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brooklynite

(94,503 posts)
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:05 AM Jun 2020

Trump administration asks Supreme Court to invalidate Obamacare

Source: CNN

In the midst of a global pandemic with the presidential election just months away, the Justice Department asked the Supreme Court on Thursday to invalidate the Affordable Care Act, the landmark health care law that enabled millions of Americans to get insurance coverage and that remains in effect despite the pending legal challenge.

In a late-night filing, Solicitor General Noel Francisco said that once the law's individual coverage mandate and two key provisions are invalidated, "the remainder of the ACA should not be allowed to remain in effect."

The justices will hear arguments in the case sometime next term, although it is unclear if they will occur before the November election.

The dispute ensures another major shift in the political landscape during the election season on an issue that has dominated American politics for the last decade. It will be the third time the court has heard a significant challenge to the law. The case pits a coalition of Democratic attorneys general led by California and the House of Representatives, which are defending the law, against the Trump administration and a group of red state attorneys general led by Texas.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/25/politics/trump-administration-obamacare-supreme-court/index.html

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Trump administration asks Supreme Court to invalidate Obamacare (Original Post) brooklynite Jun 2020 OP
they are really trying to get Joe Biden to 538 EV drray23 Jun 2020 #1
One can dream jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #5
My theory is that the tangeranus fully knows this is a loser issue...but: sdfernando Jun 2020 #29
This is total insanity. madaboutharry Jun 2020 #2
Post removed Post removed Jun 2020 #3
Well 40% of voters do. Voters represent half the population jorgevlorgan Jun 2020 #6
True, I mean voters. madaboutharry Jun 2020 #7
True. And you do see this in a number of countries with eroding white majorities. sandensea Jun 2020 #9
That is a good analysis. madaboutharry Jun 2020 #12
Thanks. sandensea Jun 2020 #13
White Skin is a..... louzke9 Jun 2020 #21
fuckin' A.... dem4evah Jun 2020 #23
It could be worse. At least there isn't a major health crisis right now. Bleacher Creature Jun 2020 #4
To paraphrase Trump: That's a nasty deed and you're a fake President. Marie Marie Jun 2020 #8
Invalidate the trump administration still_one Jun 2020 #10
+1 2naSalit Jun 2020 #11
Another example of how Trump is not right in the head. RDANGELO Jun 2020 #14
Donald Trump Says He'll Have His Own Obamacare 'Replacement' Plan Soon 01/11/2017 keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #15
I knew this was coming for a while now, BigmanPigman Jun 2020 #16
If the roles were reversed, you would see the Republicans on the airwaves OnDoutside Jun 2020 #17
Where's trumps better replacement health care plan? duforsure Jun 2020 #18
Those donnybots affected.. Maxheader Jun 2020 #19
Determined to finally kill it. Which can help Medicare For All. rickyhall Jun 2020 #20
I have an ACA plan. Ohiogal Jun 2020 #22
I'm fearing and thinking it could go down 5-4..... dem4evah Jun 2020 #24
He is killing us on purpose, for the profits of the rich & to steal the presidency. lark Jun 2020 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author CatLady78 Jun 2020 #26
umm, how about invalidating tRump again and bring fresh impeachment charges. nt yaesu Jun 2020 #27
These people not only depraved, but they are total idiots. Sapient Donkey Jun 2020 #28
I would love to see that thing in the White House brought before the World court in the geretogo Jun 2020 #30
This experiment in self government ended January 2016 . I will fly a Canadian flag from my geretogo Jun 2020 #31

drray23

(7,627 posts)
1. they are really trying to get Joe Biden to 538 EV
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:08 AM
Jun 2020

Who is their right mind would push nonsense like that in the middle of a pandemic ? Forget the fact that it is immoral and wrong on its face, its also a complete loser politically for Trump.

jorgevlorgan

(8,290 posts)
5. One can dream
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:19 AM
Jun 2020

But they are doing a great job at helping our dreams come true. That and 70 Senate seats! At this rate, we will easily be able to replace the ACA with something better if it is invalidated. But damn would that screw over a lot of people!

sdfernando

(4,930 posts)
29. My theory is that the tangeranus fully knows this is a loser issue...but:
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:55 PM
Jun 2020

1) Because he still has to "stick it" to that former black President that "insulted" him publicly at a dinner once he has to destroy everything Obama did or stands for.

