Trump in 'fragile' mood and may drop out of 2020 race

[shotten99]

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Source: The Independent

Donald Trump may drop out of the 2020 presidential race if he believes he has no chance of winning, a Republican Party operative reportedly told Fox News.

The claim comes in a report in the president’s favourite news outlet that cites a number of GOP insiders who are concerned about Mr Trump’s re-election prospects amid abysmal polling numbers.

Joe Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, currently holds an average lead of nine points over the incumbent, according to a tracker of 2020 polls by RealClearPolitics.

Crucially, Mr Trump has lost support from older white voters — typically a bedrock of support for the Republican Party and a group that was crucial to his narrow 2016 victory. Mr Trump is also trailing the former vice president in almost all the swing states.

Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/trump-2020-us-election-drop-out-fox-news-republican-a9592036.html

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The source is anonymous, so I'm a bit skeptical.

[maxsolomon]

1. If untrue, its a rope-a-dope from the campaign.

If true, he's a little ballsack.

[ace3csusm]

51. I would worry about this move Pence would then pardon Don the Con

Lincoln project would then back Pence for President ... This is the Republican way to stay in power ...

[AZ8theist]

53. They might do that anyway.

Pence has ZERO chance of being elected. Also, he could only pardon Doturd for federal crimes. Several states, most notably New York, would then line up to prosecute the multitude of state crimes committed by the Doturd Crime Family.

[leftieNanner]

74. I'm not so sure LP would support Pence

He's just been the weenie enabler. I think they want to purge us of the whole gang. They're running ads against Repug Senators as well.

[groundloop]

76. There'd be no pardon power for Pence if tRump merely drops out of the race.

Only if he actually resigned could Pence issue a pardon.

And as far as that goes, I'm very skeptical of this story. tRump hates losers, and I expect him to go above and beyond to attempt stealing the election.

[murielm99]

2. Gimme a break.

He will do everything he can to steal it. He will not drop out.

[sandensea]

5. +1

Spoken in true Bidenesque fashion too.

[Warpy]

24. At best, this is a fantasy of the RNC

because they'd love to have a brokered convention where they could pick a more palatable but no less insane candidate.

[NotHardly]

36. Whole heartily in agreement with you!

[Lock him up.]

41. Unless he finds a way to escape the Secret Service and boards a flight to Moscow...

... and once he'd safely land there and ask for political-refugee status (which I'm not sure Putin would agree to...), then tweet he has stepped down so we'd end up with that whimp pence?

Lock him up! (Before he fLIEs...)

[LiberalArkie]

63. He has AF1 fly him and his family to Moscow and gives AF1 to Putin and sends everyone else

home via commercial flight

[JustAnotherGen]

44. Amen!

[still_one]

3. he won't.

[agingdem]

7. he's not going anywhere

fragile?..give me a break...Trump's is "suffering" from the inability to understand why the masses cannot appreciate and bow down to his obvious genius...

[FirstLight]

4. Someone would have to cinvince him it was ok

...otherwise he knows he has to stay in office to avoid indictment. But even then he could probably be convinced to run away to Russia and take his chances.

hehe, if putin was displeased that he bailed, no doubt he'd get a strontium milkshake!

[Eyeball_Kid]

17. Come on. Putin is no friend of Trump. Putin despises Trump, sees him as a useful idiot.

If Trump deludes himself into thinking that Russia will be a safe haven, he'll get into more trouble. Russia will be moved to strip Trump of all of his assets and leave him a pauper if they don't arrest him on trumped-up charges and let him rot in prison. He still owes the oligarchs hundreds of millions, perhaps more. If he seeks asylum in Russia, they'll call in his loans and he'll be a sitting duck.

Trump is hated everywhere. He'll have no safe haven once he's out of office.

[FirstLight]

25. agreed.... but he's just stupid enough to think he can find a welcome somewhere...

fuck he's probably stupid enough to think he can run away to the Seychelles or something...

[SledDriver]

6. Snowflake

[riversedge]

8. um... wasn't trump --just today, bragging that his internal poll numbers were fine???

[jcgoldie]

13. My guess is Lindsey brought him a msg from Mitch that they all might bail...

The "internal numbers" tweets and the Afghan briefing for GOP only today is the white house desperately trying to keep that from happening. It isn't the President's "fragile mood" thats the issue its that all the rats are about to abandon the ship... Murdoch isn't floating that balloon randomly...

[yaesu]

9. this will not happen, this is part of the staged tRump reality show presidency. nt

[Pantagruel]

10. Don't believe it for a minute

but getting it out on SM will make him even crazier!!

[The Wielding Truth]

11. FOX or ONION ..... Hard to tell the difference.

[lagomorph777]

52. Funyun

[DanieRains]

12. Donald Putin Is Far More Cruel Than Your Tiny Brain Could Imagine - Fleeing To Russia Not An Option

To impress his oligarchs, Putin would make you his food tester.

[bucolic_frolic]

14. Trump will never be that rational, and never allow reality to intrude into his beliefs

So something else is going on with this source. First rumblings of Republicans trying to oust him so he doesn't obliterate their party and their careers and all the fallout that would ensue?

