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riversedge

(69,727 posts)
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:13 PM May 2020

Trump Livid After California Allows Statewide Mail-In Voting: 'These Votes Must Not Count'

Source: TPM




May 9, 2020 1:57 p.m.


California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) issued an executive order on Friday allowing all voters in the state to vote by mail in the upcoming November elections to protect them from exposure to COVID-19 at polling sites.

Now a furious President Donald Trump is demanding that the votes be thrown out.


“So in California, the Democrats, who fought like crazy to get all mail in only ballots, and succeeded, have just opened a voting booth in the most Democrat area in the State,” he tweeted on Saturday. “They are trying to steal another election.”

“It’s all rigged out there,” Trump also wrote. “These votes must not count. SCAM!”

On the previous day, Newsom ordered all California county elections officials to send registered voters mail-in ballots for the elections on November 3 amid the COVID-19 pandemic. The Golden State is the first in the country to do so.

“Elections and the right to vote are foundational to our democracy,” the governor stated in a press release. “No Californian should be forced to risk their health in order to exercise their right to vote.”...................

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-livid-after-california-allows-statewide-mail-in-voting-these-votes-must-not-count



some day trumpy is going to blow a gasket in his swamp head. do I care????





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Trump Livid After California Allows Statewide Mail-In Voting: 'These Votes Must Not Count' (Original Post) riversedge May 2020 OP
Too bad, asshole. The Constitution gives the states power The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #1
I agree. n/t EndlessWire May 2020 #40
Look what Oklahoma is doing with that "States" power......... Bengus81 May 2020 #64
That is just flat fucking stupid Cosmocat May 2020 #66
The Fuhrer has spoken.....NO MAIL IN BALLOTS!! Bengus81 May 2020 #2
Watch Trump soon claim that China is working with Biden to defeat him in the upcoming election Zorro May 2020 #6
The ads on TV already basically state that. rmm311 May 2020 #37
Here's a news flash you incompetent fuck - Haggis for Breakfast May 2020 #78
Notice how many Republicans are scared of people being able to vote? cstanleytech May 2020 #3
Somehow, that's not a dead giveaway to grassroots Republicans Warpy May 2020 #19
it's their worst nightmare, voting and no lines, no suppression. So register people and GOTV TeamPooka May 2020 #22
So what's going on in DC Courts with Flynn? bucolic_frolic May 2020 #4
Yepper spot on.................... turbinetree May 2020 #5
That's what I thought I was afraid of bucolic_frolic May 2020 #7
we have a ballot board to review the mailed in votes yellowdogintexas May 2020 #79
Congress counts the electoral votes, not some stooge from Barr's DoJ. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2020 #11
Right. bucolic_frolic May 2020 #13
My first thought on reading his tweet was that KPN May 2020 #60
And what exactly is Trump Whining about in California? bucolic_frolic May 2020 #8
THAT'S NOT IT AT ALL........ DENVERPOPS May 2020 #47
THIS. We are being played already. Machiavelli KPN May 2020 #61
That's really stupid to pick a fight with a state he had no chance of winning anyway. So now that brewens May 2020 #9
Every REGISTERED voter can vote by mail as it is. Newsom is just making it safe by mailing chowder66 May 2020 #10
correct. AllaN01Bear May 2020 #23
: ) chowder66 May 2020 #31
That was a Freudian slip there. docgee May 2020 #12
Well there was that time in 1874....... whistler162 May 2020 #67
In fact, a Republican has never won the popular vote but lost the EC. NYC Liberal May 2020 #81
California already allowed anyone to request a mail-in vote, this just makes it more convenient n/t AntiFascist May 2020 #14
Is tRump throwing out the entire constitution, or just the 10th Amendment? flibbitygiblets May 2020 #15
"After voting by mail, Trump denounces voting by mail" left-of-center2012 May 2020 #16
only he can vote by mail, not the rest of us. AllaN01Bear May 2020 #21
+1 dalton99a May 2020 #34
We do it in Washington and our votes count. iemitsu May 2020 #17
Oregon too. n/t progree May 2020 #24
In the ten years I've lived in Oregon MurrayDelph May 2020 #52
