
Aug 2020

You are correct in your assessment.

What I see many times more than not from politico is biased reporting. That is my point, nothing more nothing less

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
3. That seems nuts to me. Why pick someone with such obviously exploitable baggage?
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 10:37 AM
Aug 2020

The Trumpists would love to be able to use "Socialist!" to attack the Biden ticket. Why hand it to them on a platter?

The Magistrate

(95,243 posts)
7. The Baggage Attracts Such People, Ma'am
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 10:47 AM
Aug 2020

Were Rep. Bass the nominee, they could feel their views had gone mainstream. They haven't, of course, but it would bring them some bit of joy, for a few months at least.

I suspect the national ticket will manage quite well without a former Venceremos Brigade member, and will have a unified Party solidly behind it.

pandr32

(11,554 posts)
43. Agreed
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 01:13 PM
Aug 2020

I can just see it now--all the ads claiming she's a friend of Scientology and a communist who loves Castro. It would scare too many people and kill our chances in Florida. That's just to start. Of course they will also make shit up no matter who the VP is.

awesomerwb1

(4,265 posts)
8. Sure
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 10:48 AM
Aug 2020

Let's just do what a tiny but extremely vocal (like they think they're the majority part of the party) want.

Ignore the 80-85% of the party who actually voted for the other candidate who won in a landslide.

It's ridiculous how these people are trying to hold the party hostage. Do as we say or we'll create chaos.


F O

bucolic_frolic

(43,057 posts)
9. It's part of the sifting process
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 10:49 AM
Aug 2020

In the final weeks and days before a VP candidate is selected, you can expect stories to float about the also rans. This is to give a nod to their supporters with the acknowledgement they have been seriously considered. It's not an empty acknowledgement, they have. But if they were the real VP choice they wouldn't be mentioned here at this time in articles like these.

PatrickforO

(14,559 posts)
10. Harris seems like the better choice, but then, that's just me.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 10:49 AM
Aug 2020

You all know I'm pretty aggressive, and that's one of the main reasons why I like Harris. She'd be great on the campaign trail. Because, yeah, we need to heal, but first there's a big battle to fight on Nov. 3 that is by no means certain.

But there's a few holes in this story. There's 3,979 delegates, so 'more than 300' would be around 7.5%. Significant, but...

And...why do we need a 'unity' VP pick? What does that even mean? Unity.

Looking around, and not just on here, I'm seeing huge amounts of unity in terms of voting Biden over Trump.

This politico article just sort of rubs me wrong, you know? Like they were searching around for something to write that generates a little controversy.

And, silly me, I don't believe Bass is 'the best choice' among potential candidates. I'm sure she'd be fine, but why wouldn't Harris be the best choice? Or Duckworth? Or that other lady from FL? Or even Stacey Abrams? I like Stacey Abrams a lot, and look what she's done in GA - it's considered a 'toss up' state now, in spite of crooked Kemp.

groundloop

(11,514 posts)
21. I totally agree.... the VP's job in a campaign has historically been "attack dog"
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:19 AM
Aug 2020

Kamala Harris will certainly be able to hold her own in that role. She won't take shit from anyone, and I respect her for that.

And I believe Harris will be a great candidate for the White House in either 4 or 8 years.

PatrickforO

(14,559 posts)
35. I agree. Because once she's the VP, she will be in the room, at the table, and will learn
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 12:23 PM
Aug 2020

many, many things that cannot be learned except through experience.

After four years of that, she'll be seasoned and well fit to be president.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. Yet another mess from Politico's very own H.A. Otterbein...
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:00 AM
Aug 2020

Yet another mess from Politico's very own H.A. Otterbein that's trying to promote a "Democrats in Disarray" or "Democrats are Divided" narrative.

Fact of the matter is this: there are 4,765 total Democratic delegates. The 300 malcontent delegates in question amount a mere 6% who feel that they deserve some sort of consolation prize because their candidate didn't have enough votes to win our party's nomination. (Key phrase: "didn't have enough votes".)

to help unify our party and move our nation forward
And there we have it. The "Democrats are Divided" angle.

Fact of the matter is this: The primary is over. The MAJORITY of the voters chose Biden because they want a middle-of-the-road center-left candidate. I think it's very reasonable to assume that the same MAJORITY of voters will be pleased with a middle-of-the-road center-left VICE PRESIDENT choice.

Biden doesn't owe that disappointed and angry 6% anything (especially not at the expense of alienating a much larger 30% of the independent voters and never-Trump republicans.)

Ms Otterbein needs to stop trying to spin the narrative that the losing side is owed something. The primary is over, the platform negotiating is over. This is Biden's show now. HE gets to choose the VP that he believes he can work best with, someone who's qualified; someone who can take over and run for the office on her own merits; someone who LIFTS the ticket (not someone who has baggage or comes with great risk.)

Biden is smarter than that.



scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
45. I really appreciate your observations about this Politico "Dems in disarray" columnist. Her shtick
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 01:24 PM
Aug 2020

is so bloody obvious - and very tiresome.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
32. I know, right?
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:59 AM
Aug 2020

Upstream I did the math to calculate their numbers among all delegates: it was about 6%. I believe that they represent the malcontents who are still struggling to cope with their disappointment. I hope they get over it soon and learn to move on. (These are probably the same contingent of sour-bodies who thought it was appropriate to BOOOO! at civil-rights icon John Lewis when he was speaking at the last convention. What a disgusting and disrespectful display that was.)

PatrickforO

(14,559 posts)
36. I had my calculation wrong because I did not count the super delegates.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 12:26 PM
Aug 2020

So I got 7.5%. Still....these points being made about this just being another 'Dems in disarray' piece are valid.

Response to PatrickforO (Reply #36)

BComplex

(8,017 posts)
27. Agree! Bass won't help with North Carolina, either. But Elizabeth Warren sure would!!!
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 11:41 AM
Aug 2020

Elizabeth Warren and Joe Biden, together, would be unbeatable!!

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
42. Another small minority of delegates trying to throw their weight around?
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 01:12 PM
Aug 2020

I don't think this group has nearly enough heft to get Biden to choose a VP based on their wishes.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
44. At this point I think she'd be a lead weight what with the Scientology/Castro business.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 01:20 PM
Aug 2020

When you have to start out by explaining the past, it's not a good sign.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
48. She makes an effort to reach out and connect
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 01:36 PM
Aug 2020

That’s how I see the scientology and Cuba business. She supports the new green deal and cosponsored the house M4A bill so she has progressive credentials. I think she’d be a good pick who would help the ticket. Others on the shortlist could barely bring themselves to endorse Biden, or plain old didn’t when it would have mattered. Do they even want the job?

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
52. The right is already pushing the idea that moderate Biden is just a bait-and-switch
Sat Aug 8, 2020, 03:42 AM
Aug 2020

that the real intention is to sideline Biden early on so the "radical leftists" can take over. Obviously that's nonsense, but this stuff will just make it easier for them to push that idea. I also never heard of her until the last couple weeks. Which may be a good thing, considering amongst a certain segment of potential democratic voters, anyone who ran for president who isn't Bernie is an evil snake. Not sure Harris or Warren will make them happy.

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