2) orange pustule knows he is going to lose re-election (he said so publicly in that fox interview) it is know scorched earth policy. If the United States doesn't want him as President then he will destroy as much of it as he can just out of spite.

That orange blob of feces has no moral center and no soul.

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
2. This is total insanity.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:08 AM
Jun 2020

I can’t get my head around the fact that 40% of the population supports this psychotic administration.

Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)

jorgevlorgan

(8,290 posts)
6. Well 40% of voters do. Voters represent half the population
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:20 AM
Jun 2020

So when you think about it, only about 20% of the population actually likes him, probably.

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
9. True. And you do see this in a number of countries with eroding white majorities.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:39 AM
Jun 2020

The U.S., U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Argentina, etc.

That white voters start to fall into two very distinct groups:

The half that accepts this trend as something inevitable and even positive;

And the half that hates this trend to death, as "ethnic pollution" and an existential threat to "the country I know and love."

The GOPee has definitely cast their lot with the second group. I trust future Democrats will make sure that, when the GOP comes to regret it, we won't let the electorate forget it.

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
12. That is a good analysis.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:49 AM
Jun 2020

Some people are afraid of change, even if it can be for the good. If they weren’t so hateful I would feel a little sorry for them.

sandensea

(21,624 posts)
13. Thanks.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:52 AM
Jun 2020

It is what it is.

Luckily, there's that moderate 20/30% that, though they can fall for the siren call a little, will quickly abandon right-wingers once their misgovernance becomes obvious.

And boy, has it ever for our friend Cheeto.

louzke9

(296 posts)
21. White Skin is a.....
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 07:51 AM
Jun 2020

result of a GENETIC ANOMALY, and it occurred during our evolution AFTER our earliest ancestors first walked the earth in AFRICA! All humans share 99.9% the SAME DNA! Genetic scientists have traced our X(maternal) and Y(paternal) chromosomes all the way back to a group of first known humans living in EAST AFRICA. From a genetic/biological view, race is pretty much a MYTH. A myth perpetuated by light skinned humans who need to grab any straws to feel superior. And for those conservative Christian zealots, this means ADAM and EVE WERE BLACK!!!

 

dem4evah

(75 posts)
23. fuckin' A....
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 08:52 AM
Jun 2020

I wouldn't be so pissed if it was 15-30% or so. That's kind of the Ahole factor but FORTY? Yeah, it's brutal.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
14. Another example of how Trump is not right in the head.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:55 AM
Jun 2020

He obviously is under some delusion that repealing the ACA is going to help him. Because of his narcissistic personality disorder, he is incapable of abandoning those delusions. He clings to them.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
15. Donald Trump Says He'll Have His Own Obamacare 'Replacement' Plan Soon 01/11/2017
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 01:52 AM
Jun 2020

Donald Trump Says He’ll Have His Own Obamacare ‘Replacement’ Plan Soon

01/11/2017 02:25 pm ET

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-obamacare-replacement-plan-soon_us_58766aa3e4b092a6cae46c6f

"At his first post-election press conference on Wednesday, president-elect Donald Trump said he will release his own plan to “repeal and replace” the Affordable Care Act shortly after taking office. What he didn’t say is what that plan will be or how it will work."