Virginia as well. Anyone can request a mail-in ballot due to COVID. nt Nay May 2020 #46
In TX any one 65 or older, or disabled or other wise unable to physically vote yellowdogintexas May 2020 #77
ppl can still vote at a local polling place...mail in not required nt msongs May 2020 #18
you republicans put in vote by mail in california to get around democrats whilst they were in power. AllaN01Bear May 2020 #20
Methinks he doth protest too much. CA; One state they can't steal. Other states? Evolve Dammit May 2020 #25
OKAY ... ok .. cool out ... California, don't count the votes for fatnixon.. sheesh dweller May 2020 #26
States control who votes and how..Vote by mail increases voting. see POST # 1 Stuart G May 2020 #27
It must be working against the GOP plans to steal votes at the booths. C Moon May 2020 #28
no it is working against their plan to reduce the number of non MAGATS who vote yellowdogintexas May 2020 #73
Tough, orange boy. paleotn May 2020 #29
Are any state or federal laws being broken by this action? hadEnuf May 2020 #30
I imagine he had good lawyers looke at this before he posted. But knowing trump and Barr, I riversedge May 2020 #32
Any kind of a verifiable voting system with a paper trail is a threat to Trump and the GOP. hadEnuf May 2020 #35
Oh please Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2020 #33
I can't figure this out. Grokenstein May 2020 #36
What the fuck is your beef, Shitbag? Aviation Pro May 2020 #38
when is he NOT livid - pls media, stop reporting on this bs as if it was news. Just tell us when he Kashkakat v.2.0 May 2020 #39
Another thing you can do in California EndlessWire May 2020 #41
we have lots of ballot boxes in nearly every neighborhood AlexSFCA May 2020 #42
we can do that here in Texas. yellowdogintexas May 2020 #75
Question. Here in TX we can either mail them or drop them at the Elections Office. yellowdogintexas May 2020 #76
Jeebus, Trumpy gets worse by the second. spiderpig May 2020 #43
So? Don't count ALL military main-in votes either?? Ferrets are Cool May 2020 #44
He couldn't win CA in any fair election. He got trampled last time. olddad65 May 2020 #53
what about red states that do all mail in ballots Hamlette May 2020 #45
he sees them losing more congressional seats cause of this jorgevlorgan May 2020 #48
Go fuck yourself, Fat Boy. LudwigPastorius May 2020 #49
If this pissed him off so bad kacekwl May 2020 #50
this is diversionary bluster not_the_one May 2020 #51
Scary, isn't it? spiderpig May 2020 #54
I'm so goddamned sick and TIRED of his childish tantrums. Aristus May 2020 #55
If he were your neighbor wouldn't you request a restraining order? spiderpig May 2020 #56
Hell no. I'd probably go over in the middle of the night and burn his house down. Aristus May 2020 #57
I totally agree spiderpig May 2020 #69
I doubt he's livid at all duforsure May 2020 #58
so trump admits he has voted fraudently by mail?? As he claims eveyone else would? beachbumbob May 2020 #59
Pssst - Don, you moron - YOU voted by mail. Vinca May 2020 #62
Yep, in a Florida election. As usual with Republicans 100% hypocrisy........ Bengus81 May 2020 #63
your vote counted when you voted by mail! MissMillie May 2020 #65
Just go ahead and have the Supreme Court rule (it will be 5 to 4 on party lines) that not_the_one May 2020 #68
He's messaging to the racists and "true believers" haele May 2020 #70
I think this is really it. Sewing chaos and get his followers all worked up yellowdogintexas May 2020 #80
NOt true CA is first state to send all registered voters mail in ballots. Oregon has done Amaryllis May 2020 #71
Our primary was mail-in, xxqqqzme May 2020 #72
Kayleigh McAnally knows it's the end of the line. sandensea May 2020 #74
I can't wait for OH, PA, FL and MI to allow vote by mail. that's the REAL FEAR for GOP. nt bonniebgood May 2020 #82
Actually, Ohio already has vote by mail and this year Maeve May 2020 #84
Just can't get past "livid" next to "Trump." He doesn't get livid. He has tantrums. TheFourthMind May 2020 #83
Scum. *spitting at them* BlancheSplanchnik May 2020 #85

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
1. Too bad, asshole. The Constitution gives the states power
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:16 PM
May 2020

over their own election procedures. Not a damn thing he can do about it. What he's doing is setting the stage for a claim that the election was fixed - but we knew he'd do that anyhow if he lost, no matter what procedures the states used.

