New Trump public land rules will let Alaska hunters kill bear cubs in dens

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Guardian

The ‘amazingly cruel’ move by the National Park Service reverses Obama-era regulations which also affect wolves and coyotes

Emily Holden in Washington
Thu 28 May 2020 06.30 EDT

The Trump administration is finalizing rules that will allow hunters in Alaska’s national preserves to shoot bears and wolves, and their cubs and pups, while they are in their dens.

The National Park Service is reversing regulations written by the Barack Obama administration, which banned some of the much-criticized practices for hunting the predators, including luring bears with food like doughnuts.

Jesse Prentice-Dunn, policy director for the Center for Western Priorities, called the rule change “amazingly cruel” and said it was “just the latest in a string of efforts to reduce protections for America’s wildlife at the behest of oil companies and trophy hunters”.

The park service’s deputy director, David Vela, said the change would “more closely align hunting and trapping regulations with those established by the state of Alaska”.

The regulation is expected to be formally published this week. Alaska laws would still apply. The state generally prohibits killing bear cubs, but it allows some exceptions in Alaska’s interior region.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/may/28/alaska-bears-wolves-trump-rules-hunters

[Bernardo de La Paz]

1. Anyone needing to kill a bear cub in its den is a very sick person. . . . nt

[lagomorph777]

25. For example, Donald Turd Jr.

He must be cleaning his shotgun right now.

[Botany]

2. 100% gas lighting .... Boy will this piss off the liberal tree huggers

I smell Stephen Miller all over this diversion by Trump.

[Mike 03]

5. This is how I interpret these laws too.

It's to break our spirits, pure and simple.

My god how much damage will these evil people do?

[Hotler]

9. This Nazi rat fucker is behind a lot of the shit the orange one does.

He's probably put the bug in the orange one's ear to have the CNN news crew rousted.

[Vinca]

3. The Trump Doctrine is "kill everything."

[3Hotdogs]

4. Publicize the shit out of this.

It will generate more negative reaction against Trump and most of the other shit he has pulled or is pulling.

Cubs are cute. Everyone identifies with cubs.

[keithbvadu2]

6. The mighty hunter.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211970385

Poachers Slaughter Hibernating Bear And Her Cubs In Horrifying Video

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This American Trophy Hunter Shot a Sleeping Lion

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211972016

[Drahthaardogs]

7. Native Alaskans do this with bear cubs

It is conical a traditional delicacy

[Coventina]

10. Never heard this before, do you have a link? I'd like to read up on it. n/t

[Drahthaardogs]

14. No link, just an Athabaskan neighbor

He did it every winter

Actually here

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/feb/03/activists-debate-native-hibernating-bear-hunting/%3Famp-content%3Damp

[Coventina]

18. Well, I would say this: As long as they are living a totally traditional lifestyle, with no Western

components, then OK.

If they are driving up to the dens in SUVs, then getting out ATVs, snow mobiles, etc. and shooting with guns, then I call bullshit.

Not all "traditional" practices are acceptable behavior.

[Drahthaardogs]

19. You ever seen them whale hunt?

Lol. It’s not what you think, but whatever. It is part of their culture, there are plenty of bears, and if they eat it - why do I care?

We eat lamb, veal, and roasting chicken - all young animals. Steers and heifers too.

If you eat meat, something has to die. I’m not really into this fair chase nonsense. I am all about eating what you kill

[Coventina]

20. I'm a vegetarian, FWIW. "Part of their culture" is not an acceptable excuse for cruelty.

FGM is "culture".

Should Scandinavian countries be allowed to rape and pillage during non-growing seasons because it's "part of their traditional culture"?

If they are eating Big Macs at their local McDonald's then, no, it's not "part of their culture."

It's just an excuse for cruelty.

[Drahthaardogs]

21. You just equated shooting a sleeping bear to raping a woman

This is why people mock vegetarians

[Coventina]

22. No, I was saying cruelty is not OK, no matter the victim, or the "excuse" given for it. n/t

[Bayard]

12. I'd like to see that too

[Bengus81]

8. I don't get it?? Oh wait...regulation written by the Obama Administration. That clears that up

[IcyPeas]

23. exactly, trump must sit in his office with a list

and he is one by one undoing everything and anything with Obama's name on it.

just for spite

[dhill926]

11. support the right to arm bears....

[Bayard]

13. I really, truly, hate this man

Killing off people, wildlife, the environment, rule of law. America. I really cannot understand such sociopathic motives, even if Putin is pulling the strings.

I'm rooting for the bears to maul them.

[olddad65]

15. How sporting.

[BusyBeingBest]

16. Sick fucks.

[turbinetree]

17. "David Vela""more closely align hunting and trapping regulations with those established by the state

[TheFourthMind]

24. This is why I rejoice with every headline noting a hunter mauled to death.

Or shot to death by anti-poachers.

[Dial H For Hero]

26. Do you feel that way about all hunters?

[TheFourthMind]

28. You suggesting I shouldn't? n/t

[Dial H For Hero]

29. Just seeking clarificatiion. I presume you feel the same, then, about these hunters:

?435

[TheFourthMind]

30. Which one of these individuals has been mauled to death while hunting or poaching? n/t

[Dial H For Hero]

31. You said you had these feelings about all hunters. These men are hunters.

[TheFourthMind]

32. No, you need to believe that's what I said in order to make your point. Which you failed to do

because your reacting to words and presumptions that came from you, not me. So again, which one of the people you posted has been mauled or killed for poaching or hunting? Which has killed a wolf or bear and risked being mauled or killed? Are you suggesting one can be mauled by a duck? Or killed by anti-poachers for killing one?

[Kaleva]

33. You ought to edit then your original post to show you support ethical hunters

That your main issue is with hunters who use unethical means, violate the law or are trophy hunters.

[LanternWaste]

36. Rejection of A does not imply rejection of B

That's just some basic language comprehension and logic. Seems little more than bias on your part to seek an allowance neither offered not implied.

[Kaleva]

37. His later comments seem to suggest he supports ethical hunters like Pres. Carter.

[Dial H For Hero]

34. When I asked if you felt this way about *all* hunters, you asked if I was suggesting you shouldn't.

Quite obviously, none of the individuals I posted have been mauled or killed by animals. Again, to clarify: Do you only find joy in reports of the violent deaths of those who hunt wolves & bears (or are killed by anti-poachers), or do you also derive pleasure from accounts of duck and deer hunters dying in the field (as does occasionally happen)?

[Kaleva]

27. "the Tanana Chiefs Conference,...supports the rollbacks."

"Victor Joseph, chair of the Tanana Chiefs Conference, said the group representing 42 tribes in the Interior supports the rollback. The 2015 rule was implemented without “adequate tribal consultation," he said in a statement sent by the park service.

“The previous limitations enacted in 2015 threatened our way of life and our centuries-long sustainable management practices," he said in the statement."

https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020/05/21/trump-administration-moves-to-ease-rules-for-hunting-bears-and-wolves-on-federal-lands-in-alaska/

[LanternWaste]

35. Another reason I have difficulty allowing respect to anyone who kills for entertainment.