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groundloop

(11,518 posts)
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:39 PM Jun 2020

NASCAR driver quits after Confederate flag ban: 'All you are doing is f--ing one group'

Source: Sporting News

Ray Ciccarelli announced the end of his NASCAR Truck Series career with a furious Facebook post on Wednesday shortly after NASCAR banned Confederate flags from all events.

Ciccarelli, 50, has participated in 18 Truck Series races over the past four years, though none in 2020. He has finished in the top 10 once — a No. 9 placing at the Michigan International Speedway last year.

"Well its been a fun ride and dream come true but if this is the direction Nascar is headed we will not participate after the 2020 season is over," Ciccarelli announced in a Facebook post (all misspellings are his own). "I don't believe in kneeling during Anthem nor taken ppl right to fly whatever flag they love.

"I could care less about the Confederate Flag but there are ppl that do and it doesn't make them a racist all you are doing is f—ing one group to cater to another."

Read more: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/motorsports/news/nascar-driver-quits-after-confederate-flag-ban-all-you-are-doing-is-f-ing-one-group/4kfjwng3qx2u1vdsntff82jdc



I'm sure he will be sorely missed..... wait a minute - Ray who??????
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NASCAR driver quits after Confederate flag ban: 'All you are doing is f--ing one group' (Original Post) groundloop Jun 2020 OP
--- don't let the door.... 3Hotdogs Jun 2020 #1
Good luck Raymond richdj25 Jun 2020 #2
A future sports director... IggleDuer Jun 2020 #12
Who will we get to finish last.... OneBlueDotBama Jun 2020 #3
it sure does make him mad eShirl Jun 2020 #4
I guess he got tired of WINNING... kysrsoze Jun 2020 #5
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! relayerbob Jun 2020 #13
Why are you mocking him? TheCowsCameHome Jun 2020 #17
If you ain't First, you're last! maxrandb Jun 2020 #52
No one ever told me that NASCAR held truck races. NCjack Jun 2020 #6
Yeah for years, even more boring that regular NASCAR Bengus81 Jun 2020 #45
A loser in a sport nobody ever even heard of. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #83
Bye, Felicia. And BTW, your last name s/be pronounced 'Chick-a-relli' not siss-a- relli as I see yo CurtEastPoint Jun 2020 #7
"I could care less about the Confederate Flag but there are ppl that do EarlG Jun 2020 #8
So he *does* care about the Confederate flag. Different Drummer Jun 2020 #57
Would you like some cheese with that whine? grumpyduck Jun 2020 #9
They're fucking the ghost of racism past. Baitball Blogger Jun 2020 #10
So he agrees you should fly a racist flag but you CANT kneel in protest. Eliot Rosewater Jun 2020 #11
F him if he can't see that the Conederate flag is a symbol of hate meant to intimidate non whites. n iluvtennis Jun 2020 #14
No doubt his new carreer move will be one more sour blog on how the liberals have 'runed' everything Ford_Prefect Jun 2020 #15
...and take your losing record with you. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2020 #16
From Twitter profile: C Moon Jun 2020 #18
Well that's it for me. I'll never watch Nascar again. Oh wait I've never watched it before. My bad. usaf-vet Jun 2020 #19
Racism isn't only in the south, there's plenty to go around. groundloop Jun 2020 #48
I never said it was only in the south. What i said was i saw pure "whites only" racism in the south. usaf-vet Jun 2020 #78
Good! That's the kind of people that need to leave anyway. Maraya1969 Jun 2020 #20
Who?!? durablend Jun 2020 #21
What about a Nazi flag? The Hammer and Sickle? maxsolomon Jun 2020 #22
Fly them flags Traildogbob Jun 2020 #39
NASCAR better hurry up and ban Nazi flags or the good kacekwl Jun 2020 #41
Aww...another whiny snowflake redneck. llmart Jun 2020 #23
+1 nt Xipe Totec Jun 2020 #71
They'll still fly the confederate flag at every nascar race. truthisfreedom Jun 2020 #24
*snort* Nevilledog Jun 2020 #81