Bengus81

(6,907 posts)
64. Look what Oklahoma is doing with that "States" power.........
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:40 AM
May 2020

Making mail in ballots that much harder by requiring them to be notarized with TWO witnesses watching you sign the ballot. Unless every Notary in Oklahoma will do that for free then that's a poll tax. It also means in this time of CV you might have to talk someone else into going with you to sign.

Watch for more and more of that and Dems and the ACLU better get the HELL on top of it.

Cosmocat

(14,543 posts)
66. That is just flat fucking stupid
Sun May 10, 2020, 08:33 AM
May 2020

IF someone is going to go the effort of using mail in ballots to cheat the system what is three fake sigs vs one?

Bengus81

(6,907 posts)
2. The Fuhrer has spoken.....NO MAIL IN BALLOTS!!
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:19 PM
May 2020

Trump is really getting the ball rolling on the 2020 "rigged" election. He knows he's toast..........

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
78. Here's a news flash you incompetent fuck -
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:50 PM
May 2020

Here in WA, we've been voting by mail for years.

YOU don't get to decide whose votes count and whose don't.

Now STFD and STFU.

cstanleytech

(26,080 posts)
3. Notice how many Republicans are scared of people being able to vote?
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:21 PM
May 2020

It's almost like they are afraid of something.

Warpy

(110,913 posts)
19. Somehow, that's not a dead giveaway to grassroots Republicans
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:54 PM
May 2020

because they've been sold the horseshit about winning at any cost and that the end justifies the means.

The only way they can win is to keep everybody but themselves out of the polls. This recalls the early system in Communist Russia, only party members able to determine the shape of the government.

All the quakes in California over the last 30 years or so are from Nixon flipping around in his grave.

bucolic_frolic

(42,676 posts)
4. So what's going on in DC Courts with Flynn?
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:22 PM
May 2020

I didn't quite understand, not that I want to spend 2 hours to understand it. Barr installed a new prosecutor who oversees D.C.?

Any chance this guy also has jurisdiction of the counting of election returns, or the Electoral College, since Congress meets in D.C., that is, the Capitol? You see what I'm asking about? A choke point for validation of the 2000 presidential elections. Asking because Trump is whining about unfair to him again. We must think ahead.

turbinetree

(24,632 posts)
5. Yepper spot on....................
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:24 PM
May 2020

we the people have the right to oversee the ballots being counted...........

bucolic_frolic

(42,676 posts)
7. That's what I thought I was afraid of
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:28 PM
May 2020

Some whining, some manufactured drama about miscounts, a challenge in the courts to prevent Congress from validating returns, then an appeal to the Supreme Court. It's Bush v. Gore all over again.

yellowdogintexas

(22,119 posts)
79. we have a ballot board to review the mailed in votes
Sun May 10, 2020, 08:03 PM
May 2020

The biggest problem is folks signing the envelope and then sealing it. We are supposed to seal the envelope and then sign it.

The incorrectly signed ballots are returned to voter with envelopes etc to mail it back in (or drop it off at the elections office) This happened to me once; fortunately I had plenty of time to fix it.

I do not know if every vote by mail signature is verified against the registration signatures. I'll have to ask one of my friends who works on the ballot board.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,280 posts)
11. Congress counts the electoral votes, not some stooge from Barr's DoJ.
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:33 PM
May 2020

The states' electors meet in their respective state capitols in December to cast their votes, and the results are counted by Congress in a joint meeting in January of the Senate and House. The DoJ has nothing to do with it.

bucolic_frolic

(42,676 posts)
13. Right.
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:36 PM
May 2020

And McConnell had no right to ignore the Garland nomination. These people have a way of stretching legal frameworks to fit their needs. So suppose someone did come forward and seek an injunction because they said the states were unfair. It's a hypothetical, I know. Is it possible. Seek to invalidate election results from the largest state, California, by saying the mail-ins were illegal or crooked or miscounted or intercepted, and thereby denying an electoral majority to Joe Biden and it all winds up at the Supreme Court.

