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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:21 AM Jun 2020

U.S. Appeals Court Orders Judge to Dismiss Michael Flynn Case

Source: Bloomberg

A federal appeals court ordered a judge to immediately dismiss the criminal case against President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael Flynn, Bloomberg News reports.

A three-judge appellate panel on Wednesday denied U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan the authority to examine whether the government’s surprise motion to dismiss the case, in which Flynn pleaded guilty twice to lying to the FBI, was part of a corrupt effort to aid one of Trump’s political allies.

Developing...

Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-24/u-s-appeals-court-orders-judge-to-dismiss-michael-flynn-case

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U.S. Appeals Court Orders Judge to Dismiss Michael Flynn Case (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jun 2020 OP
Well, that's just fucked. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #1
Well, that's fucking depressing. n/t theaocp Jun 2020 #2
Corruption in the courts. NCjack Jun 2020 #3
Denied U.S. District Judge Emmet Sulivan the "authority" to exaimne . . Iliyah Jun 2020 #4
Surprisingly the decision was written by a trump appointee. Sure glad there is no difference still_one Jun 2020 #6
Will not go well with many Americans . . Iliyah Jun 2020 #7
It's worth noting that the dissent is only partial FBaggins Jun 2020 #34
Not just any Trump appointee BidenMyTime Jun 2020 #81
+1 betsuni Jun 2020 #82
How Many Of The Cheap Thug's Appointees On The Panel, Ma'am? The Magistrate Jun 2020 #5
One Trump appointee, and one Trumpy GHWBush appointee in this 2-1 decision. SunSeeker Jun 2020 #41
Small Surprise, Sir The Magistrate Jun 2020 #44
Agree.... ewagner Jun 2020 #69
Flynn is a free man. No felony record. Therefore no need for Trump to pardon. damn, damn damn riversedge Jun 2020 #8
Depends on whether the decision requires dismissal "with predjudice" FBaggins Jun 2020 #18
I wonder how long Trumps "out the door" pardon list will be. PoliticAverse Jun 2020 #33
I doubt that he "just won't care" FBaggins Jun 2020 #35
The rule was written precisely to avoid that. Igel Jun 2020 #75
Might as well resign ourselves to it vlyons Jun 2020 #9
This will be appealed because it makes no sense ScratchCat Jun 2020 #10
Can they appeal it to the supreme court? BComplex Jun 2020 #17
Who is they? Who is going to appeal it? Can a judge appeal a decision of another court? KPN Jun 2020 #28
It would go the full DC circut, DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #74
I doubt it FBaggins Jun 2020 #30
Ugh. soothsayer Jun 2020 #11
let the underground pardoning begin. kozar Jun 2020 #12
Wait.... ScratchCat Jun 2020 #13
Are you sure it will be appealed? murielm99 Jun 2020 #15
More than a couple judges appointed and expected to rule conservative did not. Ligyron Jun 2020 #20
This .. . Iliyah Jun 2020 #25
The case was over once the prosecution widthdrew. PoliticAverse Jun 2020 #14
I disagree ScratchCat Jun 2020 #21
They did offer an explanation of why (19 pages with citations)... PoliticAverse Jun 2020 #27
Bullshit reasons as reported by Judge Gleason in his brief. Solomon Jun 2020 #70
Oh, but the Courts will hold we're told Ponietz Jun 2020 #16
Yeah. What happened to that? Looks like those judges Moscow Mitch rammed through BComplex Jun 2020 #23
And they want to complain about lawlessness. Joe Nation Jun 2020 #19