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
16. I knew this was coming for a while now,
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 02:27 AM
Jun 2020

but it truly seems like the most idiotic move to make at this time. Is his campaign team really on board with this? The midterms were won on this issue. It must be Jared's great idea.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
17. If the roles were reversed, you would see the Republicans on the airwaves
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 02:35 AM
Jun 2020

Night and Day, screaming about what the Democrats were in the middle of. Will we see that reaction now from the Dems ? This is an unbelievable own goal by the Republicans, and presents a massive opportunity to give them an even bigger kicking. This is all Trump, but utter cowardice from the GOP is there to be exploited. I can only hope that the Lincoln Project will sharpen their claws, because now is the time to lay the groundwork by warning people that the Republicans are in court right now to kill the ACA in the middle of a Pandemic, just because Obama.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
18. Where's trumps better replacement health care plan?
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:41 AM
Jun 2020

OH I forgot , the serial liar is against the American people getting any health care if he has his way. trump supporters will lose their health car too. Stupid move during a pandemic , and right before an election. He will do more to hurt the American people as he sees he's losing badly for revenge against us all. The threats are coming as his poll numbers drop like a rock on him and republicans. He'll start making promises again he'll never keep, and claims he'll do something great for the American people when its really the Democrats standing their ground for direct stimulus checks , and getting us another payout, and not from trump. But he will try to con people into thinking he was for it, when he wasn't. trump wants a pr event claiming he's behind it, watch him, its coming.

Ohiogal

(31,979 posts)
22. I have an ACA plan.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 08:11 AM
Jun 2020

I cannot possibly hate all Republicans any more than I do right now.

And I seriously doubt they are doing this because they have a better plan in the works. They have had a decade to come up with a better plan and we have gotten zip, zero, nada. We would have heard something by now if that miracle had any chance of happening.

And in the middle of a pandemic.... a disease that leaves many people with permanent lung issues .... so of course you’ll be rejected by for-profit insurance companies for having a pre-existing condition if the ACA is ruled unconstitutional. Who knows how those ultra conservative loons on the SCOTUS will vote.

I swear, I told my husband this morning, if we didn’t have 3 adult kids here, I’d seriously look into moving to another country. The USA just wants anyone who isn’t rich, to die.

I hope and pray that Biden gets in and adds two more SCOTUS justices (approved by a majority Dem Senate).

 

dem4evah

(75 posts)
24. I'm fearing and thinking it could go down 5-4.....
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 08:55 AM
Jun 2020

but Hope I'm wrong obviously. Here's the thing. tOrange Turd couldn't care LESS what's in it...he doesn't even KNOW what's in it. He just knows it's called 'Obamacare' and what's it eliminated. IF it wasn't ever called that, and was only known as the ACA my guess is there would be NO attempt to squash it.

lark

(23,093 posts)
25. He is killing us on purpose, for the profits of the rich & to steal the presidency.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:08 AM
Jun 2020

I also think PUtin is probably advising him on how to destroy the American constitution & promises to steal the election for him if he has destroyed the country sufficiently before then. Of course, he's also putting his personal profiteering over the health of the people and knows this is killing us and could care less because he is profiting - bigly - and has plans to kill and profiteer bigly in the months to come.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
28. These people not only depraved, but they are total idiots.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:55 PM
Jun 2020

Why would they think this is something that would benefit them at this time? They couldn't destroy the ACA because too many Americans benefit from various aspects of it. So, let's destroy the entire thing in the midst of a pandemic. Is he trying to get support of the insurance industry so they can drop a bunch of current and former covid patients? Oh, you had covid, aye? Well, that's a preexisting condition for everything. We're not going to pay for your cancer treatment, and we're dropping you next month. Not to mention the millions of people who only have insurance because of subsidies or medicaid expansion.

I wonder how many Trump supporters only have insurance because of the ACA, and if they realize that it's the ACA that makes that possible.

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
30. I would love to see that thing in the White House brought before the World court in the
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:28 PM
Jun 2020

Hague for crimes against humanity .

geretogo

(1,281 posts)
31. This experiment in self government ended January 2016 . I will fly a Canadian flag from my
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:33 PM
Jun 2020

house on the 4th of July .

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