Trump cheated on his SATs by paying someone to take it for him, according to Mary Trump's new book
Source: Business Insider
Jake Lahut and Oma Seddiq 29 minutes ago
President Donald Trump cheated on his SATs, according to a forthcoming book from his niece.
Mary Trump writes in her tell-all book that Trump paid a proxy to take the SAT for him.
'The high score the proxy earned for him, Ms. Trump adds, helped the young Mr. Trump to later gain admittance as an undergraduate to the University of Pennsylvania's prestigious Wharton business school," according to the New York Times, who first reported on the passage.
A request for comment from Insider was not immediately returned by Wharton.
Although Trump hounded then-President Barack Obama for not turning over his college transcripts, he has never revealed any similar information about his time at Wharton, where he claims he graduated first in his class.
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Initech
(100,139 posts)He is a complete garbage person in and out.
Evolve Dammit
(16,817 posts)greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)College entrance was far more limited until open admissions in the early 70s.
Evolve Dammit
(16,817 posts)lkinwi
(1,477 posts)rzemanfl
(29,581 posts)refute Drumpf's claim? Or did Drumpf pay him off?
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Add him to the list of people our side should try to track down, along with "Katie Johnson" and various other of Trump's victims.
exboyfil
(17,865 posts)Does anyone have a bulletin from the graduation ceremony? Usually the summa cum laude's are listed. A reporter could call down the list (of course the bulletin itself would prove the point).
wishstar
(5,272 posts)deurbano
(2,896 posts)that at this point!)
Maraya1969
(22,509 posts)at the ime.
CanonRay
(14,141 posts)RockRaven
(15,076 posts)I recall people posting images of it during the campaign. A separate section of names were listed as graduating with honors. His name was not among them. His name was in the other, larger section of graduates. He could not possibly have been at the top of his class if anyone graduated with honors and he did not. Additionally, by having a whole section of people who graduated with honors that program shows he wasn't even close.
rzemanfl
(29,581 posts)Jim__
(14,094 posts)From Philly Mag:
The program for the commencement ceremony lists the names of students who graduated from Wharton with honors cum laude, magna cum laude, summa cum laude and Donald Trump isnt among them. Nor is his name included on the Deans List published in 1968 by the Daily Pennsylvanian. Given that colleges and universities are prohibited by law from releasing transcripts to anyone other than the student in question, and that Trump has purportedly forbidden the school to do so, well have to rely on proof by omission that Trump didnt graduate with any academic distinction whatsoever.
Trump himself finally copped to this in a 1988 New York magazine story written by Julie Baumgold. Okay, maybe not first, as myth has it, Baumgold wrote, but he had the highest grades possible.
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rzemanfl
(29,581 posts)Interesting that someone with the "highest grades possible" would not receive some honor. What a lying POS he is.
3catwoman3
(24,109 posts)...the highest grades possible for someone of his limited intellect- Cs and Ds probably.
Wounded Bear
(58,773 posts)and generous donors get.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Beartracks
(12,835 posts)============
Judi Lynn
(160,662 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,773 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)Dump's the name, fraud's the game.
Brother Buzz
(36,498 posts)The proxy test taker swims with the fish.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Link to tweet
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Lonestarblue
(10,155 posts)The terms are cum laude, summa cum laude, and magna cum laude. Trump is not in the list of those honors graduates, which means he was not first in his class. His name is merely in the list of graduatesno honors.
Trump lies about everything, even those things that are easily proven to be lies. He knows his rabid right-wing supporters arent smart enough to look this up for themselves. They all know he lies, but they worship him anyway.
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FM123
(10,054 posts)They knew he didn't have what it takes, and he knew they knew that. Explains a lot.
yonder
(9,685 posts)"He knew they knew". What a tortured gloop of goop he is.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)ID check in the exam room was a joke. The way most people who did this got caught was through the signature match - most high schoolers didn't understand that a signature match would be applied, especially if your score went up by more than expected for a second test, or was exceptionally high in the first place. I know three people who paid to have the SAT taken for them, and they all were disqualified for signature match - this was 1990-1992.
I'd expect it was even easier and more common in the mid-to-late 1960s, especially with the draft and Vietnam. Understand that having somebody take SATs for you is another form of draft evasion - if he could not have gotten into Fordham (not a particularly high bar), he might have been out everywhere, and there goes his draft exemption.
no_hypocrisy
(46,297 posts)who was a friend of his older brother, Fred Jr.
Trump initially was enrolled in Fordham University in the Bronx.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Wonder if the White House has received its copy yet?
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,260 posts)things. Absolutely no one (even his base) will believe any denials he will spew forth.
Traildogbob
(8,884 posts)Donny never pays his bills. maybe he conned some one else to pay.