Judge appointed by Trump. THIS is how crime syndicates operate. CousinIT Jun 2020 #22
Can anyone file a RICO charge against them? BComplex Jun 2020 #24
THe DEms Can Go After Him Me. Jun 2020 #26
They'll likely have to either impeach some judges or appoint increase the number oif District judges KPN Jun 2020 #31
Who would have standing to appeal this? ibegurpard Jun 2020 #29
Just Judge Sullivan FBaggins Jun 2020 #38
I don't know if this is true or not, PRETZEL Jun 2020 #40
It is FBaggins Jun 2020 #43
Not sure I understand, PRETZEL Jun 2020 #46
Standing is always relevant FBaggins Jun 2020 #50
Under rule of law, if a judge has no standing when the DOJ abdicates, then there is ancianita Jun 2020 #71
The judge WOULD have standing FBaggins Jun 2020 #72
So treason is OK? Russia's attack on our elections was an act of war. Botany Jun 2020 #32
All true. It's like Russia is running our country. It's like they have been running republicans for BComplex Jun 2020 #36
And all those GOP senators who got NRA money in 2016 knew it was Russian money. Botany Jun 2020 #37
Traitor Tot tweets at 3:00 am because it's business hours in Moscow. OMGWTF Jun 2020 #59
Of course they have, BC DENVERPOPS Jun 2020 #63
Putin is in charge of our country. onecaliberal Jun 2020 #67
Giving "credit" where "credit" is due-- these Trumpian hacks ResistantAmerican17 Jun 2020 #39
Trump establising that crime does indeed pay. nt SunSeeker Jun 2020 #42
Bull Shit............ turbinetree Jun 2020 #45
'A third judge accused them of overstepping their powers.' elleng Jun 2020 #47
One of the two dismissing judges was Kavanaugh's replacement nuxvomica Jun 2020 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Pepsidog Jun 2020 #49
Banana Republicans will be the death of this country. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #51
Does double jeopardy apply here or can the next head of the DOJ actually seek justice still? cstanleytech Jun 2020 #52
Double jeopardy does not apply stopwastingmymoney Jun 2020 #64
It might as well FBaggins Jun 2020 #66
This is beyond outrageous. Firestorm49 Jun 2020 #53
Let's hope that the entire appeals court takes this up and reverses the decision of the three totodeinhere Jun 2020 #54
I hope Biden has established a quiet team to look at all the damage tRump PaulRevere08 Jun 2020 #55
I agree, Paul. We need to start a thread with our wish list on what Biden needs to do. BComplex Jun 2020 #76
So justice is blind, despite the fact that Flynn plead guilty, eh? SWBTATTReg Jun 2020 #56
Shameful. No coincidence this ruling comes right before the prosecutor testifies before House today iluvtennis Jun 2020 #57
It's a long way to November and even longer to January. BarbD Jun 2020 #58
We are watching the dissection of democracy and McConnell's court stacking is huge in that effort Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #60
Pieces of shit Jill Stein and protest voters Alpeduez21 Jun 2020 #61
He lied to the court.... McCamy Taylor Jun 2020 #62
Shouldn't the Trump-appointed judge recuse herself? n/t SpankMe Jun 2020 #65
Merely being a trump appointee normally would not be enough to justify recusal. totodeinhere Jun 2020 #68
We need top get rid of the whole justice system in this country. iemitsu Jun 2020 #73
Disgusting ck4829 Jun 2020 #77
I gotta believe this is highly unusual for the appeals court to force a judge to make a ruling? bluestarone Jun 2020 #78
Neomi Rao is unfit to serve as a judge pfitz59 Jun 2020 #79
corrupt court rockfordfile Jun 2020 #80
Very corrupt ck4829 Jun 2020 #83

