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Judi Lynn

(160,682 posts)
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:26 PM Sep 2012

Allen West, Tea Party star, uses Patrick Murphy's mugshot in ad

Source: Associated Press

Allen West, Tea Party star, uses Patrick Murphy's mugshot in ad
Published: September 29, 2012 8:51 AM
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Tea Party star Allen West, in his bid to hold onto his House seat with a little more than a month to go before the election, is using his opponent's bleary mug shot from nine years ago as the focus of a blistering ad.

On a single night in February 2003, the ad released Friday notes, West was on an Army base in Texas, preparing to go to war. College student Patrick Murphy, meanwhile, was being arrested outside a Miami-area nightclub after an alleged drunken brawl, the ad says.

"Two men, a country in crisis. You decide," says a narrator.

The ad from the Florida Republican freshman congressman star uses dramatic music and visuals of a scope's crosshairs to emulate a high-tech spy flick. Murphy's mug shot plays a prominent role in the spot.

Murphy's campaign responded by pointing out that Murphy was just 19 when he was arrested and that West was later reprimanded for his conduct in Iraq and was 42 at the time.


Read more: http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nation/allen-west-tea-party-star-uses-patrick-murphy-s-mugshot-in-ad-1.4054958

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Allen West, Tea Party star, uses Patrick Murphy's mugshot in ad (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2012 OP
Koch money goes a long way. Expect to see tons of these in less prominent races. freshwest Sep 2012 #1
So Allen West Wants to Talk About His Military Record... Judi Lynn Sep 2012 #2
This ad shows me Allen West is concerned he's losing... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #4
I agree, Drunken Irish.........Allen West WAS losing. TheDebbieDee Sep 2012 #28
+1 hrmjustin Sep 2012 #49
“spoiled brat who knows nothing of duty, honor or service.” caveat_imperator Sep 2012 #21
And you thought the ad juxtaposing Max Cleland and Bin Laden was low enough. alp227 Sep 2012 #31
that ad mad me sick and mad. I hate him for doing that ad. hrmjustin Sep 2012 #50
You can bet also that if Murphy should win this West will not concede for weeks. That's monmouth Sep 2012 #3
I'm sure west won't concede at all. caveat_imperator Sep 2012 #20
Theres a ton of shit on West's military record but...... busterbrown Sep 2012 #5
No, if West uses his military record, Murphy is free to bring it up, too. Occulus Sep 2012 #7
Obama's whole strategy for 3 years was not busterbrown Sep 2012 #10
Absolutely agree. Put his military record on the record. kiranon Sep 2012 #13
Murphy needs to fight, but let surrogates do the real nasty stuff... radhika Sep 2012 #33
Exactly. Murphy leave his Military shit for others. Beat the hell out of him on policies! busterbrown Sep 2012 #39
When will you ever learn that when hit, you HIT HARDER ! You SMASH THEIR EYEBALLS IN. RBInMaine Sep 2012 #8
Hey Mr. macho busterbrown Sep 2012 #11
Hey busterbrown Jack Sprat Sep 2012 #36
rather new, but my only objective is to be as helpful as possible Barack's Campaign........... busterbrown Sep 2012 #40
Say again? You have got to be shitting me.... busterbrown Sep 2012 #48
hey heaven05 Sep 2012 #14
Not smart in this particular incident. busterbrown Sep 2012 #18
no problem heaven05 Sep 2012 #19
I've got yours as well! busterbrown Sep 2012 #22
John Kerry did it your way SemperEadem Sep 2012 #42
Obama didn't attack? Bain Capital? Tax Returns? 47% comments? CreekDog Sep 2012 #38
hey heaven05 Sep 2012 #46
This sense of fairplay and "taking the high road" on the part of Dems is one TheDebbieDee Sep 2012 #29
Read replies more closely! busterbrown Sep 2012 #34
Neither Murphy nor any other candidate can count TheDebbieDee Sep 2012 #37
So bragging about the false premises The Wizard Sep 2012 #45
I'd like to believe that. We can only hope but.... busterbrown Sep 2012 #47
Oh, is that what you think? Jack Sprat Sep 2012 #35
Well, that bit him in the ass rather quickly. savannah43 Sep 2012 #6
Must Read itssimplestupid Sep 2012 #9
Make West talk about The Wizard Sep 2012 #23
Absolutely Right StevePaulson Sep 2012 #25
Your logic doesn't follow - President Obama ordered the killing of a US Citizen without trial and he 24601 Sep 2012 #44
I live in the area. West's campaign has been dirty and spiteful. Akoto Sep 2012 #12
Does anyone Live hear or know the District Well ? JI7 Sep 2012 #15
West claims he was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army.......... mrmpa Sep 2012 #16
I don't know who the people are you know, but... OnlinePoker Sep 2012 #32
Not For Real elbloggoZY27 Sep 2012 #17
Today's Tea Party StevePaulson Sep 2012 #27
West Avoided Court Marshal StevePaulson Sep 2012 #24
if I had Bush's DUI mugshot in 2000, I would gladly have turned it over to the DNC. n/t brewens Sep 2012 #26
The name Patrick Murphy sounds familiar, since a Patrick Murphy represented US House dist. PA-8 alp227 Sep 2012 #30
So, that Ollie North-acting fella is a war criminal, eh? Gabby Hayes Sep 2012 #41
That's a tough ad. Probably the most hard hitting I have seen this cycle jzodda Sep 2012 #43

