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riversedge

(70,442 posts)
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:28 AM Jul 2020

Thousands protest in downtown Portland Monday; federal officers again respond with force

Source: OregonLive


Updated Jul 21, 2020; Posted Jul 20, 2020


Portland Protests continue for 54th night

By Ted Sickinger| The Oregonian/OregonLive and Alex Hardgrave | The Oregonian/OregonLive

Portland parent groups marched in droves to Monday night to join downtown protests in response to the repeated and nightly use of force by federal agents on demonstrators.

Portlanders first started protesting police violence against Black Americans in late May. It wasn’t until 31 days later that federal officers were first seen at the nightly demonstrations. In the weeks since, federal agents have used less-lethal munitions and gas on protesters numerous times.

Federal officers again set off gas and shot projectiles towards demonstrators gathered early Tuesday morning. The nearly hour-long confrontation began after midnight. Hundreds of people had packed into the courthouse entrance, and some people near the front line tore off plywood attached to the building. Federal officers responded in force.

Their actions have drawn scrutiny from Oregon officials and support from President Donald Trump. The president again praised federal law enforcement Monday, saying they were doing a fantastic job in Portland. Trump said he planned to replicate the response in other major U.S. cities led by Democratic mayors.

Monday night’s demonstrations started around 9 p.m. Two groups, called the Wall of Moms and PDXDadPod, marched from the riverfront to Justice Center. The jail is at the heart of nightly protests. Two federal buildings sit on either side of it.

Even before the parents’ groups arrived, more than 300 people had gathered near the downtown jail. Young Black community leaders used a megaphone to ask, “Whose lives matter?” Hundreds of people responded, “Black lives matter!”

The crowd roared when the parents’ march of several hundreds of people arrived just before 9 p.m. and joined the chant. Most were women wearing yellow shirts. One person held a sign that said, “Hey feds, you need to think about your sad choices — Mom.”......................................

Read more: https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/07/portland-protests-continue-for-54th-night-amid-controversy-surrounding-federal-officers-presence.html











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Moms and dads assemble to protect Portland protesters


https://www.koin.com/news/protests/portland-protests-justice-center-federal-courthouse-night-53/


"We are there for the long haul," said one mom

by: Hannah Ray Lambert, Jacquelyn Abad

Posted: Jul 20, 2020 / 07:54 PM PDT / Updated: Jul 20, 2020 / 11:19 PM PDT

PORTLAND, Ore. (KOIN) — Portland’s parents have to come to the aid of protesters as the city heads into its 53rd consecutive night of demonstrations against systemic racism and police.

The self-described Wall of Moms lined the fence around the Mark O. Hatfield Federal Courthouse Sunday evening in an effort to protect protesters. It was the group’s second appearance at the downtown demonstrations. Several of the moms also helped people wash their eyes after federal officers deployed tear gas and other crowd-control munitions.

They can now be found on social media at @WallofMoms.

“We come out here in yellow and large numbers,” said Edie, a protester. ...........................



A Worried Citizen
@ThePubliusUSA
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The moms in Portland are truly inspirational.