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. Denied U.S. District Judge Emmet Sulivan the "authority" to exaimne . .
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:25 AM
Jun 2020

Ain't cool for the Appeals court, shows favoritism and blocks justice.

still_one

(91,963 posts)
6. Surprisingly the decision was written by a trump appointee. Sure glad there is no difference
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:28 AM
Jun 2020

between republicans or Democrats


FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
34. It's worth noting that the dissent is only partial
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:05 AM
Jun 2020

Wilkins' dissenting opinion is mostly that Judge Sullivan hadn't made a ruling yet. It closes by recognizing that the government may very well be entitled to the "leave of the court" to dismiss the case, but that it's only appropriate for the appeals court to consider that question after he declines to give that leave.

BidenMyTime

(6 posts)
81. Not just any Trump appointee
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 02:36 AM
Jun 2020

Neomi Rao is probably the single worst Trump appointee that he's put on the bench. Much worse than Kavanaugh, though Kavanaugh sits on a higher court.

Dems will need to seriously consider reforming the entire judiciary given the number of completely unqualified political hacks that Trump has put on the bench.

SunSeeker

(51,372 posts)
41. One Trump appointee, and one Trumpy GHWBush appointee in this 2-1 decision.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:33 AM
Jun 2020

Today’s 2-1 opinion was authored by Judge Neomi Rao, a Trump appointee, and joined by Karen LeCraft Henderson. In February 2020, Henderson joined the opinion of Circuit Judge Thomas B. Griffith when the majority held that the United States House Committee on the Judiciary could not enforce a subpoena upon President Trump's former White House Counsel, Don McGahn.[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_L._Henderson

ewagner

(18,964 posts)
69. Agree....
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:28 PM
Jun 2020

Trump replaced a number of judges in the DC district but I don't think he replace a majority/.

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
18. Depends on whether the decision requires dismissal "with predjudice"
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:47 AM
Jun 2020

If not... the next administration could elect to review and possibly renew the prosecution. Trump might decide to pardon to avoid that...

... but now it will be on his way out the door instead of earlier when it could impact the election.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
33. I wonder how long Trumps "out the door" pardon list will be.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:04 AM
Jun 2020

Maybe he just won't care and won't bother to help anyone else.

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
35. I doubt that he "just won't care"
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:07 AM
Jun 2020

He's definitely a vindictive person. If/when he loses, I'm sure that his final two months in office will be "give me a list of everything I can do to stick it to Biden & Co." It may take years to adjudicate all of the reaches in his final actions.

Igel

(35,197 posts)
75. The rule was written precisely to avoid that.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 03:23 PM
Jun 2020

Judiciary hears cases brought by the executive. That's part of the rule. The executive withdraws, there is no constitutional authority for the judiciary to keep the case--it cannot bring a case or bring charges.

That said, there's nothing preventing the executive from bringing charges. Then, about to lose, it withdraws them. Digs a bit more. Brings them again. About to lose, it drops them. Digs a bit more, tries something else. New lawyer, new theory, better coached witnesses. Or maybe just waits a few years until memories fade. Or the defendant can't afford a good defense. Then the executive brings charges.

You see how that's unjust? And why a judge might not want to dismiss the charges? Because then it's one constitutional issue opposed to another constitutional claim--due process. The punishment levied at that point is not against the defendant, it being assumed that the prosecutor's dropping charges because its in a bad position in the trial, but against the prosecution--it has to continue the case in hopes of winning, or just bail and lose by default.

Dismissing the charges with prejudice--that's the motion before the court--makes that argument moot.

All that's left is the executive-branch claim of bringing charges for a criminal violation of the laws.

The perjury thing I consider bogus.

ScratchCat

(1,957 posts)
10. This will be appealed because it makes no sense
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jun 2020

It makes no sense because he plead guilty twice already. The DOJ doesn't really have the authority to drop a case once its in the sentencing phase unless the judge in charge of the case says so. An appeals court does not have the authority here to dismiss a case if the judge says no.

KPN

(15,587 posts)
28. Who is they? Who is going to appeal it? Can a judge appeal a decision of another court?
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:57 AM
Jun 2020

Even if that is possible and it ultimately goes to the SC, do you think this SC would find against DOJ/Barr?

kozar

(2,036 posts)
12. let the underground pardoning begin.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jun 2020

nothing to do with DU. This is simply a pardon without having to pardon. Expect more now that it works.

Koz

ScratchCat

(1,957 posts)
13. Wait....
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:42 AM
Jun 2020
The appeals court said such an inquiry would harm the executive branch’s exclusive prosecutorial power. “The contemplated proceedings would likely require the Executive to reveal the internal deliberative process behind its exercise of prosecutorial discretion, interfering with the Article II charging authority,” the opinion said.

