Trump says the US will designate Antifa as a terrorist organization
Source: CNN
President Trump has announced that the United States will designate Antifa as a terrorist organization, according to a tweet he sent Sunday.
Antifa, short for anti-fascists, describes a broad group of people whose political beliefs lean toward the left often the far left but do not conform with the Democratic Party platform.
Antifa positions can be hard to define, but many members support oppressed populations and protest the amassing of wealth by corporations and elites. Some employ radical or militant tactics to get their message across.
Some context: This designation comes as Trump and Attorney General Bill Barr have pointed to far left groups as responsible for many of the violent protests across the country.
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/george-floyd-protests-05-31-20/index.html
You will have to scroll down the page to see the story about Antifa.
AllaN01Bear
(17,355 posts)soldierant
(6,647 posts)reACTIONary
(5,749 posts)TomCADem
(17,378 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,270 posts)of peaceful protests, why haven't they formed a federal task force to protect peaceful demonstrations and arrest infiltrators? Why haven't they arrested anybody? In the absence of that it's all bullshit.
LakeVermilion
(1,022 posts)a membership list.
Eugene
(61,592 posts)"I have here in my hand a list of 205a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department." - Joe McCarthy
regnaD kciN
(26,035 posts)...that there is no "Antifa" organization. It just means the DoJ, police, etc., will be given carte blanche to label any leftist organization as such, and bring the full weight of the law against them, even without any evidence of actions, because they're "declared terrorists."
d_b
(7,451 posts)"Yes your honor, I plead guilty to opposing fascism."
He may as well have the US declare orange the best color while he's at it
LakeVermilion
(1,022 posts)any organization that they were tricked into joining.
justgamma
(3,660 posts)causes trouble? I've always thought that those people who are dressed in black with the face coverings and started the problems in the Antifa protests were infiltrators who just wanted to give them a bad name. They never looked like they were in with the protesters. Am I completely off the wall. If I'm not, then they have won.
reACTIONary
(5,749 posts)... or, perhaps, philosophies of praxis. You can find them on the internet, engage them in discussion, and judge them for yourself. (Not that I recommend it.) Something like Anonymous, IRL.
Because they are a detriment to legitimate protest movements, it is often claimed that they are agent provocateurs. And some may be. But they are definitely real, and they do show up.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)I thought law only applied to foreign organizations
muriel_volestrangler
(101,149 posts)From Northwestern University law Review, 2020: Considering a Domestic Terrorism Statute and its Alternatives: https://scholarlycommons.law.northwestern.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1283&context=nulr_online
So, yes, he'd have to make up a foreign HQ for "Antifa" that controls the people he wants to target in the USA. He may as well say it's run by Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
You'd have though CNN would have pointed that out, rather than just repeating what the orange idiot tweets without tying it to the real world laws.
pwb
(11,204 posts)That is a first. Winning?
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)SharonClark
(10,005 posts)DetlefK
(16,423 posts)"Antifa" doesn't even have a unified belief-system beyond a vague notion of being against Neonazis.
What exactly would Trump outlaw?
sandensea
(21,526 posts)The very vagueness of the target, makes it possible for them to include just about anyone in it.
Jabba-the-Don is trying to declare Democrats a "terrorist organization" - without doing so in so many words.
You are right.
regnaD kciN
(26,035 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)SBoy
(92 posts)captain jack
(316 posts)We won't even hear the words liberal or democrat or left anymore.
Lock him up.
(6,873 posts)marble falls
(56,358 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,153 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,817 posts)They were among those who liberated Holland and one of the extermination camps. They had no tolerance for fascism or racist behavior. They said so many times during reunions. They also thought W and the Neo-Con Cabinet were Chickenshit Warhawks for starting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Many, though not all, became involved in subsequent Civil Rights and Peace movement activities having seen what nationalized racism and industrialized warfare had done in Europe.
They would be both sad and angry over the events of the last few days. This is not the America they fought to preserve for all citizens to live in.
I am equally sure they would insist that Trump must go NOW. That he has so dishonored the job he pretends to do and the trust of the American People in the office of the President. That he has engaged in race-baiting as the leader of our government and has denigrated those who argued for a more peaceful resolution.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,153 posts)Stainless
(717 posts)Actually, it is more of a concept or an idea. I'm not a fascist but the orange fatboy constantly behaves like one.
Gothmog
(143,999 posts)SharonClark
(10,005 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)any non rumpster.
Progressive Jones
(6,011 posts)Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Grokenstein
(5,707 posts)so he wants an excuse to use lethal force indiscriminately the instant the noise reaches a certain decibel level. If you think some of the cops have been out of control in response to protests so far, Donny Littlehands is of the opinion that they were way too restrained.
Because he IS a fascist.
And the GOP is now a terrorist organization.
sandensea
(21,526 posts)It's also what the neo-nazis have been asking of him, and naturally they got it.
Edwcraig
(287 posts)as their fascist armed and threatening party members protest sound public health policies and fascist leaning police perform ethnic cleansing. God help us.
Mopar151
(9,965 posts)American Nazi Terrorist Insurance Fraud Agressors! The original "Anti-Facist" Skinheads were "villans" - To the Hammerskins, and any other violent, facist, racist, defective humans.
My Dad was an "ANTIFA" OG - Wounded in combat in the Vosges Mountains of France, 100th division, 3rd Army!
To misquote John Lennon "Anti-Facist is something to be!"
cayugafalls
(5,629 posts)EarthFirst
(2,877 posts)What a buffoon.
reACTIONary
(5,749 posts)I'm sure its already been mentioned up thread many times, but I couldn't help myself.
riversedge
(69,713 posts)aggiesal
(8,864 posts)What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
mahatmakanejeeves
(56,886 posts)Complete bullshit. Coming straight from the White House:
Link to tweet
This guy with the 88 on his shirt must not have gotten the memo.
Link to tweet
TygrBright
(20,733 posts)roamer65
(36,739 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,063 posts)They_Live
(3,222 posts)of the SPACE FORCE (TM)!!1
roamer65
(36,739 posts)Devil Child
(2,728 posts)LudwigPastorius
(8,943 posts)Nevilledog
(50,660 posts)They are definitive in their statements that someone, other than the protesters, are responsible for the violence and destruction. The background of those videoed and/or arrested will prove them to be attached to the Right wing, not the Left.