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appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:00 PM May 2020

Michigan: Right Wing Militia Groups To Protest Stay-At-Home Orders

Source: The Guardian

Rightwing militia groups in Michigan plan to rally at the state capitol building on Thursday to protest Democratic governor Gretchen Whitmer's stay-at-home orders that she put in place to slow the deadly spread of the coronavirus pandemic.

Thursday's demonstration will be the latest in a series of protests that started as a demonstration against the lockdown policy but are now generating fears of an eruption of political violence. The state is currently investigating what the Michigan attorney general, Dana Nessel, characterized on Monday as "credible threats" against state Democratic politicians. Her comments followed a report of threats of violence on rightwing social media pages.

Residents posting in the Michiganders Against Excessive Quarantine Facebook page called for Whitmer's assassination. "Wonder how long till she's hit with a shotgun blast," one wrote. Another said they hope Thursday's protesters are "armed to the teeth" because "voting is too late".

Dramatic images from a 30 April protest showed militia members carrying assault rifles while glaring and shouting from the galleries of the state legislature as an emotional debate over extending a stay-at-home order took place. In response, a black lawmaker last week came to Michigan's capitol with an escort of armed black citizens.


Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/13/michigan-rightwing-militia-groups-stay-at-home-protest





Armed Patriot Rally at the state capitol in Lansing, Michigan on April 30, 2020.


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Michigan: Right Wing Militia Groups To Protest Stay-At-Home Orders (Original Post) appalachiablue May 2020 OP
They're not protestors sakabatou May 2020 #1
This is what I see Major Nikon May 2020 #4
I feel so sad for the children and parents of these idiots. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2020 #67
Where are the cops that are sworn to protect the innocent. Are there any left? Sorry, I 42bambi May 2020 #2
We wink at this at our collective peril bucolic_frolic May 2020 #3
While it's nice to catch up on what the bottom 1/3 of the class is doing now... mpcamb May 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author dware May 2020 #41
Start chasing them, they won't get far before they are wheezing. redstatebluegirl May 2020 #5
What's wrong with Michigan? paleotn May 2020 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author dware May 2020 #43
Can't help but think that they're triggered by the state's recent all-female Dem leadership sweep. JudyM May 2020 #58
Probably. Scared lil fellers clutching their steel manhood. paleotn May 2020 #65
Posts like this worry me ripcord May 2020 #59
I hear ya, dware May 2020 #62
So walking around with pop guns, meant soley to intimidate law abiding Michiganders... paleotn May 2020 #64
We keep coming back to the fact that they didn't break any laws ripcord May 2020 #68
I'm talking about a couple of posters here that advocate dware May 2020 #72
They don't worry me in the least.... paleotn May 2020 #63
Since you are so sure I'mn sure you can cite the ordinances they broke. ripcord May 2020 #69
Knucklehead Knazis. Voltaire2 May 2020 #7
Unacceptable. MI needs some new laws. Not OK to threaten public officials (or anyone). Evolve Dammit May 2020 #8
We'll never get them with the republican-controlled legislature. Hell, the Capitol Commission catbyte May 2020 #17
I am so sorry. They need a Come to Jesus moment, and to get out of the NRA's pocket Evolve Dammit May 2020 #21
Does Governor Whitmer have the authority to call in the Michigan National Guard? abqtommy May 2020 #9
Yes, she does. roamer65 May 2020 #23
Thanks, that's good to know... abqtommy May 2020 #24
Here is her chance to set an example for other Democratic leaders to stop playing nice. nt Hotler May 2020 #60
Bingo. paleotn May 2020 #66
These fools just love having the excuse to dress up in their finest camo, Marie Marie May 2020 #10
its up to MSM to quit giving these idiots any recognition. Now that they got noticed they will yaesu May 2020 #12
if the idiots want to play soldier why don't they join the military, oh wait, the military doesn't yaesu May 2020 #11
People should dress up as them and get giant dildos made to carry around like guns chowder66 May 2020 #13
Shoot 'em Botany May 2020 #14
I can't believe I'm reading this shit on DU. dware May 2020 #45
Funny, I have the same opinion carlvsam May 2020 #51
So you would shoot them? dware May 2020 #52
Who were you then? Looks like you joined in 2019 to me. ret5hd May 2020 #56
I initially joined up in 2001, dware May 2020 #61
Internet tough guy and violent fantasies conveniently wrapped into one post Devil Child May 2020 #55
Walking around with automatic weapons in order to threaten the legal government because their ... Botany May 2020 #57
O! such bad asses! Cryptoad May 2020 #15
I've had it. Those goddamned terrorists have already infected parts of Michigan that catbyte May 2020 #16
MI militias are in the FBI's database, first provided by SPLC. Gov needs to call their field office ancianita May 2020 #18
I invite them to come protest in the Ann Arbor area. roamer65 May 2020 #25
You seem to imply that Ann Arbor would defend against them. Any guns anywhere is a bad idea. ancianita May 2020 #29
I said nothing about guns. roamer65 May 2020 #32
True, I noted that. But what if they came with guns? How would Ann Arbor deal with them? ancianita May 2020 #33
Arrest them. roamer65 May 2020 #37
Could they handle the numbers that will show up at the capital? Should the governor ancianita May 2020 #40
I'm sure they would handle it. roamer65 May 2020 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author dware May 2020 #46
The governor's EO on staying at home. roamer65 May 2020 #49
Ok, thanks for that info. nt. dware May 2020 #50
These people are domestic terrorists and should be going forward referred to as terrorists not kimbutgar May 2020 #20
Spot on. They are domestic terrorists. Evolve Dammit May 2020 #22
100% agreed. They are not protesters relayerbob May 2020 #38
We protestors bring signs, terrorists bring assault weapons. kimbutgar May 2020 #44
Yep. Really easy to tell the difference relayerbob May 2020 #48
trump white supremacy rallies, not protestors - more BS from fake news lol nt msongs May 2020 #26
I think its telling that so many wear masks while demonstrating yet the want us not to. Ford_Prefect May 2020 #27
Cowards, ashamed to show their faces relayerbob May 2020 #36
Because they are afraid of fame. roamer65 May 2020 #39
This used to bother me. Now I am fine with this. Let them be infected. Let them die. Gore1FL May 2020 #28
Were it only that simple. What bothers me: it's like the virus, infecting other states' militias. ancianita May 2020 #30
Lock 'em up. Dyedinthewoolliberal May 2020 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author dware May 2020 #47
No more half measures. No more hand wringing maxrandb May 2020 #34
Fucking terrorists relayerbob May 2020 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author roamer65 May 2020 #53
Legal guidance on violating Gov Whitmer's EO to stay at home. roamer65 May 2020 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar May 2020 #70
A much slower event compared to the earlier one, which appalachiablue May 2020 #71
67. I feel so sad for the children and parents of these idiots.
Thu May 14, 2020, 05:05 PM
May 2020