Are you effing kidding me? The judge says that if they allowed this, then it would have to be revealed that Trump was calling the shots. Un-effing-real!!! Its right there, in black and white.

Will be appealed.

murielm99

(30,656 posts)
15. Are you sure it will be appealed?
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jun 2020

Can it be appealed, especially in this corrupt atmosphere? I am not a lawyer.

Ligyron

(7,592 posts)
20. More than a couple judges appointed and expected to rule conservative did not.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:50 AM
Jun 2020

To the consternation of the ruling class who installed them. Maybe some like Gorsuck won't suck so bad after all.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
14. The case was over once the prosecution widthdrew.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:44 AM
Jun 2020

If the case ever made it to the Supreme Court the liberals on the court would not side against the accused
in a case where the prosecution has abandoned the charges.

ScratchCat

(1,957 posts)
21. I disagree
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jun 2020

In almost any case where the prosecution abandons the charges, they do so because of either gross misconduct or because it was proven the accused was not actually guilty. This is jot the case here. It would be virtually the only case in the history of American jurisprudence where charges were "abandoned" after a guilty plea with no legitimate explanation as to why.

BComplex

(7,982 posts)
23. Yeah. What happened to that? Looks like those judges Moscow Mitch rammed through
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jun 2020

are all that's holding. They're all crooked.

CousinIT

(9,151 posts)
22. Judge appointed by Trump. THIS is how crime syndicates operate.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jun 2020

THIS is how the Trump Crime Syndicate has gotten away with its criminal enterprises for DECADES:

Buy off law enforcement, judges, DAs, gov't officials. Now that Trump is POTUS, just appoint the judges and courts he wants to protect HIM.
If buying them off won't work, then bribe them. Think Ukraine. Quid Pro Quo.
If bribing them won't work, threaten them - blackmail, harassment, whatever it takes.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
26. THe DEms Can Go After Him
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:56 AM
Jun 2020

once the switch is made and they will be out for blood. He will be sorry.

KPN

(15,587 posts)
31. They'll likely have to either impeach some judges or appoint increase the number oif District judges
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:01 AM
Jun 2020

to have success in doing that?

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
29. Who would have standing to appeal this?
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jun 2020

The problem is we have an utterly corrupt prosecution (Bill Barr) dropping the case... can't be a crime if i refuse to prosecute it. The judge can't be both arbiter and prosecution. Again who has standing to appeal it?

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
38. Just Judge Sullivan
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:20 AM
Jun 2020

Which would be an interesting dynamic considering the DC Circuit reviews every other appealed decision that he makes.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
40. I don't know if this is true or not,
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:32 AM
Jun 2020

but I've read on another site I frequent that Judge Garland as head of the DC Circuit can also order an en banc hearing?

I sure hope either he or Sullivan request one.

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
43. It is
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:35 AM
Jun 2020

It's correct that the circuit could decide on their own to review the case... but the question was who would have standing to sue.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
46. Not sure I understand,
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jun 2020

if Judge Garland calls for a full review, is the issue of standing relevant?

Not a lawyer nor am I totally familiar with how federal courts work.

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
50. Standing is always relevant
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:58 AM
Jun 2020

What you're missing here is that this ruling isn't about the underlying case... it was about whether or not Judge Sullivan had the power to take certain action in that underlying case (e.g., hold a hearing to review a specific motion). He is, therefore, the one who is affected by the ruling and would have standing for an appeal (he can either hold that hearing or he can't).

The concept of "standing" is that it isn't enough to just disagree with an action. You can only sue over it (in federal cases anyway) if you have been "injured in fact" by the action that you're suing over and it's likely that a ruling in your favor would remedy the situation.

Since he's the only one affected adversely by the ruling, he's the only one with standing to appeal it. Though... as noted... other judges on the court of appeals have the ability to consider whether a panel of that full court should have their ruling reviewed.

ancianita

(35,813 posts)
71. Under rule of law, if a judge has no standing when the DOJ abdicates, then there is
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jun 2020

a lot of tricky trappy law going on as this country turns toward "rule of men."

