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Fri May 22, 2020, 10:33 PM

Trump demands States open church as essential services

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Source: Bloomberg

President Donald Trump demanded on Friday that states allow houses of worship to reopen from stay-at-home restrictions imposed to combat the coronavirus outbreak, yet his authority to override governors’ orders is restrained by constitutional limits.

“The governors need to do the right thing and allow these very important essential places of faith to open right now,” Trump said Friday in a statement to reporters at the White House. “For this weekend.”


“If they don’t do it I will override the governors,” he added.



Read more: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-22/trump-orders-churches-re-opened-and-says-he-ll-override-states



Governors should tell him to fuck off.

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Reply Trump demands States open church as essential services (Original post)
MySideOfTown May 22 OP
Peace06 May 22 #1
Newest Reality May 22 #2
47of74 May 22 #5
jberryhill May 22 #8
TomCADem May 22 #3
IronLionZion May 22 #4
Stuart G May 22 #6
Joe Nation May 22 #7
SergeStorms May 23 #9
Lock him up. May 23 #11
ananda May 23 #10
LudwigPastorius May 23 #12
JudyM May 23 #13
MySideOfTown May 23 #14

Response to MySideOfTown (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:45 PM

1. Churches

Isn't the true purpose of going to church to worship God? And isn't God everywhere?

So what is the hulabaloo really all about? Could it possibly be money?

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Response to Peace06 (Reply #1)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:51 PM

2. Jesus...

Jesus actually said it was nonessential, so the argument is not really valid.

Matthew 6:5
And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their full reward.

Matthew 6:6

But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

It couldn't be clearer, but oh, it was just something ol' Jesus said, so maybe it doesn't count anymore.

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Response to Newest Reality (Reply #2)

Fri May 22, 2020, 11:04 PM

5. Fuck Face and his followers DO NOT follow Jesus

They instead follow Jeeeeeezus, who is lilly white and hates all the same people they do.

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Response to Peace06 (Reply #1)

Fri May 22, 2020, 11:41 PM

8. I've never heard of a god that didn't want money

 


That goes for Jehovah, Krishna (and all his woodland friends) and Buddha too.

My second favorite Buddha so far was the Big Buddha in Phuket. They built this Big Buddha up on a hill that you could see from some of the beaches, way up on the top of the highest hill you can see:



Well, I was out swimming and looking up and I didn’t even know they had a Big Buddha. He was just looking out to sea like that, and I thought we just had to go see what things looked like from where he was.

So we drove up there along a windy hillside road - you just follow the signs from anywhere that say “Big Buddha” and have an arrow - and this was a little while before he was completely finished. So they also had a big reclining Buddha in a tent and there were something like 20 collection plates around him, and it was apparently really good luck and many blessings if you put a coin in each one. And they had monks that would give you a bag of 5 baht coins for a 100 baht note - although they had higher denominations which I gathered would get you even more luck. But, I figured that I’d try the entry level, and if I ended up getting lucky, I’d cut him in on a share of the proceeds. Sort of a win-win, Karma-wise.

I guess the luck has been okay so far. I’d give it another go. Especially now they he’s done...




But, anyways, like all gods, he likes money too.

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Response to MySideOfTown (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:55 PM

3. BBC - The preachers getting rich from poor Americans

It is all about the money. Our church, which has a large population of elderly, has made the decision not to open for safety reasons even though it is causing a hit to donations. However, there are a lot of "churches" that are all about living large and getting people to donate and "plant seeds" even when they are poor.



https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-47675301

Televangelist Todd Coontz has a well-worn routine: he dresses in a suit, pulls out a Bible and urges viewers to pledge a very specific amount of money. "Don't delay, don't delay," he urges, calmly but emphatically.

It sounds simple, absurdly so, but Coontz knows his audience extremely well. He broadcasts on Christian cable channels, often late into the night, drawing in viewers who lack financial literacy and are desperate for change.

"I understand the laws that govern insurance, stocks and bonds and all that is involved with Wall Street," he once said, looking directly into the camera. "God has called me… as a financial deliverer."

Crucially, he always refers to the money as a "seed" - a $273 seed, a $333 seed, a "turnaround" seed, depending on the broadcast. If viewers "plant" one, the amount will come back to them, multiplied, he says. It is an investment in their faith and their future.

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Response to MySideOfTown (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 10:57 PM

4. Dude will hold big rallies again

and then open up nursing homes to visitors again because those Godless liberals don't want you to visit Grandma.

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Response to MySideOfTown (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 11:09 PM

6. I don't think he has the "Constitutional Authority" After it ends up in court, I think he will lose

But the lawyers will know................................

But it is not about the Constitution. Trump likes to do battle with the governors. That battle Trump thinks will make him look like a ..........."HERO"................but it wont...

A battle with like that makes him look ...FOREVER STUPID.. HERE IS WHY...

That is the state"s power not the federal government. Rules about closing churches and factories, are in the governors hands....especially for .."PUBLIC SAFETY''

Trump wants a battle because he needs one to distract from his previous stupidity and incompetence with the virus that has killed 90,000 people...That distraction for his base...will not work...But he thinks it will..He wants to fight the Constitution...He has already lost that one.

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Response to MySideOfTown (Original post)

Fri May 22, 2020, 11:29 PM

7. I believe Trump is pandering to Evangelicals here

I know, Trump should should take it to the next level and make an appearance at a Mega-Church.

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Response to MySideOfTown (Original post)

Sat May 23, 2020, 12:13 AM

9. Like Trump gives a shit about the churchies.

All he wants is their votes. Trump doesn't believe in any religion, he's rich, and when you're rich money is your god. Pandering asshole.

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Response to SergeStorms (Reply #9)

Sat May 23, 2020, 12:35 AM

11. Owing a trillion to China & Russia isn't "rich" by any standard.

Moreso when all room reservations are at a all-times bottom.

But maybe raiding the U.S. Treasory for life is his stay-outta-jail card now.

Vote BLUE. Let's make it happen.

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Response to MySideOfTown (Original post)

Sat May 23, 2020, 12:18 AM

10. Sigh

OK, if religious maniacs are willing for theIr false god to lead them to slaughter, I guess nobody can stop them. But it’s too bad that this death cult will also drag others over the Covid cliff with them. It’s as though they‘re living and breathing a murder-suicide pact with the golden calf they worship.

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Response to MySideOfTown (Original post)

Sat May 23, 2020, 12:38 AM

12. Stop me if you've heard this one.

Two Corinthians walk into a bar...errr..church...

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Response to MySideOfTown (Original post)

Sat May 23, 2020, 12:59 AM

13. Locking, dupe.

Please continue discussion in this earlier thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142499054

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Response to MySideOfTown (Original post)

Sat May 23, 2020, 01:00 AM

14. Another day another stunt.

President pulls another stunt, since it's Friday. There is nothing in the constitution that gives him authority to favor religions over the law, which precludes the government from doing that.

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