If you fly the traitor flag, you are a traitor. roamer65 Jun 2020 #25
What's his issue? NASCAR is discriminating against racists? PaulRevere08 Jun 2020 #26
Wow! Another NASCAR truck "legend" bites the dust. SergeStorms Jun 2020 #27
This. Talitha Jun 2020 #56
Next week he'll be nominated for Asst. Secretary of Transportation tinrobot Jun 2020 #28
The guy is 0 for 32 in his driving "career". Maybe Uber is hiring? George II Jun 2020 #29
Lol DesertRat Jun 2020 #35
Best finish 33rd (2019) Major Nikon Jun 2020 #51
And, Laps Completed In 2020? ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #72
Rage quitting seems to have lost its meaning when he was out the door anyway Major Nikon Jun 2020 #80
Just A Pointless Pout ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #82
No it wasn't MichMan Jun 2020 #84
Race vs overall Major Nikon Jun 2020 #86
Correct, but he only ran in 9 of the 23 races on the schedule MichMan Jun 2020 #87
Regardless that was the best he ever did in the truck championship series Major Nikon Jun 2020 #88
I've often said... cab67 Jun 2020 #30
Go fly "whatever flag you love" somewhere else. And one more thing... FailureToCommunicate Jun 2020 #31
It is stories like this that give me some added hope for real change... Moostache Jun 2020 #32
Will he be the next Medal of Freedom recipient? DesertRat Jun 2020 #33
NASCAR's opinion represents the United States opinion. So, feel free to quit that too and piss off! TheFourthMind Jun 2020 #34
Bye bye don't let the door hit you on the way out! kimbutgar Jun 2020 #36
Damn....I was just now going to post that ashredux Jun 2020 #37
Great minds think alike!!!! kimbutgar Jun 2020 #38
And nothing of value is lost! Initech Jun 2020 #40
Yeah. That group is a bunch of fucking redneck traitor admirers. Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #42
And which group would that be, pray tell? Racists, bigots, sore losers, white supremacists, and Nitram Jun 2020 #43
Nobody had any idea he even exist until today Snake Plissken Jun 2020 #44
Wait until they all "realize" the cars always turn to the left because SOCIALISM! nt Gore1FL Jun 2020 #46
He's to NASCAR what Trump is to running Casino's........... Bengus81 Jun 2020 #47
Why wait until the end of the season? BHDem53 Jun 2020 #49
Well... Major Nikon Jun 2020 #50
I don't know a thing about nascar tom_kelly Jun 2020 #53
#TreasonRag majdrfrtim Jun 2020 #54
Flying A Confederate Flag Should Be A Felony Says This White Guy DanieRains Jun 2020 #55
Boo fucking hoo. Cry me a river. They're such victims. catbyte Jun 2020 #58
I have a few words for him. LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #59
So he's ok w someone flying the Nazi Flag 'cause they love it? JDC Jun 2020 #60
GOOD Augiedog Jun 2020 #61
More likely is he didnt have the money to continue racing. Its NOT cheap. oldsoftie Jun 2020 #62
Correct. As far as I know he was unsponsored as well MichMan Jun 2020 #85
Piss off Ray. hadEnuf Jun 2020 #63
It's a fox news audition judging from his record padah513 Jun 2020 #64
Has been, warmfeet Jun 2020 #65
Well....bye. paleotn Jun 2020 #66
Better headline LogicFirst Jun 2020 #67
Xrays of Ray Ciccarelli's head show NOTHING. NoMoreRepugs Jun 2020 #68
I have news for this idiot -The Confederate Flag weissmam Jun 2020 #69
It's beyond racist. Yavin4 Jun 2020 #77
And, that disgusting, filthy rag represents an enemy of the U.S. Progressive Jones Jun 2020 #89
What a way to go out on the bottom? Brainfodder Jun 2020 #70
good riddance mutherfocker beachbumbob Jun 2020 #73
I'm sure his dozens of fans are disappointed ... jb5150 Jun 2020 #74
Yes, we are f**cking one group. Of RACISTS, Mr. Succkarelli. flibbitygiblets Jun 2020 #75
So, Ray Ciccarelli would be fine with flying the Nazi flag? Yavin4 Jun 2020 #76
'All you are doing is f--ing one group' soldierant Jun 2020 #79
Hey, if that's the hill he wants to die on... LudwigPastorius Jun 2020 #90

OneBlueDotBama

(1,384 posts)
3. Who will we get to finish last....
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:43 PM
Jun 2020

Ray excelled in last place finishes...

from a twitter thread on his racing accomplishments.