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Thousands protest in downtown Portland Monday; federal officers again respond with force (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2020 OP
This protester persistence is great! ananda Jul 2020 #1
Gosh, some of the scenes remind me of pictures of the great . . Iliyah Jul 2020 #2
Except there are far more white people involved in today's demonstrations. iemitsu Jul 2020 #38
need to find where the Federal agents are being housed and bring the protest to those beachbumbob Jul 2020 #3
Definitely not a Holiday Inn Express. gab13by13 Jul 2020 #4
Probably staying at a Gordon Sondland establishment. iemitsu Jul 2020 #39
Yeah.... FarPoint Jul 2020 #5
The ONLY LEGAL Excuse Trump has..... louzke9 Jul 2020 #12
Are we sure these unidentified men are Federal agents? yellerpup Jul 2020 #16
DHS has confirmed they are feds nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #18
Considering the daily.... Wuddles440 Jul 2020 #21
I agree - I don't think he is at home in his rocking chair watching Fox 'News' ArizonaLib Jul 2020 #24
Any evidence? Let's try and stay in the reality based community please. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #31
Here ya go ... reality. KPN Jul 2020 #53
"It's almost a certainty that Prince is the man behind the curtain" EX500rider Jul 2020 #49
Feds deputized two days ago from Prince's merry bands of thugs? Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #22
Any evidence? Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #30
On this specific point, no evidence, purely idle speculation. Hence careful use of question mark. nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #36
Bingo!! Rachel just had the previous DHS head on the show and he confirmed that the mitch96 Jul 2020 #50
Is DHSA believable? KPN Jul 2020 #32
Any evidence to the contrary? Let's try and stay in the reality based community nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #40
Talk about staying in the reality based community! Geesh! KPN Jul 2020 #41
This administration is brazenly Open about their crimes Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #44
My point. KPN Jul 2020 #48
With all due respect... Wuddles440 Jul 2020 #45
What is the motivation to falsely claim invaders in Portland are CBP/DHS agents? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #47
read today that they are not Feds but contract people from Blackwater and other Demsrule86 Jul 2020 #54
"I know this is tin-foil-y" mitch96 Jul 2020 #29
That would be just what this administration is looking for. yellerpup Jul 2020 #37
Is there a trump hotel in Portland? Bayard Jul 2020 #17
No. Butthere's a couple of Gordon Sondland hotels. KPN Jul 2020 #33
Any Trump hotels near Portland? thecrow Jul 2020 #23
well, the Port FD said the Feds could not use their parking lot as a staging area anymore....... riversedge Jul 2020 #46
Why ? eppur_se_muova Jul 2020 #6
trump/gop trying to create an election issue, no more, no less beachbumbob Jul 2020 #13
Destruction of property mike1977 Jul 2020 #15
The irony is these protests were about to peter out when the feds showed up. SunSeeker Jul 2020 #7
Moms and Dads by smart phone lights........... riversedge Jul 2020 #8
Wonder what the... Maxheader Jul 2020 #9
"Send the city cops and arrest the lot.." jaxexpat Jul 2020 #26
I think the city police union asked for the feds... dhill926 Jul 2020 #35
Do Police Unions have this power? LeftInTX Jul 2020 #42
that is indeed the question.... dhill926 Jul 2020 #43
"nightly use of force by federal agents on demonstrators. " mitch96 Jul 2020 #10
Trump has ultimate control over NG nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #19
What if they refuse??? Take 'em to court? he will be out b4 the legal stuff comes to pass...nt mitch96 Jul 2020 #28
Arrest the vans taking folks from protests JT45242 Jul 2020 #11
I wish you were in charge. SharonClark Jul 2020 #14
That's too complicated- how about just slashing the tires on the van? Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #20
As a generality, Portland police are tainted. I saw them up close and personal dealing with KPN Jul 2020 #34
their actions have "drawn scrutiny." DarleenMB Jul 2020 #25
The butthole t-RUMP has woken the sleeping GIANT of Mom's n Dad's protecting their young. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2020 #27
America needs a Coup right now! We need Vets for Peace to storm the White House annm4peace Jul 2020 #51
That escalated quickly usajumpedtheshark Jul 2020 #52

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
38. Except there are far more white people involved in today's demonstrations.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jul 2020

The only thing that gives me any hope of success.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
3. need to find where the Federal agents are being housed and bring the protest to those
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 08:34 AM
Jul 2020

establishments. with lots of videos and pictures

louzke9

(296 posts)
12. The ONLY LEGAL Excuse Trump has.....
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:38 AM
Jul 2020

to send troops UNINVITED by local authorities is to PROTECT federal property. So don't give Trump ANY excuse to use those agents. Protest day and night, but stay away from federal property. That just plays right into Trump's hand. Its a campaign ploy/publicity stunt CRAFTED by Trump. A SCARE TACTIC to convince voters Trump is the "Law and Order" President and the only one who can stop the looting and property damage we see in videos. Don't play along and his stunt FAILS.

yellerpup

(12,254 posts)
16. Are we sure these unidentified men are Federal agents?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:59 AM
Jul 2020

Or are they an Eric Prince unit in disguise? Could this be a tryout for a private army? I know this is tin-foil-y but why aren't they identified?

Wuddles440

(1,135 posts)
21. Considering the daily....
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jul 2020

deluge of lies from this administration and its cabal of criminals, can you really trust the veracity of such a statement? It's almost a certainty that Prince is the man behind the curtain - at the very least he's responsible for planning and coordinating these operations.

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
24. I agree - I don't think he is at home in his rocking chair watching Fox 'News'
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:56 AM
Jul 2020

Prince has been busiest under Trump and anyone or any organization can be paid federal money and called a 'federal resource'. I hope no one is making the mistake of believing anything that comes out of this administration.

