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Judi Lynn

(160,527 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:49 PM Jul 2020

Mississippi bans abortion based on race, sex, genetic issues

Source: Associated Press


Emily Wagster Pettus, Associated Press
Updated 8:26 pm CDT, Wednesday, July 1, 2020

JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — Mississippi Republican Gov. Tate Reeves signed a law Wednesday that bans abortion based on the race, sex or genetic anomalies of a fetus, adding new limits in a state that already has some of the strictest abortion laws in the U.S.

Supporters say the new law would prevent abortion for Down syndrome or other conditions.

“Women should not be pressured to have an abortion because their child is different: of a different ability, of a different race, of a different sex,” Jameson Taylor, vice president for policy with the Mississippi Center for Public Policy, said in a statement Wednesday.

Opponents said it would unconstitutionally interfere with private medical decisions in a state with one abortion clinic.

Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/article/Mississippi-bans-abortion-based-on-race-sex-15381112.php

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Mississippi bans abortion based on race, sex, genetic issues (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jul 2020 OP
Who do these men think they are? Warpy Jul 2020 #1
Well, all the pictures they see of "God" is Miguelito Loveless Jul 2020 #16
My response to Reeves & Taylor Nevilledog Jul 2020 #25
Who are these women that are proclaiming they're going to abort... PTWB Jul 2020 #2
I bet the fundigelical women would be lining up for abortions not_the_one Jul 2020 #3
I wondered about that too. Jedi Guy Jul 2020 #12
And if the clinic does know, it doesn't have to list her reason. CTyankee Jul 2020 #18
Yep. This is undoubtedly one of those laws that they enacted knowing it'd be stuck down. Jedi Guy Jul 2020 #20
redneck religious talk for ban abortion at any cost. nt yaesu Jul 2020 #4
Kickin' with disgust! Faux pas Jul 2020 #5
As I like to say, if you don't believe in abortion, then don't have one. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #6
Maybe a new Mississippi motto? usajumpedtheshark Jul 2020 #7
That's not just for Mississippi. Dem2theMax Jul 2020 #8
Not even then Major Nikon Jul 2020 #15
The worst part is they think they are doing a good thing madeup64 Jul 2020 #9
I have a child with severe birth defects. Several times during the years demigoddess Jul 2020 #22
This will be challenged... louzke9 Jul 2020 #10
It's not intended to stop women. eggplant Jul 2020 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Jul 2020 #11
Back to being Mississippi RussBLib Jul 2020 #13
Last I knew women were not being pressured to have an abortion. LiberalFighter Jul 2020 #14
Somewhat mixed thoughts here. mwooldri Jul 2020 #19
When was my wife was pregnant with my oldest son, we got back a test... NNadir Jul 2020 #21
amen. demigoddess Jul 2020 #23
Exactly. And if they can tell you the circumstances Ilsa Jul 2020 #26
Free, on demand, without apology. Nothing less. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #24

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
1. Who do these men think they are?
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 12:05 AM
Jul 2020

Gods?

Uh, no, they don't get to decide to force a woman through pregnancy and childbirth to produce a child whose time can be measured in hours or days and/or who will eat up all the family's resources with the kind of care a severely damaged child will require. Taking all that on has to be a choice and the one person who has no voice in it is some idiot politician with a religious bug up his ass.

I hope this one will be struck down in record time. I hope Taylor's career goes with it.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
2. Who are these women that are proclaiming they're going to abort...
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 12:08 AM
Jul 2020

Because their baby is the “wrong” race or sex?

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
3. I bet the fundigelical women would be lining up for abortions
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 12:11 AM
Jul 2020

if they could actually locate that damned GAY gene.

Jedi Guy

(3,186 posts)
12. I wondered about that too.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 07:24 AM
Jul 2020

Also, how do they plan to determine and enforce this law? All a hypothetical woman seeking an abortion has to do is assert that she doesn't wish to have a child. Do they plan to make her pinky promise that she's not getting an abortion for the "wrong" reason(s)?

Jedi Guy

(3,186 posts)
20. Yep. This is undoubtedly one of those laws that they enacted knowing it'd be stuck down.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 01:13 PM
Jul 2020

The intent is to nibble around the edges, working towards the core. As someone else on the thread said, "If you don't like abortions, don't get one." I'll add, "And mind your own business." Alas, live-and-let-live seems to have gone out of fashion.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
15. Not even then
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 09:48 AM
Jul 2020

Fun fact: Mississippi has the highest infant mortality rate in the nation. How many of them give a shit about funding pre-natal care in areas with high infant mortality rates?

They are forced birthers who want to impose their idea of morality on others.

madeup64

(257 posts)
9. The worst part is they think they are doing a good thing
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 01:42 AM
Jul 2020

Now a women who learns her child has severe birth defects is forced to give birth to the child and wait for it to die? Or worse watch it die?

I just find it hard to believe that if God exists he would want this to happen. I think he would prefer legislation that created free prenatal care facilities for women instead.

No one is pressuring women to get abortions! So disgusting. Acting like medical care providers are out soliciting abortions.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
22. I have a child with severe birth defects. Several times during the years
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:15 PM
Jul 2020

I would be accosted on the street about how I 'made' it happen. Even my husbands family. Also one school, they put butcher paper over the windows so normal kids in the school did not have to see the retarded kids. Parents were treated like trash. That was pro-life!

louzke9

(296 posts)
10. This will be challenged...
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 02:17 AM
Jul 2020

in court and the law will be struck down. Secondly, abortion is legal, how can they prove anything? Mississippi has NO LEGAL RIGHT/access to medical information. By federal law, medical records ARE PRIVATE. Is Mississippi going to post police at every abortion clinic, doctors' office or hospital? If a woman wants an abortion, how does Mississippi prove that decision is based on race and/or the other reasons? Abortion is legal, NO MATTER the reason.

eggplant

(3,911 posts)
17. It's not intended to stop women.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 10:21 AM
Jul 2020

It's meant to threaten doctors who perform abortions, and thus close down the one remaining clinic.

Response to Judi Lynn (Original post)

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
19. Somewhat mixed thoughts here.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 11:22 AM
Jul 2020

In some cultures there is pressure to abort based on the fact that a foetus isn't male. The idea that a pregnant woman wants to terminate a pregnancy simply because the foetus is female is something I have trouble wrapping my head around.

I don't know why anyone would seek an abortion based on the race of the foetus. That seems nonsensical to me. A loving biracial couple who wanted a child together wouldn't care on "race". Other pregnancies would generally be terminated on more fundamental grounds; race wouldn't be part of the equation.

For genetic abnormalities - that seems way too broad. Some genetic abnormalities are so horrendous that the foetus will not be viable as a child. Others can be treated and/or lived with.

Ultimately the abortion decision is between patient and doctor. In any case I can see this new law being struck down in... 3... 2... 1... because it's badly written and there are better ways to make abortion rare

NNadir

(33,516 posts)
21. When was my wife was pregnant with my oldest son, we got back a test...
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jul 2020

...that indicated he had a better than 25% chance of having a syndrome, Edward's syndrome, trisomy 18, which is nearly always fatal within the first five years of life, and often results in spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) before the fetus comes to term.

Fortunately the genetic test came back negative and normal. As it was, he was born with a worrying birth defect, but one quite manageable. He's 25 and he's a great joy to me.

The time waiting for that test was traumatic. I'd be damned if I would be willing to let some dumb shit Republican redneck bastard to be a participant in the decisions that needed to be made at that time.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
26. Exactly. And if they can tell you the circumstances
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jul 2020

Under which you cannot abort, then they can force an abortion on you when it is clear a child will eventually become dependent on the state.

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