KPN

(15,587 posts)
60. My first thought on reading his tweet was that
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:19 AM
May 2020

he’s once again laying the groundwork for challenging the result —just as he did in 2016 but didn’t need to ultimately. This time he will, and will. We need to be prepared for this.

When I say we, I mean us, the voters. If your questions are indeed prescient, there is no way he or the GOP will accept defeat in the presidential election. They have too much to lose; much more than just power.

This is actually a frightening situation given our relative “acceptance” of everything tRump thus far. By acceptance I mean our overall and general societal willingness to let our system work, to trust the process will eventually take care of the problem.

bucolic_frolic

(42,676 posts)
8. And what exactly is Trump Whining about in California?
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:29 PM
May 2020

Republicans were about to win what 4 seats statewide? Trump stands no chance in California. Zero.

DENVERPOPS

(8,679 posts)
47. THAT'S NOT IT AT ALL........
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:14 PM
May 2020

He is foreshadowing, and laying the ground work for Barr to be able to throw out the election results when the Dems win on the basis of all the Democrat corruption. At worse it will end up in the Supreme Court like 2000 and we know how that will go......(Additional insurance in case Putin's interference doesn't work in the vote counting. Oh, and add the Saudi's, Netanyahoohoo, Kim, and maybe even the Chinese into the mix of tampering with the voting)

WASF

KPN

(15,587 posts)
61. THIS. We are being played already. Machiavelli
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:22 AM
May 2020

is already at work to replicate the 2000 fiasco/heist.

brewens

(13,399 posts)
9. That's really stupid to pick a fight with a state he had no chance of winning anyway. So now that
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:30 PM
May 2020

opens up a huge can of worms. If he says that about California, he has to go after the other mail-in states too doesn't he? WA, OR, UT, CO, and HI. I'm all over eastern WA frequently and know lots of Trump followers there. I seriously even think they would give up their vote by mail. As much as they hate Inslee and some of their other democratic party representatives, I have never heard them blame it on vote by mail.

I guess it's about discouraging other states to vote by mail.

chowder66

(9,011 posts)
10. Every REGISTERED voter can vote by mail as it is. Newsom is just making it safe by mailing
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:30 PM
May 2020

the ballots to everyone...who is REGISTERED. Republicans, Democrats, Independents and others. That doesn't mean everyone will vote but it makes it safer to do so.

Trump is a walking pustule.

docgee

(870 posts)
12. That was a Freudian slip there.
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:36 PM
May 2020

When did Democrats steal an election? Who stole an election? That would be the orange shitstain himself.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
67. Well there was that time in 1874.......
Sun May 10, 2020, 10:24 AM
May 2020

oops..... nope Hayes was a Republican and Tilden the Democrat.

NYC Liberal

(20,132 posts)
81. In fact, a Republican has never won the popular vote but lost the EC.
Mon May 11, 2020, 09:06 AM
May 2020

It’s only ever happened to Democrats.

If it ever happened to a Republican, the EC would be gone before Inauguration Day.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
15. Is tRump throwing out the entire constitution, or just the 10th Amendment?
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:41 PM
May 2020

presumably he's aware that CA wasn't going to vote for him anyway?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
16. "After voting by mail, Trump denounces voting by mail"
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:42 PM
May 2020

April 8, 2020, 7:20 AM MDT
By Steve Benen

"Mail ballots are corrupt, in my opinion," Trump said. But reporters pointed out that Trump has voted by mail, by absentee ballot, in his adopted state of Florida.”

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/after-voting-mail-trump-denounces-voting-mail-n1179036

iemitsu

(3,888 posts)
17. We do it in Washington and our votes count.
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:42 PM
May 2020

And could be recounted if need be, unlike in many of the cheating republican states.

MurrayDelph

(5,281 posts)
52. In the ten years I've lived in Oregon
Sun May 10, 2020, 12:48 AM
May 2020

The only recorded case of voter fraud Oregon had was when a low-level vote counter was caught filling in down-ballot offices that had been submitted blank.

yellowdogintexas

(22,119 posts)
77. In TX any one 65 or older, or disabled or other wise unable to physically vote
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:45 PM
May 2020

can request a voter application. When that application is received, the voter will receive every ballot for every election for the rest of that year.