Judi Lynn

(160,682 posts)
2. So Allen West Wants to Talk About His Military Record...
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:41 PM
Sep 2012

So Allen West Wants to Talk About His Military Record...
George Zornick on September 28, 2012 - 5:03 PM ET

Tea Party superstar Representative Allen West released one of the toughest attack ads of the campaign season on Friday, contrasting his military career with his Democratic opponent’s arrest as a teenager following a drunken bar night—complete with a mug shot:

&feature=player_embedded

Transcript:

Feb. 16, 2003, Fort Hood, Texas. Lt. Col. Allen West had just received deployment orders, and prepares his men to go to war. That night, South Beach, Miami: Patrick Murphy is thrown out of a club for fighting, covered in alcohol, and unable to stand. Murphy then confronts and verbally assaults a police officer. Patrick Murphy was arrested and taken to jail. Two men, a country in crisis—you decide.

To make the point even more bluntly, the West campaign put out a press release along with the ad saying that Murphy is a “spoiled brat who knows nothing of duty, honor or service.”

The voters of Florida’s 18th District will have to decide if they want to hold Murphy’s run-in with the law against him. But it’s odd that West trumpets “duty, honor and service” in comparison to the transgression, while touting his military career—because his record there is, by almost any measure, more ignominious than an arrest for drunk and disorderly conduct.

More:
http://www.thenation.com/blog/170240/so-allen-west-wants-talk-about-his-military-record#
 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
28. I agree, Drunken Irish.........Allen West WAS losing.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:53 PM
Sep 2012

But I'm not so sure that that smack-talking POS is still losing now..........

caveat_imperator

(193 posts)
21. “spoiled brat who knows nothing of duty, honor or service.”
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:52 PM
Sep 2012

That describes west perfectly. Maybe one day it'll register in his head that he's projecting (I think he really does believe the crap he spews, sadly).

alp227

(32,078 posts)
31. And you thought the ad juxtaposing Max Cleland and Bin Laden was low enough.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:03 PM
Sep 2012


The Saxby Chambliss ad has 42 likes, 102 dislikes on YouTube. Yet West's ad has about 700 likes and only **80** dislikes! Amazing.

monmouth

(21,078 posts)
3. You can bet also that if Murphy should win this West will not concede for weeks. That's
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:44 PM
Sep 2012

just how awful a person he is. Cannot.stand.him...

caveat_imperator

(193 posts)
20. I'm sure west won't concede at all.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:41 PM
Sep 2012

He'll spend the next two years lying that he was robbed of his 'victory' at the polls.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
5. Theres a ton of shit on West's military record but......
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 06:56 PM
Sep 2012

Murphy needs to stay above West's insanity and go after his
message of destruction to all social programs including
Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security. Being 19 and drunk
is no big deal. West will use his war record no matter how
horrendous to remind people that war is hell and he was serving
his country. I think most people will feel that West went way
out of bounds by posting a 19 year old's drunk mug shot and will
remind them how bat shit crazy he is.
Stay above West's insanity. Thats what I think.