CurtEastPoint

(18,641 posts)
7. Bye, Felicia. And BTW, your last name s/be pronounced 'Chick-a-relli' not siss-a- relli as I see yo
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jun 2020

prefer. Stop bastardizing Italian. Asshole.

EarlG

(21,947 posts)
8. "I could care less about the Confederate Flag but there are ppl that do
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:46 PM
Jun 2020

and it doesn't make them a racist."

Incorrect.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
11. So he agrees you should fly a racist flag but you CANT kneel in protest.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:50 PM
Jun 2020

Fuck you, you no good fucking RACIST PIG

Ford_Prefect

(7,895 posts)
15. No doubt his new carreer move will be one more sour blog on how the liberals have 'runed' everything
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 04:58 PM
Jun 2020

and selling his latest take on BBQ equipment.....

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
18. From Twitter profile:
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:01 PM
Jun 2020

"Ray Ciccarelli is an American professional stock car racing driver. He currently competes part-time in the NASCAR Gander RV & Outdoors Truck Series..."

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
19. Well that's it for me. I'll never watch Nascar again. Oh wait I've never watched it before. My bad.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:03 PM
Jun 2020

Maybe it's because my 4 years living in the South taught me what racism looks like and it always seems to happen under a Confederate Flag nearby. Nothing has changed since I left the south 51 years ago.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
48. Racism isn't only in the south, there's plenty to go around.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jun 2020

In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but Minneapolis isn't in the south.

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
78. I never said it was only in the south. What i said was i saw pure "whites only" racism in the south.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 12:28 AM
Jun 2020

And in Minneapolis, it was a white cop killing a black man. FIRST! It didn't start the other way around.

If you throw a lit match onto a pile of dry fuel. You can hardly blame the dry fuel for igniting the fire.

maxsolomon

(33,327 posts)
22. What about a Nazi flag? The Hammer and Sickle?
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:10 PM
Jun 2020

How about a "Fuck Ray Ciccarelli" flag? As long as it's the flag I love, right?

The Seattle Sounders told supporters they couldn't wave an Antifa flag last year. Everyone got over it.

Think more, Ray.

Traildogbob

(8,731 posts)
39. Fly them flags
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:42 PM
Jun 2020

How about ISIS flags, Taliban flag, Muslim flag, Jewish flag. All those OK to NASCAR fans? One less gas guzzling air polluting waste of medal. MAGA!

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
41. NASCAR better hurry up and ban Nazi flags or the good
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:53 PM
Jun 2020

people will fly them instead you know to own libs.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
25. If you fly the traitor flag, you are a traitor.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jun 2020

If you fly a racist flag, you are a racist.
That fucking flag is both. Fuck off, Ray.

SergeStorms

(19,199 posts)
27. Wow! Another NASCAR truck "legend" bites the dust.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:21 PM
Jun 2020
With one top 10 finish in his entire career, I imagine getting sponsorship for 2021 is the actual reason for quitting. Without sponsorship no one can afford to race in NASCAR, and with the corona virus pandemic many sponsors are rethinking their budgets for next year. I imagine there will be more than a few drivers who can't gain sponsorship anymore. Are they going to use this lame "confederate flag" excuse for quitting as well?

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
80. Rage quitting seems to have lost its meaning when he was out the door anyway
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 12:50 AM
Jun 2020

With that kind of record he wasn’t going to get his contract renewed anyway.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
86. Race vs overall
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jun 2020

His best finish overall in the truck series championship was 33rd in 2019 and there's usually a max of around 36 drivers so he was either dead last or very close to it.