[matt819]

15. Does he really think we're going to buy this shit?

Those of us living in the reality-based universe will believe he'll drop out of the race when he resigns. Even if he doesn't resign but claims he won't run, I still won't believe that until someone else is nominated, or maybe until the ballots are printed. And even then, I don't put it past him to run a write-in campaign.

Until I see the resignation speech, these kinds of reports are just so much BS. Not even trial balloons. Just BS. Not even worthy of skepticism. Just ignore them. Like the man himself, this is a distraction.

[Arkansas Granny]

16. This sounds like the next cliff hanger in his (alternate) reality show.

Stayed tuned, some people say, we'll see what happens.

[LeftInTX]

18. The Independent is about as reliable as

The Daily Mail

[duforsure]

19. When have they ever told the truth?

Yea, I can't remember either.

[lunasun]

20. What is fragile code for ?

Probably just another bs leak
would be nice if he moved out soon

[Xipe Totec]

21. A craven hung along the battle's edge,

And thought, “Had I a sword of keener steel —
That blue blade that the king’s son bears, — but this
Blunt thing!” — he snapt and flung it from his hand,
And lowering crept away and left the field.

From
Opportunity
by Edward Rowland Sill

[Roc2020]

22. Not only will he won't, he can't

he would have to admit defeat....being branded a coward....effectively stifling base turnout...etc etc. He is stuck to see it out.

[moose65]

37. You got it!

This is a no-win for them. If the Republican puppet-masters somehow forced him out, he would turn his demented base loose on them, and R turnout in the election would plummet. We're talking 500 electoral college votes for Biden and 60+ Senate seats. Trump would burn the entire party down on the way out, to get back at them.

On the other hand, if Trump remains the nominee and he keeps tanking in the polls, he might decide on his own to take down the Republicans, because he would see them as disloyal, and that's worse than being Democrats. He would begin to plan his post-POTUS life, and he's always wanted to run a media empire with a bunch of fans who worship him. That way, he could keep blaming the Republicans for being mean to him while spreading crazy conspiracy bullshit about Biden.

[Roc2020]

50. A classic catch 22..

at this point if any of this is true the GOP would force Trump to face the slaughter in November. The alternative would effectively burn the GOP to the ground without a fight. Could not have happened to a better group.

[oldsoftie]

69. But better that than being branded a "loser" for the rest of his life.

Which right now he does not think he is

[Paladin]

23. Yeah, as if trump is contemplating doing something proper at this point. (nt)

[CousinIT]

26. I'll believe it when it happens. n/t

[BComplex]

27. This is an attempt to deflect from bountygate.

He won't resign, nor will he take his name off the ballot.

[ashredux]

28. Don't be too quick to dismiss this.

He can make up a story to drop out, but I terrible loss is written in stone

[Miguelito Loveless]

29. I highly doubt it

On that path be prison.

[Cirque du So-What]

30. True or not...

it’s gratifying to see the word ‘fragile’ associated with His Lardness. I hope it drives the slapdicks who support him quite insane.

[bucolic_frolic]

31. Oh, yeah, I see what they're saying

No election, declaration of dictatorship before November. Better prepare.

[Joinfortmill]

32. Not run? Throw the traitor in jail.

[agingdem]

43. that's what he's afraid of...

prison....statutes of limitation have not expired on most of his crimes...he can replace the entire SDNY with loyalists but when Biden is in office he can fire all the trump toadies and appoint qualified attorneys and they can go after trump...

[abakan]

33. Oh only if this was true...

I don't see him leaving early unless he can get Pence to pardon him, and for that to happen he would have to admit his crimes.
I don't ever see him admitting to anything. But who knows, stranger things have happened, just not in my lifetime.

[cab67]

34. Highly doubtful. But...

in the (very unlikely) chance this does happen, what are the deadlines for replacing a candidate on ballots? I'm pretty sure it varies from state to state, but if this does happen, it would be prior to the first deadline.

More likely, this is wishful thinking on the part of the anonymous source.

[NewJeffCT]

35. the anonymous source was Trump

trying to get Democrats focused on the wrong thing

[jimmyzvoice]

38. If Trump really believes that he will lose the election...

could he resign before the election so that President Pence could give him a blanket pardon?

[doc03]

39. Aww the poor baby nt

[Akakoji]

40. My dad is convinced he will do this

And claim he would have won in a landslide still. It’s obvious he doesn’t give a shit about anything. We have to redouble our efforts to flip the Senate while turning out people in massive numbers.

[cstanleytech]

42. Trump won't drop out both because of his inflated ego and because

he craves attention more than a bucket of KFC.

[peggysue2]

45. Believe it when I see it

I sense this has more to do more with the nervous nellies within the RNC who are terrified of a wipe out, as in BLUE TSUNAMI in November. Trump is repeatedly sabotaging himself and the poll numbers are dismal. But . . .

Trump's ego--though it may be periodically fragile--is massive. The threat of criminal accountability once he's out of office? It's real and coming to a theater near you.