RockRaven
(15,076 posts)And Fred Sr did have a reputation for actually paying up -- when it came to bailing out his idiot son.
Traildogbob
(8,884 posts)Was worth the cost to Freddy to cover up the image his son is a freakin idiot. Like Donald, Fred was looking out for his own benefit. I hate em all, but you know when it all gets exposed, and even GOP cuts ties, Baron is gonna have a lot of hell to pay, for em all.
maxsolomon
(33,449 posts)Were there even SATs in 1963?
bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,927 posts)The original idea behind was, as I understand, to give students (meaning males) who didn't already attend an East Coast prep school with a direct line to admissions, a chance to get into elite schools.
Maxheader
(4,374 posts)that paid to get their kids into prestigious schools? Had
bogus test scores...achievements..etc...
KS Toronado
(17,450 posts)iluvtennis
(19,905 posts)donations.
bucolic_frolic
(43,476 posts)Why do anything if you can get a stunt man for the job?
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,476 posts)AZ8theist
(5,531 posts)It was HIM!! I know it for a fact since he EARNED a "Bowling Participation Trophy"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Soxfan58
(3,479 posts)left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)"To hedge his bets he enlisted Joe Shapiro, a smart kid with a reputation for being a good test taker, to take his SATs for him," Mary Trump wrote. "That was much easier to pull off in the days before photo IDs and computerized records."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/07/mary-trump-tell-all-book-depicts-president-inept-habitual-liar/5390286002/
Grins
(7,258 posts)Got someone to take his SATs?
Maybe. Would not surprise me.
But his SAT scores would have gone to Fordham, not Wharton.
Trump transferred from Fordham (Fordham: Whew!) to Wharton. His transcript records would include his SAT scores from his last year in high school. Pretty sure Wharton, or any other school, would not ask him to retake them on a transfer.
gab13by13
(21,487 posts)doesn't cut it with me. I want to see the diploma, the long form diploma.
Paladin
(28,283 posts)And then I want a very public cancellation of President Scumbag's college degree.
Thank you, Mary Trump.
BamaRefugee
(3,488 posts)smarter than doing it yourself.
I mean they always happen on a Saturday, at least back in my day, why waste a round of golf by sitting in an exam room?
benld74
(9,911 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)mwb970
(11,373 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(14,860 posts)He cheated throughout college too, no doubt.
Midnight Writer
(21,845 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)turbinetree
(24,745 posts)so if that is the case then his diploma's from everything is/ are just as worthless has he is...............
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)will he confirm he story? Oh, pleasepleasepleaseplease....
musclecar6
(1,693 posts)Trump cheated by having somebody else take his SATs !?!?!?!?!?!? You Gotta be kidding me !!!!! I can not tell a lie Donald !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
WestLosAngelesGal
(268 posts)... his resignation in which he will admit that he can barely read, and as a disabled learner, should not be prosecuted for his crimes.
Cha
(298,017 posts)ASSHOLES.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,429 posts)But unfortunately that seems to be a plus with some people.
jcgoldie
(11,657 posts)Shit I never really thought about, but if I did... would just assume it to be true based on mountains if circumstantial evidence.
sandensea
(21,713 posts)i.e. A,B,C,D,E,D,C,B,A...
Whether there was any truth to that, I don't know.
But at least he sat down and took it.
markwbradley
(20 posts)If one habitually cheats in one aspect of his or her life, it tends to bleed over into other parts. Speaking as a former member of my high school golf team, I had occasion to witness this sort of cheating behavior from other players, whether it was moving their ball from the rough into the fairway when they thought no one was looking, taking multiple mulligans (some even on the fairway as well as off the tee), or picking up their golf ball from the green, 13 feet away from the cup, and calling it a gimme. To fellow teammates (or even other members of a friendly foursome), watching someone repeatedly indulge in these sorts of unfair advantages tends to breed contempt on the part of ones fellows.
According to several high-profile celebrity golfers who have had the pleasure of golfing with President Trump, he regularly employs each of these shady tactics (as well as countless others), to enhance his score, and thereby beat (at all costs) his opponents.
Cheat at golf, cheat on your SATs. Cheat in business, cheat on your wives. Duplicity can be a powerful tool (or should I say weapon?) in the hands of a sociopath like The Donald. But it never works forever. Eventually, the bill comes due. Prepare to pay up, Donny Boy.
riversedge
(70,441 posts)Last year, Penn instituted a policy of revoking degrees if a graduate is found to have provided false information in an admission application, cheated on an exam, or tampered with records.
https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-cheated-on-his-sat-penn-wharton-mary-trump-2020-7
Trump cheated on his SAT by paying someone to take it for him, according to Mary Trump's new book
Xolodno
(6,410 posts)...then he no doubt did some unscrupulous things during his classes.