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
87. Correct, but he only ran in 9 of the 23 races on the schedule
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jun 2020

He drove his own unsponsored truck on a part time basis and was quite underfunded, so that may have had more to do with his withdrawing than anything he says.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
88. Regardless that was the best he ever did in the truck championship series
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 06:43 PM
Jun 2020

The reason he couldn't get sponsors is because he sucked. But yes, he almost certainly wasn't coming back again anyway, so his rage quit was utterly meaningless. If anything he almost certainly did it trying to get a sponsorship for the rest of this year so he can have a 'change of heart' later. Either way he is a loser that just isn't ready to deal with the fact he has no future in racing.

cab67

(2,992 posts)
30. I've often said...
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:28 PM
Jun 2020

...that had the Civil War ended differently, it wouldn't be NASCAR. It would be CASCAR.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
32. It is stories like this that give me some added hope for real change...
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:32 PM
Jun 2020

Too many times to count I have heard the call for change in policing and in racial and economic justice and only been disappointed to see some special interest group like a powerful police union or an aggrieved set of specific white people make a fuss and defuse the momentum...

Not. this. time.

This assclown is met with derision and mocking for wanting to 'honor the Confederacy' (i.e. - why won't ANYONE PLEASE THINK OF THE WHITE PEOPLE in my best mocking, sarcastic "Simpsons" Maud Flanders inspired voice).

The NFL was waylaid by its young stars like Patrick Mahomes and others basically TELLING Roger Goddell "look HERE asshole, YOU and the OWNERS are not getting the last word any longer on this issue, so get on the right side of history FINALLY"...

Even Drew Brees, for all the hurt his mistake caused, he self-corrected, listened to those closet to him that were hurt by his words and apologized with a pledge to do better. He was sincere and showed remorse that he stood by even when the ORange shitgibbon tried to stir the pot by saying the should NOT APOLOGIZE...

The clarion call of change - new attitudes, new expectations, new recognition that white people are as much or more responsible for generating and nourishing htis change than black people or other minorities are - has rung out and is being heard.

For the first time in a very long time, I find myself daring to hope again, daring to believe that THIS time, we are going to accelerate the bending of the arc of progress to justice more than continue to wait for it.

So you go on now Ray Ciccarelli, and please take any of your Confederate Flag loving racists and morons with you...you will not be missed, but maybe one day your heart will understand what your head seems incapable of today.

TheFourthMind

(343 posts)
34. NASCAR's opinion represents the United States opinion. So, feel free to quit that too and piss off!
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jun 2020

I hear Russia's nice. Stop by Andersonville on your way out.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
43. And which group would that be, pray tell? Racists, bigots, sore losers, white supremacists, and
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:58 PM
Jun 2020

Nazis?

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
44. Nobody had any idea he even exist until today
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 05:59 PM
Jun 2020

I guess this was his only way of getting anyone to notice he's quitting

Now he'll be known as that guy who nobody knew until he tripped on his way out and broke his fall with his face.

tom_kelly

(959 posts)
53. I don't know a thing about nascar
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 06:26 PM
Jun 2020

If I had to guess, this fella was on his way out and wanted to stick it to the libtards

majdrfrtim

(317 posts)
54. #TreasonRag
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 06:27 PM
Jun 2020

#TreasonRag = "The Flag of Choice For Losers"®
#TreasonRag = "When Your Heritage *IS* Hate"®
#TreasonRag = "When Your Swastika Isn't Enough Hate For You"®

JDC

(10,127 posts)
60. So he's ok w someone flying the Nazi Flag 'cause they love it?
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jun 2020

F him. He can go back to the demo derby or whatever bs he thinks he can do going forward.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
62. More likely is he didnt have the money to continue racing. Its NOT cheap.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 06:49 PM
Jun 2020

And running your own car is though

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
77. It's beyond racist.
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:58 PM
Jun 2020

It's the belief that it's okay to force another human being into life long bondage based on the color of their skin.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
89. And, that disgusting, filthy rag represents an enemy of the U.S.
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 07:22 PM
Jun 2020

It should be a felony with a mandatory jail sentence to display it on US soil.

Yavin4

(35,438 posts)
76. So, Ray Ciccarelli would be fine with flying the Nazi flag?
Thu Jun 11, 2020, 11:57 PM
Jun 2020

"I don't believe in kneeling during Anthem nor taken ppl right to fly whatever flag they love." --Ray Ciccarelli

LudwigPastorius

(9,139 posts)
90. Hey, if that's the hill he wants to die on...
Fri Jun 12, 2020, 11:38 PM
Jun 2020

I'm sure Walmart can make room somewhere for one more greeter.
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