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BigmanPigman

(51,430 posts)
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:27 PM Jul 2020

Russians grant Putin right to extend his rule until 2036 in landslide vote: partial results

Source: Reuters

Russians appeared to have paved the way for Vladimir Putin to stay in power until 2036 by voting overwhelmingly for a package of constitutional changes which will also boost pensions, partial results of a nationwide vote showed on Wednesday.

Results, after almost a third of ballots had been counted, indicated that the former KGB officer who has ruled Russia for more than two decades as president or prime minister would easily win the right to run for two more terms. That means he could remain president for 16 more years.

Russians have been encouraged to vote with prize draws offering flats and an ad campaign highlighting other constitutional amendments in the same reform bundle, such as the pensions protection and a de facto ban on same-sex marriages.

One-off payments of 10,000 roubles ($141) were transferred to those with children at Putin’s order as people headed to polling stations on Wednesday, the last day of the vote, held over seven days to try to limit the spread of the coronavirus.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-putin-vote/russians-grant-putin-right-to-extend-his-rule-until-2036-in-landslide-vote-initial-results-show-idUSKBN24254A

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Russians grant Putin right to extend his rule until 2036 in landslide vote: partial results (Original Post) BigmanPigman Jul 2020 OP
sure they did. wink. bullimiami Jul 2020 #1
It's not whose vote counts, it's who counts the votes... AZ8theist Jul 2020 #15
Agree, over there that's the case of course onetexan Jul 2020 #22
I see what you did there...nt. Xolodno Jul 2020 #29
Paper ballots. Igel Jul 2020 #24
Donnie is drooling over this news. Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 #2
"grant"? fleur-de-lisa Jul 2020 #3
You want "bestow"? "Award"? "Deign to offer"? Igel Jul 2020 #25
They may as well call him Czar. sakabatou Jul 2020 #4
I'd say they just did. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #5
I don't think Russians are physiologically able to live under any... Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 #9
basically what happens when a society is authoritarian Captain Zero Jul 2020 #27
Barr is in Russia trying to figure out how this was done. magicarpet Jul 2020 #6
Only way would be to amend the Constitution which is not easy. cstanleytech Jul 2020 #18
WOW! Really? madashelltoo Jul 2020 #7
102% of Russians supported this. guillaumeb Jul 2020 #8
but will say he is supported by everyone on the planet. Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 #10
Trump's inauguration crowd was bigger. eom guillaumeb Jul 2020 #12
This is Trump's wet dream. patphil Jul 2020 #11
Putin Won't Last That Long Roy Rolling Jul 2020 #13
No surprise here Hip2bSquare Jul 2020 #14
MAGA worthy logic denem Jul 2020 #16
Putin cleverly put everything into a bundle BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #17
"Landslide"...oh, sure... regnaD kciN Jul 2020 #19
Remember when Hillary said he cheated? Putin was pissed!!! BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #20
Wishful thinking -- he'll be gone way before then n/t NEOBuckeye Jul 2020 #21
He'd be 83 at the end of that term n/t lordsummerisle Jul 2020 #23
This would cause bullets to fly in the US. nt Progressive Jones Jul 2020 #26
"Landslide" elections are to be expected in a dictatorship Yeehah Jul 2020 #28

Igel

(35,191 posts)
24. Paper ballots.
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 12:25 AM
Jul 2020

Doesn't matter, except to those who don't like outcomes.

Nobody seriously expected anything different.

I'm sure that a superficial audit, had Putin wanted some international organization predisposed to him to come in and monitor things, would have showed it to be a most excellently conducted election. Meet the requirements of the rubric, you get a 100; don't need to actually do much, if the rubric's written to promote high grades and low learning. As is the norm.

Igel

(35,191 posts)
25. You want "bestow"? "Award"? "Deign to offer"?
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 12:30 AM
Jul 2020

Lots of options. But it required a majority vote.

