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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,412 posts)
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:35 AM Jul 2020

Harvard, MIT Sue Trump Administration Over International-Student Policy

Source: The Wall Street Journal.

Harvard, MIT Sue Trump Administration Over International-Student Policy
Policy forbids international students from staying in U.S. if classes are taught entirely online

By Michelle Hackman and Melissa Korn
July 8, 2020 9:23 am ET

Harvard and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology sued the Trump administration on Wednesday over its new policy barring international students from coming to or remaining in the U.S. if their classes are taught entirely online.

The suit, filed in the U.S. District Court in Boston, alleges that the new policy issued by Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which overturned guidance universities had been given in the spring, came with no notice and was "arbitrary and capricious."

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Breaking: Harvard and MIT sued the Trump administration over its new policy barring international students from coming to or remaining in the U.S. if their classes are taught entirely online


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Harvard, MIT Sue Trump Administration Over International-Student Policy (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 OP
Every University should join them. C_U_L8R Jul 2020 #1
other universities need to follow suit or join their class action onetexan Jul 2020 #2
Yeah, tie it up at least soothsayer Jul 2020 #3
Harvard and MIT have DEEP pockets, huge foundations to help fund this. redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #4
"The order came down without notice--its cruelty surpassed only by its recklessness," FailureToCommunicate Jul 2020 #5
Why would we put them at risk by coming here? OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2020 #6
$$$ MiniMe Jul 2020 #7
The problem with this... is it really a "new policy"? FBaggins Jul 2020 #8

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
4. Harvard and MIT have DEEP pockets, huge foundations to help fund this.
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 09:50 AM
Jul 2020

Most universities around the country, especially state funded ones, have already had to raid their foundations to help keep them afloat during this period of hating education. State legislatures have been cutting higher ed for over 20 years, since Reagan so they don't have the money to fight this. I'm glad MIT and Harvard are doing it for the sake of everyone.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,013 posts)
5. "The order came down without notice--its cruelty surpassed only by its recklessness,"
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:01 AM
Jul 2020

...University President Lawrence Bacow wrote in an email to affiliates. “We believe that the ICE order is bad public policy, and we believe that it is illegal.”


“As a university with a profound commitment to residential education, we hope and intend to resume full in-person instruction as soon as it is safe and responsible to do so,” Bacow wrote. “But, until that time comes, we will not stand by to see our international students’ dreams extinguished by a deeply misguided order. We owe it to them to stand up and to fight—and we will.”

More here:

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2020/7/8/harvard-mit-sue-immigration-authorities/

OneCrazyDiamond

(2,031 posts)
6. Why would we put them at risk by coming here?
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:11 AM
Jul 2020

The USA is a Covid cesspool right now, and a lot of people expect a second larger wave. It is good to shutdown non-essential travel, especially international travel. As long as they can still take the coarse for credit online.

FBaggins

(26,729 posts)
8. The problem with this... is it really a "new policy"?
Wed Jul 8, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jul 2020

Isn't it already the case that online-only students do not qualify for a student visa to be in the country?

If so... I think it's much harder to argue that the failure to change an existing policy is "arbitrary". I guess the question will be to what extent "guidance" can be considered as binding the policy-making body.

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