I also feel for the medical workers who will risk their own lives when these yahoos end up in their ICSs.

42bambi

(1,753 posts)
2. Where are the cops that are sworn to protect the innocent. Are there any left? Sorry, I
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:14 PM
May 2020

am still horrified by the latest killings by cops. Think Breonna. May she forever dance on the wings of an Angel.

mpcamb

(2,870 posts)
19. While it's nice to catch up on what the bottom 1/3 of the class is doing now...
Wed May 13, 2020, 07:10 PM
May 2020

com'on, at least disarm them!

Response to mpcamb (Reply #19)

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
5. Start chasing them, they won't get far before they are wheezing.
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:20 PM
May 2020

I really don't think they have the guts to really shoot someone. I might be wrong, they live in their mom's basement so they need the guns to feel like a man.

Response to paleotn (Reply #6)

JudyM

(29,225 posts)
58. Can't help but think that they're triggered by the state's recent all-female Dem leadership sweep.
Thu May 14, 2020, 10:05 AM
May 2020

paleotn

(17,901 posts)
65. Probably. Scared lil fellers clutching their steel manhood.
Thu May 14, 2020, 03:22 PM
May 2020

Poor things. Bless their sweet little hearts.

ripcord

(5,311 posts)
59. Posts like this worry me
Thu May 14, 2020, 10:36 AM
May 2020

"It isn't illegal but I won't like it so they should be arrested" is a frightening attitude.

paleotn

(17,901 posts)
64. So walking around with pop guns, meant soley to intimidate law abiding Michiganders...
Thu May 14, 2020, 03:20 PM
May 2020

is perfectly alright? You have a right to protest. You have zero right to intimidate others or to threaten the governor's life. Throw their fucking asses in jail.

ripcord

(5,311 posts)
68. We keep coming back to the fact that they didn't break any laws
Thu May 14, 2020, 07:36 PM
May 2020

Open carry is legal in Michigan, there is no law barring people from taking firearms into the state capitol and finally the state police took their temperatures and let them in. The laws in Michigan need to be changed but your personal outrage doesn't make their actions illegal.

dware

(12,327 posts)
72. I'm talking about a couple of posters here that advocate
Thu May 14, 2020, 10:48 PM
May 2020

shooting them first in the legs and then if they don't put down their weapons, then shoot them in the head, that's not only repugnant, but also illegal and massive lawsuits would follow.