So though I'd love to see this for the health of the country, I'm not counting on it. We need to whip his ass at the ballot box.

[Thomas Hurt]

46. I call bullshit and no one should believe it...

unless you see Pence sworn in and Trump packing his sh*t.

[aggiesal]

47. I definitely don't want to see Pendejo45 drop out of the race. ...

I want the (R)'s to reap everything that is coming their way.
Don't let them nominate another person so that those (R)'s against Pendejo45 can just vote for another candidate with and (R) next to their name, on the ballot.

No, keep Pendejo45 in the race.

[liberalmuse]

48. Using sympathy to shore up and energize the base.

Trump won't drop out.

[PSPS]

49. They're really getting a lot of mileage out of this trial baloon. This started two days ago.

A white house reporter said earlier today that she gets the sense that trump is arranging suitable targets of blame for when he loses or drops out. Everyone in the white house is terrified and carefully screening everything trump sees and hears so as not to "set him off."

[McKim]

54. I Am Optimistic

I am optimistic. I think he is tired of the whole thing. One thing he cannot stand is public humiliation. He wants to be hanging out at Mar a Loco with his cronies and hold court there with adoring fans. I am thinking that republicans will run someone else who appears to be a reasonable person. They do not want to go down with Trump.

[yardwork]

55. I don't want that. If another Republican runs, they may win.

We need Democrats to get in there and clean up the mess. A Republican would hide it and we'll never recover.

[BlueIdaho]

57. Regardless, we must apply 110% effort

To remove this criminal from the White House. Show no mercy.

[johnthewoodworker]

58. 1) He is a pathological narcissist who cannot tolerate shame, criticism, or loss. 2) He is

criminally exposed if the DOJ is taken over by a democrat. The simple thing for him would be resign with a full pardon for all crimes and no election loss. Short of that, he fights the election process until Biden is inaugurated He will win, steal, delay, or negate the election.

[oldsoftie]

70. A Pence win would be continued freedom for him. I agree with your thoughts.

And Pence picks Haley as HIS female VP

[TommyCelt]

59. Lovely idea to be sure...

But that ain't happening.

[jmowreader]

60. If this is true, it's not Trump's idea

The RNC cannot afford to lose one statehouse in the election before redistricting happens. If President Plutonium keeps on the way he is, no one who doesn’t already have his Trump tattoo is going to go to the polls...which is going to turn lots of statehouses blue, because this year Democrats will vote heavily.

I believe the RNC has had a come-to-Jesus moment with the fat bastard: either you guarantee us victory in November or you get the hell out of the race.

[Yeehah]

61. The republican party is now joined at the hip with Trump

Even if he drops out, we still attack the party of trump.

[beachbumbob]

62. never believe this

[Crowman2009]

64. $10 says he flees to Moscow!

any takers?

[Aviation Pro]

67. No, UAE

Dubai is more his style.

[oldsoftie]

65. I told a friend two yrs ago that if he thought he'd lose, he'd quit. Cause he's a baby.

He unfriended me.
Because HE'S a baby too
Shame, we always had some good conversations about many topics other than politics.

[Aviation Pro]

66. It's bullshit

He is subject to immediate arrest by New York state authorities if he resigns.

[TlalocW]

68. I'm of two minds

I can see this happening because Trump often just gives up on things leaving others holding the bag if he doesn't feel whatever project is benefiting him any more.

On the other hand, those occasions are not that widely-known unless you have a reason to be studying Trump. There's no getting around being the ultimate quitter when it comes to dropping out of the race. His ego won't allow for that, and he's already setting up a narrative that mail-in votes are automatically fraudulent in order to have an excuse - in general for losing or for not giving up the office.

TlalocW

[Aviation Pro]

71. Oh, and it's no guarantee that Pence will pardon him

It would foul the little, sycophantic lickspittle's chances of winning the White House.

[0nirevets]

72. Poor little Donald. If he can't win he doesn't want to play, and a big "F-U" to the voters.

Republicans must be so proud.

Cut and run, if true, will leave his party in a vacuum with no candidates who have been vetted by voters in the primaries. Pence was never a viable candidate on his own.

This would be good for Dems and Biden, but a total screw job for the GOP, and unfair for Republican voters. A betrayal of trust. Then again, they could have seen it coming. He's screwed every business partner he ever had, crashed every deal, defaulted on his loans. As a business man, his record was not a secret.

I too am skeptical, but cut & run would not be a surprise.

[not fooled]

73. OK, time for the psychologists

to weigh in on liddle donnie's current state of mental dysfunction, and chances of dropping out.

[lark]

75. Rope a dope

Not real, this is just spoofing us to get us complacent while drumpf ensures disaster at election time so he can steal the country with the embrace of fascist Russian Repug SCOTUS. He can't resign because he will be in jail next year if he does and he knows it

[sarge43]

77. I think this may be a Repug test balloon

Checking how Bunkerbaby's core cult will react.

1. Fingers in ears, lalalalalala. Our Dear Leader would never ever quit us.

2. Throw a nuke level fit. Donny or no one. Stay home or vote third party.

[Mosby]

78. LOCKING

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