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riversedge

(70,084 posts)
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 08:48 AM Jul 2020

House Democrats find administration overspent for ventilators by as much as $500 million

Source: nbc




Democrats say the episode raises questions about one of the Trump administration's largest contracts for ventilator production.

July 31, 2020, 4:34 AM CDT / Updated July 31, 2020, 7:11 AM CDT


WASHINGTON — Throughout the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump has repeatedly touted his administration's supply of ventilators, a critical tool for treating patients with life-threatening respiratory symptoms.

But internal emails and documents obtained by Democrats on the House Oversight Committee suggest that the Trump administration failed to enforce an existing contract with a major medical manufacturer, delayed negotiations for more than a month and subsequently overpaid as much as $500 million for tens of thousands of the devices — a costly error at a time when officials from some of the biggest states were warning of shortages.


The communications between administration officials and Philips Respironics, a global medical equipment manufacturer that finalized a $643.5 million contract with the Trump administration in April, are included in a 40-page report shared with NBC News.

The information raises serious concerns about an estimated $3 billion in taxpayer dollars spent on ventilators from a number of suppliers, according to committee staff members who briefed NBC News........................................

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/house-democrats-find-administration-overspent-ventilators-much-500-million-n1235252



out the door go our tax dollars!!



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3. Were asked in Jan. by Philips if they needed more vents. A new contract wasn't cut until April, well after peaks in NY/MI and after govs there were warning of shortages
Heidi Przybyla
@HeidiNBC
4. Deal was negotiated by Peter Navarro, formalized by a former Kushner roommate. Maj. of the correspondence was between Philips and a recent college grad assisting Navarro.

5. Oversight Democrats call this "fleecing" and say the $$ should be clawed back.
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House Democrats find administration overspent for ventilators by as much as $500 million (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2020 OP
Of course they did. Srkdqltr Jul 2020 #1
Of course. rzemanfl Jul 2020 #2
But we were all told what a great businessman Tre45on was. AllyCat Jul 2020 #3
Easy to see how his businesses go bankrupt. World' worst manager. nt NCjack Jul 2020 #11
Raise your hand if u think there is a possibility some NoMoreRepugs Jul 2020 #4
It's gonna' take YEARS to sort out all the kickbacks, laundered money, etc. groundloop Jul 2020 #5
So, where did the kickbacks go? MineralMan Jul 2020 #6
I just wish the reporting would cease on stating 'errors were made' or 'incompetence led to $$ waste' Scalded Nun Jul 2020 #7
The "clawback". One thing govt has done right. oldsoftie Jul 2020 #8
I just heard Heidi talking about this on MSNBC and have yet to lift my jaw back in place. Frustratedlady Jul 2020 #9
At least ventilators can be actually used. LisaL Jul 2020 #10
Well, My Question RobinA Jul 2020 #18
Government contracting has made many a billioinaire over many generations bucolic_frolic Jul 2020 #12
The fArt of the deal... n/t iscooterliberally Jul 2020 #13
To be fair, the potential lack of ventilators was a serious concern at the time, and still is Hoyt Jul 2020 #14
They find efficiencies by making it very slow and very expensive IronLionZion Jul 2020 #15
This will get played, Bayard Jul 2020 #16
Not to count chickens, but the next administration..... mjvpi Jul 2020 #17
Something about that boy Trump ain't right Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Aug 2020 #19

NoMoreRepugs

(9,371 posts)
4. Raise your hand if u think there is a possibility some
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:00 AM
Jul 2020

money made it back towards the RUMP re-election campaign in one form or another.

Grifters gotta grift - Cons gotta con.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
7. I just wish the reporting would cease on stating 'errors were made' or 'incompetence led to $$ waste'
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:13 AM
Jul 2020

This is, and has been, all premeditated activity with only 1 goal in mind...take/grab what you can and fuck everything/everybody else.

oldsoftie

(12,491 posts)
8. The "clawback". One thing govt has done right.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:14 AM
Jul 2020

No more simply scolding or paying a fine. Take BACK the damn money. THEN fine them

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
9. I just heard Heidi talking about this on MSNBC and have yet to lift my jaw back in place.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:17 AM
Jul 2020

I'm sure we are going to find all kinds of these types of shenanigans and it isn't going to be pretty.

Once the election is over, there will be all kinds of scurrying going on in the WH so they can cover up/destroy any evidence possible before Biden moves in. I hope there is a way we can make sure it doesn't happen. Will that "secret hiding place" where Trump hid his Ukraine transcript still be in place and will the transcript still be there?

Wouldn't it be ironic if Trump destroys 30,000 or so emails?

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
10. At least ventilators can be actually used.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 09:30 AM
Jul 2020

How much did they spend on huge amounts of hydroxychloroquine?

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
18. Well, My Question
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:14 AM
Jul 2020

is, Did those ventilators ever exist and did they end up where they could help anybody.

bucolic_frolic

(43,056 posts)
12. Government contracting has made many a billioinaire over many generations
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 10:00 AM
Jul 2020

It's especially good when the apparent regulators, the gatekeepers of requisitioning, are really your friends on the inside and potential campaign contributors.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. To be fair, the potential lack of ventilators was a serious concern at the time, and still is
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 10:08 AM
Jul 2020

in many areas of the country.

I don't doubt that trump's incompetent admin screwed it up worse than it needed to be. But, time was running out, critics and the media was pushing that thousands were going to die without ventilators, etc.

Now, if they find that Kush and his buddies got direct or indirect kickbacks, that's different.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
15. They find efficiencies by making it very slow and very expensive
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 10:17 AM
Jul 2020

since their first priority is always for grifters to get rich and their second priority is for Americans to die quickly.

We must all do our part. Sacrifices must be made. America needs you to die for your country.

Bayard

(22,005 posts)
16. This will get played,
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 10:55 AM
Jul 2020

As Democrats don't want you to have ventilators.

"A former Kushner roommate", was in on this deal. Unsurprising.

mjvpi

(1,387 posts)
17. Not to count chickens, but the next administration.....
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 11:01 AM
Jul 2020

..... can’t just make nice and start the healing. Things need to be exposed and people need o be held accountable. Not just fined. If someone can go to jail for shoplifting, there should be proportional punishment for profiteering during a pandemic. We made that mistake after the Bush administration.

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