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alp227

(32,005 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 08:36 PM Jul 2020

Newsom orders new shutdown of restaurants, other indoor business in 19 California counties

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

SACRAMENTO — Gov. Gavin Newsom ordered 19 counties with surging coronavirus outbreaks to close indoor restaurants, wineries, movie theaters and other venues Wednesday, saying California must act to keep the pandemic from spiraling out of control.

Newsom said the state has directed counties on its “watch list” — those with spiking numbers of new cases and hospitalizations — to reimpose parts of stay-at-home orders that had been lifted starting in May, when California appeared to have flattened the curve of infections. His directive came as the state warned that the virus could spread from family gatherings on the Fourth of July weekend.

In the Bay Area, the list includes Contra Costa, Santa Clara and Solano counties.

[...]

Combined, the 19 counties include nearly three-fourths of California’s population. Besides the Bay Area counties, they include Los Angeles, Orange, Sacramento, Stanislaus, Fresno, Glenn, Imperial, Kern, Kings, Merced, Riverside, San Bernardino, San Joaquin, Santa Barbara, Tulare and Ventura counties.

Read more: https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Newsom-orders-shutdown-of-indoor-business-in-19-15380217.php

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Newsom orders new shutdown of restaurants, other indoor business in 19 California counties (Original Post) alp227 Jul 2020 OP
Better late than never soothsayer Jul 2020 #1
Not actually closing restaurants SoCalNative Jul 2020 #2
Sadly it's already "out of control" there BumRushDaShow Jul 2020 #3
I think we're going to easily overtake NY before the end of the month... nt Starfury Jul 2020 #4
Just due to sheer population differential, that definitely could happen BumRushDaShow Jul 2020 #5
No it won't happen. former9thward Jul 2020 #6
Infections, not fatalities Starfury Jul 2020 #8
The current trajectory of California's spread completely blows your statement out of the water BumRushDaShow Jul 2020 #9
And...tonight we're #1...in total Covid cases...sigh (n/t) Starfury Jul 2020 #10
And the irresponsible only have themselves to blame. Xolodno Jul 2020 #7

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
2. Not actually closing restaurants
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 08:54 PM
Jul 2020

just closing the indoor dining. Restaurants may still serve dine-in customers at outside tables.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
3. Sadly it's already "out of control" there
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:03 PM
Jul 2020

and that ripple under the ocean is producing a tsunami that is getting closer to the shallow waterway and is soon to surface full force... It will take awhile to propagate it out of the system, but only with mitigation measures that may need to be close to doing a complete shutdown again. A state-wide shutdown is what finally brought it under control in NY and despite being less "dense" than NY in terms of population concentration and land mass due to the sprawl and square miles of state, having hundreds of miles of beaches and a climate that supports congregate living and socializing, it's unimaginable what might happen as the most populous state.

In essence, CA knocked NJ out of 2nd place in a month where it took NJ 3 months to get where they are now.

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
5. Just due to sheer population differential, that definitely could happen
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 09:40 PM
Jul 2020

and especially due to literally having twice the population of NY state (although more spread out).

former9thward

(31,935 posts)
6. No it won't happen.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 10:40 PM
Jul 2020

NY has a death rate of 1652 per million population. CA has a death rate of 156 per million. NY made disastrous decisions to keep the subway system going which spread the disease thru out the city. Also they forced nursing homes to accept Covid patients which spread the disease there and killed thousands. No state will match NY no matter what happens.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/coronavirus/country/united-states/

Starfury

(812 posts)
8. Infections, not fatalities
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:41 PM
Jul 2020

I probably should have been more clear, sorry. I was referring to the total number of infections. Case load is growing exponentially and showing no signs of slowing down. I think we'll easily top 500k by 7/30. Anything less would be miraculous.

I don't think we'll match NY in fatalities, which is about the only silver lining I can find. On the other hand, some SoCal counties have already run out of ICU beds, so who knows for certain?

BumRushDaShow

(128,441 posts)
9. The current trajectory of California's spread completely blows your statement out of the water
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 04:54 AM
Jul 2020

and the number of "positive cases" in California is alarming due to the speed at which COVID-19 exploded there in just over a month - https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Deaths are a lagging indicator tied to hospitalizations and potential hospitalizations are a lagging indicator tied to positive results. The spread through a population that is twice that of NY state without mitigation, could be disastrous by August and notably now that more and more of the younger age groups are succumbing to this disease.

But fortunately some type of planning has generally happened over the past 4 months in many states during the period when their own infections were low, and it's now a matter of whether to fully implement those plans without kowtowing to the naysayers.

What to watch is this (Rates of Transmission) - https://rt.live/

Xolodno

(6,383 posts)
7. And the irresponsible only have themselves to blame.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 11:01 PM
Jul 2020

Over Memorial Weekend, we took a drive up to Lake Arrowhead and just walked around the village. Went to a favorite restaurant, of course, take out only....and clear signs you need to wear a mask when entering. Dumbass walks in with no mask to talk to his buddy. Everyone is giving him the stink eye. His buddy notices and tells him, "hey, what are you doing in here? Your not supposed to be in here without a mask". He laughs and walks out.

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