If you control the population, you don't need to cheat. Keep the wrong things from being said, make sure only the right things *are* said, and if anybody steps out of line, make sure there's some sort of peer pressure to rein him in. Make sure it's a moral issue that's at stake, esp. one of victimization, and you can't lose. To say, "Can we discuss this?" is to show that you're a traitor and your life (and that of your family) is a good target for destruction.

It's the standard soft totalitarian BS. Not all totalitarianism comes branded фашистский.

Captain Zero

(6,714 posts)
27. basically what happens when a society is authoritarian
Thu Jul 2, 2020, 03:10 AM
Jul 2020

they will get a an authoritarian of one ilk or another.

magicarpet

(13,935 posts)
6. Barr is in Russia trying to figure out how this was done.
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:36 PM
Jul 2020

trDumpie wants to import the idea here so it becomes his road to a lifetime Fascist Monarchy too - for himself and succeeding heirs to his crown.

madashelltoo

(1,685 posts)
7. WOW! Really?
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jul 2020

Who would have ever thought such a thing could happen? The Orange Infant is stomping and banging all over the White House because mom (vote) told him, “no.”

Roy Rolling

(6,853 posts)
13. Putin Won't Last That Long
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jul 2020

“Easily pleased, easily displeased”

People who take $141 in exchange for looking the other way while Russia collapses, will just as easily turn on him when they’re hungry and there’s no bread on the store shelves.

He’s a thief and a military aggressor. When he looks outside of Russia to steal what he failed to offer citizens under oligarchy, that’s when the sh*t hits the fan.

Hip2bSquare

(291 posts)
14. No surprise here
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 05:03 PM
Jul 2020

putin has to remain in power. He is nothing without it. All his money is tied up in illegal schemes and/or stolen. He's spied on, jailed and killed critics. He's run free and roughshod over eastern Europe. He is a weak man with a target on his back internally and externally. Russian oligarchs are loyal to putin as long as he's in power...

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
16. MAGA worthy logic
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 05:26 PM
Jul 2020

“I voted for the amendments to the constitution,” Moscow resident Mikhail Volkov said. “We need radical changes and I’m for them.”

Radical change is allowing Putin to continue in office?"

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
19. "Landslide"...oh, sure...
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jul 2020

Don't be surprised when November 4th rolls around, and the news channels are breathlessly reporting the surprise "landslide" re-election win for Trump...


BigmanPigman

(51,430 posts)
20. Remember when Hillary said he cheated? Putin was pissed!!!
Wed Jul 1, 2020, 06:57 PM
Jul 2020

"President Vladimir Putin erupted in Moscow in December 2011, Putin made clear who he thought was really behind them: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton."

"With the protesters accusing Putin of having rigged recent elections, the Russian leader pointed an angry finger at Clinton, who had issued a statement sharply critical of the voting results. “She said they were dishonest and unfair,” Putin fumed in public remarks, saying that Clinton gave “a signal” to demonstrators working “with the support of the U.S. State Department” to undermine his power. “We need to safeguard ourselves from this interference in our internal affairs,” Putin declared."
https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/clinton-putin-226153

He does have opposition in Russia but we know how that goes....

"Russian opposition figure and prominent Kremlin critic Alexey Navalny dismissed the official results of the vote on constitutional amendments as "fake" and "a huge lie."

"Right now a huge number of people is frustrated by the result. I voted 'no,' everyone around voted 'no', and the result is a solid 'yes," Navalny wrote in a blogpost. "This has nothing to do with the opinion of Russian citizens."

"Putin lost this "vote" before it began. After all, he refused to hold a real referendum in accordance with all the rules and with observers present. Because he understood: if there are rules -- he will lose. He can only win where he draws numbers," Navalny added."

"Independent organizations have cast doubt on the numbers and the referendum drew criticism from monitoring groups for lack of regulation."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/europe/russia-referendum-putin-power-2036-intl/index.html

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