I find it rather odd that most here oppose the DP, including me, but some would have not problem with the police shooting people with firearms that haven't committed any physical violence.

paleotn

(17,901 posts)
63. They don't worry me in the least....
Thu May 14, 2020, 03:16 PM
May 2020
This is not a peaceful protest. This is a case of armed intimidation. No different in my mind to Kluckers walking around in robes, carrying weapons and threatening to attack black folks. This shit needs to stop. Sorry, but your rights have limits. They end precisely where other peoples rights begin.

Evolve Dammit

(16,719 posts)
8. Unacceptable. MI needs some new laws. Not OK to threaten public officials (or anyone).
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:27 PM
May 2020

They are trying to intimidate and it needs to stop. Don't really care what it takes, as long as it is rational.

catbyte

(34,359 posts)
17. We'll never get them with the republican-controlled legislature. Hell, the Capitol Commission
Wed May 13, 2020, 06:53 PM
May 2020

was too chicken shit to ban guns in the Capitol, instead wussing out and forming "a committee" to "study" it. Goddamned worthless pieces of shit.

paleotn

(17,901 posts)
66. Bingo.
Thu May 14, 2020, 03:24 PM
May 2020

You start intimidating civil servants doing their jobs, you get your fucking ass tossed in jail. And you lose your right to posses your little pop guns. Sorry, but they've proved themselves unable to handle the responsibility of gun ownership.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
10. These fools just love having the excuse to dress up in their finest camo,
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:42 PM
May 2020

accessorized by the largest gun in their arsenal and play tough guys. No, I do not underestimate their propensity for violence, some of these guys are crazy but I think they love putting on this little show of force. Look at meeeee, I'm a badass for Feedom.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
12. its up to MSM to quit giving these idiots any recognition. Now that they got noticed they will
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:47 PM
May 2020

just keep making fools out of the law and enforcement.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
11. if the idiots want to play soldier why don't they join the military, oh wait, the military doesn't
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:45 PM
May 2020

want idiots either.

chowder66

(9,065 posts)
13. People should dress up as them and get giant dildos made to carry around like guns
Wed May 13, 2020, 05:53 PM
May 2020

like that meme that went around.

Botany

(70,480 posts)
14. Shoot 'em
Wed May 13, 2020, 06:07 PM
May 2020

We are in a war already with between 1,500 and 3,000 people a day dying and these
ignorant fuck heads who are doing Putin's bidding want more people to get sick and or
die by not listening to the Drs. & scientists and opening things back up? Go ahead and
shoot 'em. 1st rounds through their legs and if they don't drop their weapons the next
rounds through their heads or chests.

dware

(12,327 posts)
45. I can't believe I'm reading this shit on DU.
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:08 PM
May 2020

Shoot them? For what?
What law are they breaking?

carlvsam

(21 posts)
51. Funny, I have the same opinion
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:45 PM
May 2020

about those who seem to have no problem with the threats of violence and political assassination these degenerate filth are making.

They decided to cross the line when those threats were made, so I have no problem stating that a show of force by the state's National Guard is what is needed now - anything else would be nothing but this:

dware

(12,327 posts)
52. So you would shoot them?
Wed May 13, 2020, 10:49 PM
May 2020

Even if they haven't physically attacked anyone?

That's what the poster I was replying to seems to want.

This sure ain't the DU I remember when I first joined in 2001.

dware

(12,327 posts)
61. I initially joined up in 2001,
Thu May 14, 2020, 12:07 PM
May 2020

but, as I've explained many times here, in 2004, I had to take a hiatus because life interfered, as to what my screen name was back then, I prefer not to divulge that.