Occulus

(20,599 posts)
7. No, if West uses his military record, Murphy is free to bring it up, too.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:23 PM
Sep 2012

We tried "staying above it all" and "not descending to their level" and telling the truth all the time, and there's a time and place for all of that, but their lies travel round the world while our truths are putting on their pants.

If we don't attack right back, we're fighting a defensive war, and you can't 'win' a war from simple defense. Now that a military record is on the table, Murphy should use it to his advantage.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
10. Obama's whole strategy for 3 years was not
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:38 PM
Sep 2012

stepping into the mud with the lunatic tea baggers. Look at the results.
West is not lying about Murphy's drunk arrest
but it is showing what an asshole he is.. Others democrats can point to West's
military conduct, however Murphy should stay
clear, stick to the issues and ride Obama's coattails.

radhika

(1,008 posts)
33. Murphy needs to fight, but let surrogates do the real nasty stuff...
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:18 AM
Sep 2012

Murphy should stay clean and strong. Clearly Obama did not have the right strategy, or frankly he just lacked guts.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
8. When will you ever learn that when hit, you HIT HARDER ! You SMASH THEIR EYEBALLS IN.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:25 PM
Sep 2012

What is it? Some liberal wimpiness virus? Just what the hell is it? Will you please learn once and for all that when you get hit, you hit back and TWICE as fucking hard ! You address this. You get the fuck on the air and talk not only about how pathetically desperate West is, but you also SMASH HIM HARD over his SHITTY service record and then you SMASH the living shit out of him over what a CRAZY RADICAL BATSHIT NUTJOB he is. Get over the pussy wussy Mr. Nicey Nice shit, and learn that politics is WAR and the only way you respond to a batshit fucking whackjob bully like West is to SMASH the his fucking crazy batshit eyeballs through his skull and out the other side. (Politically speaking, that is.)

Need to learn how to grow some political balls? YouTube FDR, Truman, JFK, and Clinton. They'll teach you how.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
11. Hey Mr. macho
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:46 PM
Sep 2012

Are you saying to use the same tactics that the tea baggers used?
That isn't turning out so well for them.
Political strength is doing and saying the right thing at the right time
with patience and intelligence, Obama style!
"Smashing eyeballs and growing balls", sounds great but doesn't
accomplish a thing. Grow up!
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
14. hey
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:00 PM
Sep 2012

you can be in my foxhole anytime. You are right. namy pamby just don't make it this time round. I don't see macho here, rather I see truth in these words. Hit em hard and continuously.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
18. Not smart in this particular incident.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:15 PM
Sep 2012

This is not about fighting the battle its about winning the war.

You must have been one of the guys who were really pissed off
when Obama didn't attack back for 3 years. I was pissed off at
him as well. He taught me something about how to fight.
Don't sit there and call me "namy pamby", I have never backed
down from a brawl. "Hit em hard and continuously" sounds like
a phrase from an old pissed off teabagger.
We must stay smart and pick our brawls effectively!
The smart tough guys are the ones I look up to and so does
most of the country.
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
19. no problem
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:26 PM
Sep 2012

yet it takes winning battles to eventually win the war. I wasn't calling you any names, just questioning. Finesse is fine and has it's place yet I've been in war, and while staying smart and finessing your enemy is one tactic that is right, in battle being tougher than your enemy is another tactic and by mixing and confusing your enemy with different tactics you will win. And they will respect you more. Been there, done that. Period. No teabagger, just know how to fight a teabagger, tooth and nail. It's got me this far with the myriad of racist and stupid enemies I have faced over the decades. You're entitled to approach this war in any manner YOU so choose. And if I happen to come upon your battle, I still got your back. Have a good one.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
22. I've got yours as well!
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:30 PM
Sep 2012

I can not tell you how those shits have gotten to me over the past 3 plus years.
I have spent many days pissed off at everything and everyone because of these scum.
Allen West might be the worst of all of them. He is an absolute psychopath!
Murphy with his boyish charm, and intelligence should let outside progressive
groups go after his military record while he harps on West's horrible political record.

