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Mrs. Overall

(6,839 posts)
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 01:22 PM Jun 2020

6 eBay Executives And Employees Charged With Sending Threats, Bloody Pig Mask To Natick Couple

Source: CBS

Six former eBay executives and employees are facing federal charges after they allegedly led a cyberstalking campaign against a Natick couple they believed was critical of the company in an online ecommerce newsletter.

U.S. Attorney Andrew Lelling said the eBay employees’ harassment included sending the couple “disturbing deliveries” that included a bloody pig mask, a box of live cockroaches, and a funeral wreath. The employees also allegedly sent anonymous threatening messages and traveled to Massachusetts to conduct “covert surveillance” of the victims.

“It was a determined, systematic effort of senior employees of a major company to destroy the lives of a couple in Natick, all because they published content company executives didn’t like,” said Lelling. James Baugh, 45, of San Jose, California, eBay’s former director of safety and security and former eBay director of global resiliency David Harville, 48, of New York City, were among the six charged Monday. Also charged were Stephanie Popp, 32, of San Jose; Stephanie Stockwell, 26, of Redwood City, Calif.; Veronica Zeak, 26, of San Jose; and Brian Gilbert, 51, of San Jose. Each is charged with conspiracy to commit cyberstalking and conspiracy to tamper with witnesses.

“These deliveries included fly larvae and live spiders, a box of live cockroaches, a sympathy wreath on the occasion of the death of a loved one, a book of advice on how to survive the death of a spouse, pornography mailed to their next door neighbors but in the couple’s names, Halloween masks featuring the face of the bloody pig, and the pig fetus which was ordered, but after an inquiry by the supplier, thankfully, wasn’t ever sent,” Lelling said.

Read more: https://boston.cbslocal.com/2020/06/15/ebay-employees-arrested-u-s-attorney-andrew-lelling-cyberstalking/

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6 eBay Executives And Employees Charged With Sending Threats, Bloody Pig Mask To Natick Couple (Original Post) Mrs. Overall Jun 2020 OP
Company policies and profit above all I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #1
Incredible!!! n/t RKP5637 Jun 2020 #2
This is OMG so horrible and outlandish Beakybird Jun 2020 #3
That's some sick shit Mike 03 Jun 2020 #4
You said it! Delphinus Jun 2020 #28
New meaning to the term 'throttled' bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #5
Well said, all of that and then some. I also noticed appalachiablue Jun 2020 #8
Was it 'impress the secretaries with threats against the customers'? Machismo lives!! bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #9
It's risky to be a small seller on ebay (and probably amazon) Sapient Donkey Jun 2020 #11
Agreed matt819 Jun 2020 #18
Any corporation running its own spy agency Miguelito Loveless Jun 2020 #6
Snowden revealed how much of the US state surveillance is in service of corporations, so it's not ancianita Jun 2020 #15
+1 2naSalit Jun 2020 #24
Any for-profit company that doesn't spy on its competitors, customers is not fulfilling its erronis Jun 2020 #33
wow. barbtries Jun 2020 #7
Educated? perhaps. Professional? in some sense. Ethical? NO. Problem with business is that it wants erronis Jun 2020 #26
so true. barbtries Jun 2020 #30
Agree. I've wondered about how they can feel like they can steal the nation/world's wealth erronis Jun 2020 #34
Well, that's pretty damn insane. Sapient Donkey Jun 2020 #10
This is beyond frazzled Jun 2020 #12
Let me guess snort Jun 2020 #13
... Kali Jun 2020 #14
What the holy fuck... Canoe52 Jun 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author morillon Jun 2020 #17
ugh Lulu KC Jun 2020 #19
Rethugs say corporations are people. Lock eBay's ass up. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #20
Were They Fired or Promoted??? NonPC Jun 2020 #21
they've all been fired barbtries Jun 2020 #31
So, eBay is now Scientology? n/t OnlinePoker Jun 2020 #22
I wish I could find what was written in the newsletter whopis01 Jun 2020 #23
Imagine having the time to do this? RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #25
And one of them (Brian Gilbert) was a former police captain. FM123 Jun 2020 #27
Possibly didn't care. When you don't have to be accountable for MarcA Jun 2020 #29
Fly larvae cate94 Jun 2020 #32

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
1. Company policies and profit above all
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jun 2020

Creates the toxic work environment by promoting sociopathy.

Profit needs to be put under the well being of people and the planet. If executives,and CEOs refuse to put people first for real take thier corporate charter and destroy it.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. That's some sick shit
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jun 2020

They should also be charged with cruelty to animals. And ordered to undergo psych evaluations.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
5. New meaning to the term 'throttled'
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jun 2020

Buyers have gamed the system. I got shaken down this week. Sellers aren't always on the up and up. I got a substitute part this week.

People laugh and ridicule me - lightly - because I don't use Amazon and proclaim the glory days of the internet behind us.

So this group of tech giant munchkins have reaffirmed my belief that bricks and mortar ain't dead.