Since he's the only one affected adversely by the ruling, he's the only one with standing to appeal it. Though... as noted... other judges on the court of appeals have the ability to consider whether a panel of that full court should have their ruling reviewed.



Since this case proved harm to the people of the U.S., according to the original prosecution, how can the decision stand without challenge, since only Judge Sullivan is the focus instead of the original case of "harm" to the people of the U.S.?

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
72. The judge WOULD have standing
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:01 PM
Jun 2020

He certainly has a right to an appeal if he wants one (though I don't expect it).

Since this case proved harm to the people of the U.S., according to the original prosecution

Whether to prosecute criminal harm to the people of the U.S. is the responsibility of the executive branch. The solution to a failure to do so is to get a new executive.

Botany

(70,291 posts)
32. So treason is OK? Russia's attack on our elections was an act of war.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:01 AM
Jun 2020

Flynn was on the phone with the Russian ambassador selling out America and our elections
end of story.

Look for Trump and Barr to try to find a reason to cancel the elections. We are in really
deep shit.

So now Cohen, Manifort, Flynn walk free, and don't expect Stone to do any jail time.

BComplex

(7,982 posts)
36. All true. It's like Russia is running our country. It's like they have been running republicans for
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:13 AM
Jun 2020

a long long time.

Botany

(70,291 posts)
37. And all those GOP senators who got NRA money in 2016 knew it was Russian money.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:16 AM
Jun 2020

OH's Rob Portman come on down.

OMGWTF

(3,900 posts)
59. Traitor Tot tweets at 3:00 am because it's business hours in Moscow.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:41 PM
Jun 2020

He's getting his daily "to do" list on how to destroy America from Putin.

DENVERPOPS

(8,679 posts)
63. Of course they have, BC
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:04 PM
Jun 2020

For at least four years....If we spoke ebonics, we would all be saying: "We Be Fucked".......

ResistantAmerican17

(3,777 posts)
39. Giving "credit" where "credit" is due-- these Trumpian hacks
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:23 AM
Jun 2020

Have stripped off the thin veneer of “equal justice under the law” and “no man is above the law.” The rule of law is perhaps mortally wounded in America.

elleng

(130,154 posts)
47. 'A third judge accused them of overstepping their powers.'
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jun 2020

*"A third judge on the panel, Judge Robert L. Wilkins, a 2014 appointee of President Barack Obama, dissented. He said Judge Sullivan should be permitted to complete his review of the prosecutor’s actions and whether they are impermissible before deciding whether to grant the government’s motion to dismiss, citing the unusual circumstances of the Justice Department’s “abrupt reversal on the facts and the law” and the opacity of what happened.

In a dissenting opinion, he said his colleagues had made a series of mistakes that rendered a “dead letter” the portion of the rule of criminal procedure that said cases may only be dismissed with a judge’s approval, or “leave of the court” — at least in cases where the defense and prosecution agrees that a case should be dropped.

Instead, he argued, the law requires that Judge Sullivan be permitted to rule — and if Mr. Flynn and the Justice Department do not like what he decides, they can then file an appeal.

'The district court must be given a reasonable opportunity to consider and hold a hearing on the government’s request to ensure that it is not clearly contrary to the public interest,” he wrote. “I therefore dissent.”

The ruling could effectively end the case, if Judge Sullivan acquiesces. But even if he instead asks the full appeals court to vacate the order and rehear the matter — or the full court decides to intervene on its own — the ruling seemed likely at a minimum to disrupt his plan to hold a hearing on July 16 on whether to dismiss the case.