EX500rider

(10,891 posts)
49. "It's almost a certainty that Prince is the man behind the curtain"
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jul 2020

Somehow i doubt DHS/Border Patrol Swat teams take orders their from him. They do have a chain of command.

mitch96

(13,942 posts)
50. Bingo!! Rachel just had the previous DHS head on the show and he confirmed that the
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:07 PM
Jul 2020

Govt protection squad are contractors. Like you said Eric Prince comes to mind.. tRump appointed DeVos is sister to Eric Prince..
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Fiendish Thingy

(15,703 posts)
44. This administration is brazenly Open about their crimes
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:07 PM
Jul 2020

Plenty of evidence right out in the open without resorting to Q-Anon style CT.

Wuddles440

(1,135 posts)
45. With all due respect...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:19 PM
Jul 2020

What's your "evidence" that Cuccinelli is being truthful about the affiliation of these paramilitary personnel? Thirty years of serving in federal law enforcement tells me he's lying...that and the over 20,000 false statements that have spewed from the lips of the Orange Anus. Some advice - it's hazardous to your health and welfare to live in the "reality' that they've created. Trust nothing from this administration!

Fiendish Thingy

(15,703 posts)
47. What is the motivation to falsely claim invaders in Portland are CBP/DHS agents?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jul 2020

What purpose would it serve to lie about the affiliation of the Portland invaders? To say they are CBP when they are actually Erik Prince’s mercenaries?

Please note the recently leaked Internal memo from Chad Wolf stating his officers aren’t trained to handle crowd control - why would he lie in a private memo if the paramilitary agents in Portland weren’t actually his agents?

Like I said, despite Trump’s thousands of lies, this administration is brazenly Open about their crimes.

Demsrule86

(68,788 posts)
54. read today that they are not Feds but contract people from Blackwater and other
Thu Jul 23, 2020, 07:02 PM
Jul 2020

security firms...explains their roid rage.

mitch96

(13,942 posts)
29. "I know this is tin-foil-y"
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 11:39 AM
Jul 2020

I'm not tin floil-y either and it makes perfect sense to me.. Contractors get away with murder..
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eppur_se_muova

(36,317 posts)
6. Why ?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:02 AM
Jul 2020

Why respond with force ?

People have a right to protest. Only an authoritarian government responds in knee-jerk fashion by oppressing dissent. Outside of protecting statues of traitors and racists, what's the excuse for trying to impose "control" by brute force ? If this is the only way our government can respond, we need a new government.

mike1977

(7 posts)
15. Destruction of property
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:59 AM
Jul 2020

They started tearing/destroying the courthouse by tearing off plywood and a fence. We have a right to peacefully protest, but not a right to destroy property.

SunSeeker

(51,797 posts)
7. The irony is these protests were about to peter out when the feds showed up.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:03 AM
Jul 2020

What started out as a George Floyd/ BLM protest is now an enlarged anti-Trump protest. Good going Orange Anus!

Maxheader

(4,374 posts)
9. Wonder what the...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:08 AM
Jul 2020

neighborhood, township, city, state authorities think about this fed infestation?

The mayor...can he order them out?...the governor? Send the city cops and arrest the lot..

Criminal behavior...at least, citizen assault....

jaxexpat

(6,878 posts)
26. "Send the city cops and arrest the lot.."
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jul 2020

Were that to happen it would be a milestone, a true game changer.

dhill926

(16,387 posts)
35. I think the city police union asked for the feds...
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:24 PM
Jul 2020

same in Chicago. They're not gonna help, they're part of the problem...

mitch96

(13,942 posts)
10. "nightly use of force by federal agents on demonstrators. "
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:27 AM
Jul 2020

Ok a hypothetical question.... What if the governor called out the national guard to protect the citizens of Portland from the feds?????? One NG troop, one mom...One NG troop, one mom...One NG troop, one mom...One NG troop, one mom...One NG troop, one mom...
How far would the feds go?
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JT45242

(2,314 posts)
11. Arrest the vans taking folks from protests
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 09:35 AM
Jul 2020

There is a relatively simple way to stop this.

When a van takes anyone, the local police immediately step in and arrest the drivers.