The tactics read like they were invented in Midsomer Murders.

Interesting that the men were older, and women a generation younger.

appalachiablue

(41,103 posts)
8. Well said, all of that and then some. I also noticed
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 01:51 PM
Jun 2020

the age difference between the men and women. 'Not nice people,' ya think. Whoa.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
9. Was it 'impress the secretaries with threats against the customers'? Machismo lives!!
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jun 2020

And what a defense strategy!

"I was just trying to impress the ladies, Your Honor!"

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
11. It's risky to be a small seller on ebay (and probably amazon)
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:01 PM
Jun 2020

The buyer just has to say the item wasn't as described to get a refund. Sure they are supposed to send it back, but nothing prevents them from sending back a brick. I stopped selling stuff on there because it was too stressful. Large sellers might be able to absorb those losses, but small sellers can't handle it.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
18. Agreed
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:55 PM
Jun 2020

Not only that, but I just can't buy assertions that people can earn in the 6 figures on Amazon.

I was an Amazon seller for just over two years. After the monthly and per item fees, I never made any money. Pricing is a race to the bottom, and if Amazon carries the product there is no way I can match the price, especially with Prime. I canceled my account last year and see no reason to reconsider.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,454 posts)
6. Any corporation running its own spy agency
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jun 2020

and dirty tricks department should have its corporate charter revoked, and the entire comp[any disbanded.

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
15. Snowden revealed how much of the US state surveillance is in service of corporations, so it's not
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 02:22 PM
Jun 2020

as if corporate surveillance hasn't been around for a long time. eBay, a Fortune 500 company, and is in good company when it comes to surveillance.

erronis

(15,178 posts)
33. Any for-profit company that doesn't spy on its competitors, customers is not fulfilling its
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 06:34 PM
Jun 2020

obligations to the shareholders (if it is a C-Corp).

Maybe my statement is a bit too broadly-painted, but this has been the excuse of the C-suites to cover their ruthless tactics.

It's the bottom line.
The quarter's results.
The yearly results.
The return-on-investment.

Rarely does a publicly-traded company talk about "doing good" for people/world/customers.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
7. wow.
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jun 2020

i'm at a loss for words. i'm supposing that each of these suspects are educated professionals?

hard to process.

erronis

(15,178 posts)
26. Educated? perhaps. Professional? in some sense. Ethical? NO. Problem with business is that it wants
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 04:29 PM
Jun 2020

the first two: educated (even with fake credentials) and professional (whatever that means.)

Business aka capitalism doesn't want ethics. In fact it gives you demerits if you display ethics.

Harvard and many other institutions have built up their tidy endowments by bestowing MBAs for courses totally devoid of ethics. Same can probably be said for many other segments including, unfortunately, the medical profession. The ultimate example of throwing out ethics is the current legal and law-enforcement "professions".

Until we get back to realizing that what we're dealing with are people with real lives, no matter which side of the desk you are sitting; until we treat each other as equal humans, we will continue to fail. And our society and world will fail.

barbtries

(28,769 posts)
30. so true.
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 05:07 PM
Jun 2020

i've often pondered how it is that these people can be comfortable siphoning off the wealth of the nation on the backs of poor and struggling people. How they square their boundless greed with the reality of poverty and the wealth gap widening to an unsustainable level. Why corporate america values the "shareholder" more than the people actually doing the work. I have more or less concluded that their education contributed to their lack of conscience, that by some twisted measure they feel they are fulfilling their role in this respect.

Not limited to the US I'm sure, but whew, we are one sick nation.

erronis

(15,178 posts)
34. Agree. I've wondered about how they can feel like they can steal the nation/world's wealth
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 06:43 PM
Jun 2020

without feeling some sense of guilt.

They are also in survival mode. They think their world is threatened by an imminent (rapture/non-white/non-xian/youthful/liberal) onslaught.

They head towards their bunkers. If in the top 0.01% perhaps in New Zealand. Poorer ones (top 0.1%) in underground cellars in Idaho/etc.. The really lower-class upper-class (top 1%) just dig a hole under their multi-million mansion in Malibu and stock it with plenty of liquor/drugs/etc.)

Response to Mrs. Overall (Original post)

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
20. Rethugs say corporations are people. Lock eBay's ass up.
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 03:15 PM
Jun 2020

Reading this, we can safely wager this warped thinking is ingrained in their corporate culture......

Makes me think of stuff we read about regarding the Mafia.

whopis01

(3,491 posts)
23. I wish I could find what was written in the newsletter
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 03:44 PM
Jun 2020

It must have been pretty accurate to inspire that kind of attack.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
27. And one of them (Brian Gilbert) was a former police captain.
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 04:37 PM
Jun 2020

Did he not know that what he and his co-horts were doing was a federal crime....

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
29. Possibly didn't care. When you don't have to be accountable for
Mon Jun 15, 2020, 05:03 PM
Jun 2020

your actions it's a feature not a glitch. Notice one of the others had been in charge
of safety and security. What better position could there be for an authoritarian.

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