Botany

(70,480 posts)
57. Walking around with automatic weapons in order to threaten the legal government because their ...
Thu May 14, 2020, 09:39 AM
May 2020

... heads have been filled with hateful crap and all the time spreading this deadly disease to
more and more people. We have no treatment or vaccine for C-19 and the only ways we have
to fight it is shut downs, social isolation, along with testing and tracing and these ass clowns
who are doing Putin's bidding by stirring up social unrest are now trying to stop those proven
methods through intimidation with guns. Give 'em a chance to put their guns down and walk
away if not arrest them and if they threaten any of the law enforcement or legal elected govern-
meant officials then the use of force is not out the question. They are not "freedom fighter patriots"
but domestic terrorists some of whom blocked medical workers from getting into a local hospital
to treat people with C-19.



catbyte

(34,359 posts)
16. I've had it. Those goddamned terrorists have already infected parts of Michigan that
Wed May 13, 2020, 06:51 PM
May 2020

were virus-free before their first armed dick-waving, bringing it home with them. I hope all of them get sick and die. I can't believe I'm actually saying that much less feeling it. They're killers, though, just like their Dear Leader.

I'm so embarrassed that they're Michiganders.

ancianita

(36,009 posts)
18. MI militias are in the FBI's database, first provided by SPLC. Gov needs to call their field office
Wed May 13, 2020, 07:06 PM
May 2020

to get some advice, help and names.

Calling in the National Guard might provoke them, but they'd still be outnumbered, outgunned. At least locally.

This is the Big Dogwhistle to similar groups across the country.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
25. I invite them to come protest in the Ann Arbor area.
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:01 PM
May 2020

We will show them a welcome they will never forget.



But they won’t do it. They know Ann Arbor would be like protesting in Berkeley, CA.

ancianita

(36,009 posts)
29. You seem to imply that Ann Arbor would defend against them. Any guns anywhere is a bad idea.
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:29 PM
May 2020

Not just where people can easily be terrorized. But because any outbreak of a gun fight could spark similar moves by other state militias, and could quickly result in the public witnessing battle skirmishes similar to those preceding the Civil War. The current COVID suffering and death would be sidelined when it should be front and center in governors' work and media attention. Trump would be counting on 'violence as entertainment' to distract from the nation's economic depression and his deadly failure.

This kind of civilian conflict-driven thinking only promotes mob violence that reinforces the already passive genocide conducted by this administration's chaotic leadership toward humans in nursing homes, prisons and meat plants.

Guns guarding tattoo parlors proves the militias' wanting to confound the populace about their wants rather than their needs. It's pure power politics.

It's what gives the perfect excuse to this dicktater to shut down the November vote, where guns could easily show up at polling stations, too. He'd love that, but would 'play the high road' and shut it all down.

This is the potential mob stuff that dictators love to manipulate toward permanent rule.

We don't want to go there. This governor needs to nip this in the bud on Thursday.

ancianita

(36,009 posts)
40. Could they handle the numbers that will show up at the capital? Should the governor
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:42 PM
May 2020

handle them that way?

Response to roamer65 (Reply #37)

kimbutgar

(21,103 posts)
20. These people are domestic terrorists and should be going forward referred to as terrorists not
Wed May 13, 2020, 07:17 PM
May 2020

Protesters. Carrying weapons of war to the Capitol building, threatening to kill the governor and trying to overthrown a duly elected official are Acts of terror.

We need to reframe it every time they say protestors no they are terrorists.

Gore1FL

(21,117 posts)
28. This used to bother me. Now I am fine with this. Let them be infected. Let them die.
Wed May 13, 2020, 08:21 PM
May 2020

It will aid the human race genetically. It will aid this country to be rid of them. If they want to kill themselves and their friends and their families so damned bad, let them.

Response to Dyedinthewoolliberal (Reply #31)

maxrandb

(15,311 posts)
34. No more half measures. No more hand wringing
Wed May 13, 2020, 09:16 PM
May 2020

Call out the National Guard and if these pricks try to intimidate folks, or get belligerent...arrest them. If they resist arrest, do whatever is necessary to keep the peace.

These cowards do this because they know that they can show up, intimidate and harass people, break the law, and the only thing they have to worry about is if the Pizza Rolls in mom's basement will be pepperoni or sausage.

80% of Americans will fucking scream for joy to see these fucksticks arrested.

Response to relayerbob (Reply #35)

Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
71. A much slower event compared to the earlier one, which
Thu May 14, 2020, 10:37 PM
May 2020

is good. Due to rain, no legislators for drama as you noted; a brief scuffle over a noosed doll. I hope these rallies wane and disappear soon. Thanks for posting the report.

That's a wild, (and sad) critter with the gun.

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