I can already imagine West"s response. Patrick Murphy was out getting drunk and
getting arrested while I was serving in Iraq as a (bullshit, bullshit,) defending my
country against a Terrorist Govt. who was ready to attack our Homeland with biological
weapons and dirty bombs................... This is the conversation we don't want to have
with this idiot.

You can see by my rambling response how much anger I have towards West.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
38. Obama didn't attack? Bain Capital? Tax Returns? 47% comments?
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:52 AM
Sep 2012

didn't attack over Romney's opposition to the auto bailout?

your statement that Obama hasn't attacked is not based in reality.

secondly, the idea that it hasn't worked is also wrong.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
46. hey
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 12:14 PM
Sep 2012

you should look at the thread today of repug/robme extremist and what he says should be done with some people in that 47percent underclass of robme's statement. This proves you/me right about hitting hard, fast and in this case first. This guy is representative of a LOT of so- called americans, I call them nazis.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
29. This sense of fairplay and "taking the high road" on the part of Dems is one
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:59 PM
Sep 2012

of the reasons this country is in trouble now. If Dems won't fight for themselves during their election campaigns, what makes you think they'll fight for us IF they get to Washington DC.

Weak-kneed, overly-polite Dems that were TOO afraid to piss off anybody or have anybody think badly of them are one of the reasons the neocons were able to drag us into pre-emptively invading Iraq.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
34. Read replies more closely!
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:22 AM
Sep 2012

Murphy should attacked West on his political policies not his horrendous military record.
Leave that to outside progressive parties. They can kick his ass.
I'll say it once more. West's reply: I was inIraq serving as an officer protecting our country from a rogue dictator trying to destroy our homeland with dirty bombs and biological weapons. I put my life in harm's way whilePatrick Murphy was getting drunk, fighting with police officers and getting arrested.
This is a conversation Murphy should not be involved with.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
37. Neither Murphy nor any other candidate can count
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 02:14 AM
Sep 2012

on outside progressive voices to say and do for him what he can easily say and do for himself, and that is bring attention to the fact that Cong West may be guilty of war crimes by the improper interrogation of an Iraqi POW.

If Cong West wants to get in the mud and bring up Patrick Murphy's mistakes as a young man then Patrick Murphy should defend himself and call into question the bad decisions made by Cong West while serving in the US military.

Cong West knows he can't beat Murphy on the issues - that's why he's bringing up Murphy's past! After all, Murphy will have plenty of time to discuss the political policies AFTER he is elected - IF he is elected. Murphy would seem weak and stupid to insist on discussing policy while letting Cong West go on smearing his past - this mugshot could be Murphy's "Swift Boat".

Murphy should make sure that the pendulum that Cong West swings is swinging both ways!

The Wizard

(12,556 posts)
45. So bragging about the false premises
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 11:35 AM
Sep 2012

That killed innocent people is a winning strategy?
"West's reply: I was in Iraq serving as an officer protecting our country from a rogue dictator trying to destroy our homeland with dirty bombs and biological weapons."
Did you forget this?
What percentage of voters believe this? Normal people won't vote for a war criminal.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
47. I'd like to believe that. We can only hope but....
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 06:17 PM
Sep 2012

I'm hoping that the sliver of independents who are undecided in Murphy's
district, will know West"s fucked up military record but might be impressed
at the young Murphy"s decision not to bring it up.

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
35. Oh, is that what you think?
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 01:38 AM
Sep 2012

Just lay down and allow West's campaign to walk all over him? Maybe you should do campaign consulting for West. I'm sure he'd appreciate those thoughts. That's exactly what Repukes like best. They love to throw everything but the kitchen sink at us. Then they want us to be nice and accept the shit they have just thrown in our faces. No thanks, busterbrown. That's typical Repuke hustling for certain.

savannah43

(575 posts)
6. Well, that bit him in the ass rather quickly.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:13 PM
Sep 2012

It's imperative to get the stupid out of government as soon as possible.

itssimplestupid

(37 posts)
9. Must Read
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:35 PM
Sep 2012

The Real Allen West. Was linked to above/below. Read about how he tortured an innocent Iraqi and got a slap on the wrist. And you wonder why there were insurgents. It's because of maggots like West.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/170240/so-allen-west-wants-talk-about-his-military-record#

By the way Allen. I am serving my country by making sure every American possible knows your party, and every Republican politician is a piece of human feces.

http://www.RepublicansAreADisease.com

And West is one of the worst.