State charges then are issued with arraignment the next morning
1) Aggravated kidnapping (or whatever the local version is when a firearm is used)
2) Firearms charges
3) Aggravated assault (again throw in a firearm add on)
4) Impersonating a police officer

They can add more. Make certain that they are looking at multiple decades in jail each.

One guy in the car will be allowed to flip for lesser charges if he can produce a written order or email that told them to (a) go to where they were not originally assigned (b) gave them the authority to kidnap civilians. No written orders and they are a rogue force of vigilantes. With written orders that are a violation of their oaths, they should face federal charges as well (we know that won't happen, but it will blow holes in the 'law and order' narrative for what it is: White supremacist rhetoric.)

Then you arrest the guy who issued the order for the above charges and add conspiracy charges at the state level as well. And work your way up the chain. There is little incentive for these guys not to flip all the way up to Barr and whatever sleaze is involved because they will all be state charges with no pardons.

If Erik Prince and his international mercenaries are involved, you may be able to turn some of them over to interpol after they are done serving their very long sentences in Pennsylvania, Oregon, Illinois etc.

Also tell them that the state will be helping the victims with any and all lawsuits regarding their treatment. So every pension dollar they ever earned will be going to victims, their cars, homes, college funds. Make it very public so that if any of these goons wants to follow illegal orders they will know that the costs to themselves and their families will be incalculable.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,703 posts)
20. That's too complicated- how about just slashing the tires on the van?
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:19 AM
Jul 2020

How would you get the van to wait for police to come arrest them?

KPN

(15,677 posts)
34. As a generality, Portland police are tainted. I saw them up close and personal dealing with
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 12:21 PM
Jul 2020

protesters during the Occupy movement while on a business trip to Portland. They were aggressive and took physical action at the slightest provocation. For example, I was standing next to a young protester who stepped off the sidewalk curb with one foot (don't know whether intentionally or accidentally) and two police decked out in black military-like gear knocked him to the pavement immediately, shoved him face down and handcuffed him. After kneeling on him 10 or 15 seconds they yanked him up by his arms and hauled him to a paddy wagon. That was just one incident, the closest at hand that I saw that evening. The crowd was peaceful, banging pots and drums and doing chants. There was no real provocation by the crowd that I witnessed.

At any rate, I doubt whether the Portland Police as a whole will or wold step in on the side of these protesters. Perhaps there are some good ones, but as a whole, no.

DarleenMB

(408 posts)
25. their actions have "drawn scrutiny."
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 10:59 AM
Jul 2020

Well BFD. I want to know WHY the Governor of Oregon and the Congressional representatives and the state legislature have not activated the OREGON NATIONAL GUARD and sent them in to Portland to round up these unidentified, uniformed thugs and jailed every last freaking one of them!

The fact that OUR federal government has invaded one of the States has my hair on fire.

Every time I think trump can't sink any lower he proves me wrong. He is not going to stop until he burns the entire country down.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,507 posts)
27. The butthole t-RUMP has woken the sleeping GIANT of Mom's n Dad's protecting their young.
Tue Jul 21, 2020, 11:14 AM
Jul 2020

He has really - I mean really FUCKED UP this time. Go to Chicago or NYC DonnieShit4Brains- I double-dog dare ya' - you will not believe what's waiting for you.

annm4peace

(6,119 posts)
51. America needs a Coup right now! We need Vets for Peace to storm the White House
Wed Jul 22, 2020, 02:05 AM
Jul 2020

What the heck is wrong with Americans??? Haven't we learned about how Hitler came to power?
The solution is to make sure to vote??? Are you kidding me???

Maybe I missed a post or video about it, but Where are the Veterans for Peace members (who aren't protesting in Portland already) ?

The high ranking Veterans for Peace, former State Dept Heads, Generals, Intelligence Officers, Dept of Justice heads, etc.. should be forming a Coup. They should be headed to the White House, the Justice Dept, and CDC.
They should physically remove Trump and his administration and replace Trump with Rep Pelosi and former common sense officials for the other positions, and Dept Heads. And immediately have a group remove the top CDC person and replace them with former CDC...get rid of any residue of Trump.

I'm a peace activist so I don't want any military control but would love Vets for Peace to come in and clean house.

No, Voting isn't gonna save us in time, and it is a joke to think it will.

I wish ret. Lt General Russel Honore and ret. Col Ann Wright would stage a Coup tomorrow.

I'm tired and done with all the previous Dept Heads on CNN and MSNBC being interviewed and writing Opinion pieces.. we need action now.

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