Secret Service walks back statement that no chemical agents were used on protesters at Lafayette Squ

[riversedge]

Source: the hill



Secret Service walks back statement that no chemical agents were used on protesters at Lafayette Square

By J. Edward Moreno - 06/13/20 03:59 PM EDT

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Both the Secret Service and U.S. Park Police (USPP) initially denied claims of using force on protesters, despite several in-person accounts and footage.

In an amended statement released Saturday afternoon, the Secret Service said after further review, it determined that “an agency employee used pepper spray on June 1st during efforts to secure the area near Lafayette Park.”

They said the officer used pepper spray in response to an “assaultive individual.”


Congressional Democrats in the Homeland Security Committee have launched a probe asking why chemical agents were used to clear those peacefully protesting the death of George Floyd, a black man who died in Minneapolis police custody on May 25.

Park Police spokesman last Friday said it was a "mistake" to say no tear gas was used on protesters...........................................................

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Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/502611-secret-service-walks-back-statement-that-no-chemical-agents-were-used

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Sure took them long enough!

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[mr_lebowski]

1. Doesn't sound like they're admitting they used tear gas, which is different from pepper spray ...

Did they?

[ProfessorGAC]

4. He Used The Words Tear Gas

Says they shouldn't have said tear gas was not used.
So, he did say it.
But, I don't believe the part about the guy they can sprayed was "assaultive". They made that up.

[Igel]

13. I've seen reporters cite people's words in such strange ways,

I want the actual quote with video.

There was a case years ago where a person interviewed said that he didn't use certain words but the reporter put those words in quotation marks.

Court ruled that the actual words didn't need to be used if it's something the interviewee could have said.

Which struck me as insane. Video is nice. Even if it can be edited.

[Major Nikon]

14. Pepper spray is tear gas

Tear gas is an umbrella term that encapsulates a group of chemical irritants. Although many people associate “tear gas” exclusively with CS because it was the first one in wide use, it is not the only one.

[mr_lebowski]

16. Okay, well most people think of 'tear gas' as something that is shot in canisters

And has an 'area of effect' (to use a gaming term) in terms of damage, it being a vaporous substance.

Whereas 'pepper spray' is understood to be something applied to a particular person via a 'spray' in a liquid form.

I'm not suggesting there's nothing wrong with Pepper Spraying protesters, to be clear, and of course it will make somebody tear up.

But 'tear gassing' people, in the common parlance, would be more egregious in the situation because it's indiscriminate.

It's not really incorrect to say 'we didn't tear gas people, we pepper sprayed one person'. People understand them to be different actions.

See what I'm saying?

[Major Nikon]

17. No I don't see what you are saying

First of all OC(pepper spray), CS and CN all can and do have the same the form and all can and do have the same delivery methods. Next WUSA9 recovered both CS and OC canisters shot by the Park Police indiscriminately at protesters. So not only is what you are assuming inaccurate, it’s not what happened.



https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/protests/tear-gas-protesters-lafayette-square-park-police-new-video-evidence/65-c39fb767-b114-41d6-bcbb-530b3823d8e7

[mr_lebowski]

19. I'm not assuming I know what happened, that's why I asked ...

Regardless of everything you just said ... the chemicals all being in the same class is not especially relevant to my question.

When one hears the term 'teared-gassed the crowd' it is considered by many (including myself) as a more egregious act than 'pepper spraying' a particular individual.

I was wondering if they used the indiscriminate 'area-of-effect' type of 'tear gas' ... any type.

Sounds like you're saying that they did. Which means they're lying when they imply that they only pepper-sprayed one individual.

So, thank you, that's what I wanted to know.

[whopis01]

15. They say they didn't us CN or CS gas.

They said the mistake was using the term “tear gas” because pepper spray can be considered “tear gas”.

[Major Nikon]

18. They lied about that too

[whopis01]

20. I'm not saying they didn't.

I was just clarifying what they said.

[Major Nikon]

21. I understand

I’m just pointing out they lied about tear gassing the crowd, which they walked back and they are still lying about using CS.

[whopis01]

23. It is a good point to be making. n/t

[Gothmog]

2. trump told the Secrete Service to lie and they are not backing up trump's lie

[BComplex]

3. I love that poster/picture. That is so friggin' true!

[Lock him up.]

8. Me 2. I wonder what would have happened if there really was a vengeful deity...

... mmm

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Lock him up.

GOTV

[Old Crow]

5. What about the CS military-grade tear gas canister that was found onsite by news teams?

Lies, lies, and more lies.

Video report showing CS tear gas canister (CS canister shown @ 1:15)

[soothsayer]

6. Exactly. This makes it sound like a tiny can of mace

...from an officer’s purse used in self defense, as opposed to jackbooted thugs lobbing tear gas willy nilly at peaceful protesters.

[niyad]

7. Really, SS, we all saw the videos. Dozens of them. Quit lying.

[Cha]

9. BLOTUS TEAR GASSED AMERICANS TO GET A PHOTO OP!

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TY for this, rivers!

[not fooled]

10. Bwahaahaa

another part of gov't calling out red don's lies.

First the military, now this.

Good luck with your coup, asshole.

[mpcamb]

11. Good work on the part of Congerssional DEMS; they made them own up to their lie.

[trof]

12. 'assualtive individual'?

That's not even a word.
Cop talk is dumb.

[riversedge]

22. BUT #BillBarr and #Trump continue to spread the lie that teargas was not used!!