I can only imagine the intelligence of the average Republican voter in his district. I bet they are too ignorant to be considered mentally retarded.

The Wizard

(12,556 posts)
23. Make West talk about
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 09:35 PM
Sep 2012

war crimes. His military career was terminated when he was asked to "retire" because he tortured an innocent Iraqi in American custody. War crimes have no statute of limitations.
The vile son of a bitch should be kidnapped by international law enforcement and dragged off to The Hague for war crimes offenses.
Allen West is a war criminal, wash rinse repeat.

24601

(3,967 posts)
44. Your logic doesn't follow - President Obama ordered the killing of a US Citizen without trial and he
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 09:39 AM
Sep 2012

hasn't been arrested. Which crime is worse, scaring a prisoner with a shot near his head or murder? Under Bush, there were roughly 50 targeted murders over 8 years. Obama has had 343 in less than 4 years. (Source: Page 1P, 30 September 2012 Tampa Bay Times)

The political party of individual does not determine whether he/she will be arrested.

Akoto

(4,267 posts)
12. I live in the area. West's campaign has been dirty and spiteful.
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 07:53 PM
Sep 2012

His ads get personal and vicious. Truly unsavory stuff. It's enough to make me mute the television.

Of course, anything in the ads about him is patriotic sunshine and non-socialist rainbows! There's no need to examine his military record, say!

JI7

(89,289 posts)
15. Does anyone Live hear or know the District Well ?
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:07 PM
Sep 2012

just the fact that Allen West is not doing horribly bad makes me wonder about the people there.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
16. West claims he was a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army..........
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:12 PM
Sep 2012

I have a hard time believing that. Reason is that he claims he was a Lieutenant Colonel at the age of 42, most men & women I know in the Army at that age of 40-42 were at the rank of Captain readying for promotion to Major and a couple of these men & women I know were graduates of West Point.

OnlinePoker

(5,730 posts)
32. I don't know who the people are you know, but...
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:51 PM
Sep 2012

...the average age of a Lt Col in the army is 40 years and they have 18 years of service. The average of a full Colonel is 44-45.

 

elbloggoZY27

(283 posts)
17. Not For Real
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 08:13 PM
Sep 2012

The 2012 TEA PARTY is not the TEA PARTY of Boston Massachusetts of so many years ago.

Not even close.

StevePaulson

(174 posts)
27. Today's Tea Party
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:29 PM
Sep 2012

Today's tea party (teabaggers) would be working for the British, just like they are working for the billionaires right now.

StevePaulson

(174 posts)
24. West Avoided Court Marshal
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 10:25 PM
Sep 2012

If I remember right, West boasted of his torturing an Iraqi policeman.

A little more about why West was not court marshaled.

http://www.RepublicansAreADisease.com

Wes is a nutcase teabagger.

alp227

(32,078 posts)
30. The name Patrick Murphy sounds familiar, since a Patrick Murphy represented US House dist. PA-8
Sat Sep 29, 2012, 11:01 PM
Sep 2012

(The northeastern suburbs of Philadelphia). Patrick Joseph Murphy served from 2007-2011, preceded and replaced by Mike Fitzpatrick (R). Patrick Erin Murphy is an accountant from Ft. Lauderdale and Allen West's (D) challenger. I looked up the Florida Patrick Murphy on Wikipedia, and he describes himself as a moderate rather than liberal (in his words "ultra&quot Democrat. Allen West's ad was a low blow right there. If that's the best attack he's got against PM, West has NOTHING.

Gabby Hayes

(289 posts)
41. So, that Ollie North-acting fella is a war criminal, eh?
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 07:32 AM
Sep 2012

And a wannabe General James Mattoon Scott too. If ol' Lt. Catch 22 loses this election he's liable to get together with North and pull out that old martial order from Iran/Contra.

jzodda

(2,124 posts)
43. That's a tough ad. Probably the most hard hitting I have seen this cycle
Sun Sep 30, 2012, 08:31 AM
Sep 2012

Its probably going to be very effective unfortunately. I was really hoping to knock out this West character. This ad will probably have an effect on the outcome.

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