The outsider whom Judge Sullivan had appointed to critique the Justice Department motion — John Gleeson, a former federal judge — had argued that its arguments for dropping the case were baseless and a “pretext” for an illegitimate political intervention on behalf of a presidential favorite, and urged Judge Sullivan to instead sentence Mr. Flynn.">>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/us/politics/michael-flynn-appeals-court.html?

nuxvomica

(12,364 posts)
48. One of the two dismissing judges was Kavanaugh's replacement
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jun 2020
Brett Kavanaugh’s elevation to the Supreme Court left a vacancy on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, often referred to as the second-most powerful court in the country. Trump is trying to fill it with Neomi Rao, a woman who has adopted a staunch position in favor of the demeaning, often alcohol-fueled practice of “dwarf-tossing.” Rao has written two law review articles and a blog post in which she expresses her belief that outlawing the practice infringes on the right of the dwarf to be tossed. Of course, defending such actions has serious dignity and safety concerns, as outlined by CAP’s Rebecca Cokley—never mind the fact that Rao has also led the administration’s efforts to dismantle environmental, health, safety, and other important regulations. In 2016, Rao took millions of dollars from the Koch brothers to found a center at George Mason University’s Antonin Scalia Law School for the “Study of the Administrative State,” essentially transferring Rao’s nickname as the “regulatory czar” to teaching students about eliminating government rules.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/courts/reports/2018/12/20/464554/13-troubling-judicial-nominees-missed-year/

Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

FBaggins

(26,697 posts)
66. It might as well
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:17 PM
Jun 2020

It isn't "double jeopardy" (for the reason you mentioned)... but the motion the judge is directed to grant was to dismiss the charges with prejudice.

Essentially the same effect.

Firestorm49

(4,004 posts)
53. This is beyond outrageous.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:08 PM
Jun 2020

I’m fuming right now.

Crime and resulting punishment are relegated to the huddled masses while the f_____ing privileged continue to get away with whatever it is they choose - Epstein, Stone, Flynn, and on and on. It’s not even obscure any more, it’s blatant “screw you” right in our faces.

Protect the bourgeoisie. Jail the common man.

Bill Barr is the modern day Goebels and we’re all but helpless in stopping him. I fear for us all.

This must stop. This is NOT representative government. Why are we so complacent when Republican thieves vomit on the Constitution? Fair and equal justice? My ass!

We’re watching as we go down in flames. Republicans will now do anything and everything to win in November, and already have sown the seeds of revolution whether they win or not.

This is sickening!

totodeinhere

(13,037 posts)
54. Let's hope that the entire appeals court takes this up and reverses the decision of the three
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jun 2020

judge panel.

PaulRevere08

(449 posts)
55. I hope Biden has established a quiet team to look at all the damage tRump
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:20 PM
Jun 2020

has done. For each department build a list of who has to go, what rules need to be over-turned and who can immediately jump in to fix things. He won't have time to do a normal transition and I am sure that all tRump loyalists will do everything they can to ensure a rocky one.

BComplex

(7,982 posts)
76. I agree, Paul. We need to start a thread with our wish list on what Biden needs to do.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 05:19 PM
Jun 2020

It's already a long list in my head.

BarbD

(1,191 posts)
58. It's a long way to November and even longer to January.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:40 PM
Jun 2020

The damage that can be done to all of us is mind-blowing.

GET OUT THE VOTE!!!!!

Evolve Dammit

(16,632 posts)
60. We are watching the dissection of democracy and McConnell's court stacking is huge in that effort
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jun 2020

Corrupt bastards. To the core.

totodeinhere

(13,037 posts)
68. Merely being a trump appointee normally would not be enough to justify recusal.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:25 PM
Jun 2020

The judge would have to have some sort of personal involvement with the issue and I’m not sure if that is the case in this case.

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
73. We need top get rid of the whole justice system in this country.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:19 PM
Jun 2020

It's not just the police that are a problem.

bluestarone

(16,722 posts)
78. I gotta believe this is highly unusual for the appeals court to force a judge to make a ruling?
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 07:56 PM
Jun 2020

Is this normal procedure? I hope he appeals to FULL court!

pfitz59

(10,198 posts)
79. Neomi Rao is unfit to serve as a judge
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jun 2020

Her "career" was administrative, not judicial. Theoretical and speculative rather than practical and experiential. She stinks.

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