Our State Democratic party has been sending these applications out to every eligible vote by mail voter who can be identified as either a Democrat or otherwise Democratic leaning so they do not have to remember to request them. This has been going on since 2008 and our voting numbers have increased as a result. The application still needs to be returned to get ballots for the rest of the year; those who prefer to vote in person don't send back the application.

We were unsuccessful in getting our governor to approve sending ballots to all registered voters for our runoff in July. We did well to get that election moved from May to July. I am concerned about upcoming elections if COVID ramps up here, which I fully expect it to do

AllaN01Bear

(17,383 posts)
20. you republicans put in vote by mail in california to get around democrats whilst they were in power.
Sat May 9, 2020, 07:58 PM
May 2020

now he wants to change the game in mid stream. not.

dweller

(23,562 posts)
26. OKAY ... ok .. cool out ... California, don't count the votes for fatnixon.. sheesh
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:09 PM
May 2020

happy now ?

✌🏼

Stuart G

(38,365 posts)
27. States control who votes and how..Vote by mail increases voting. see POST # 1
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:10 PM
May 2020

..Trump has picked the wrong fight with the wrong state on the totally wrong issue. Why? Trump does not run the State of California. How to vote, when to vote, and where to vote are ..state issues
.. The long term outlook must be, that if California can do it, other states can do it. The vote by mail people (it seems to Trump) are more, "liberal" then the vote at the polling place people...Trump is finally getting the hint that he is going to loose.
.. Trump is blaming...VOTE BY MAIL not the real reason why he will lose. He always has to blame someone other than himself. This is a very stupid battle that Trump is starting.

yellowdogintexas

(22,119 posts)
73. no it is working against their plan to reduce the number of non MAGATS who vote
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:17 PM
May 2020

although in California the issue is sort of moot

riversedge

(69,727 posts)
32. I imagine he had good lawyers looke at this before he posted. But knowing trump and Barr, I
Sat May 9, 2020, 08:40 PM
May 2020

am sure CA is in for a battle. iMHO

hadEnuf

(2,150 posts)
35. Any kind of a verifiable voting system with a paper trail is a threat to Trump and the GOP.
Sat May 9, 2020, 09:00 PM
May 2020

They need computerized voting in person to cheat again.

Grokenstein

(5,707 posts)
36. I can't figure this out.
Sat May 9, 2020, 09:03 PM
May 2020

Is Fat Bastard mad because Newsom opened a voting booth?

Or because Newsom promotes voting by mail as a safe alternative?

One doesn't negate the other, Generalissimo Corpulente.

But it's comforting to know that providing voters with more (and safer) options scares the hell out of you...and all your cultists and moscowbots on Twitter.

On way or another, in January you're gone.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
39. when is he NOT livid - pls media, stop reporting on this bs as if it was news. Just tell us when he
Sat May 9, 2020, 09:34 PM
May 2020

says something positive about ANYTHING.

EndlessWire

(6,377 posts)
41. Another thing you can do in California
Sat May 9, 2020, 09:42 PM
May 2020

is to fill out your mail-in ballot, then hand deliver it to the poll site. You put it in the locked box yourself.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
42. we have lots of ballot boxes in nearly every neighborhood
Sat May 9, 2020, 09:45 PM
May 2020

Last edited Mon May 11, 2020, 11:25 AM - Edit history (1)

I personally never send my ballot via USPS, I always drop it to ballot collection box. Then after election you can go to CA website and verify that you ballot was received and counted.

yellowdogintexas

(22,119 posts)
75. we can do that here in Texas.
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:23 PM
May 2020

As a precinct chair I can track every ballot sent to my voters and confirm when it has been received by the elections office. Actually I can see the list of ballot applications sent by the Elections Office, the date those were returned and the date ballots were sent as well. This info helps me get the voters to return their ballots.

I have never checked the Election Office's public page for that info because I have access to the VAN.

yellowdogintexas

(22,119 posts)
76. Question. Here in TX we can either mail them or drop them at the Elections Office.
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:37 PM
May 2020

Are the ballot collections boxes emptied every day? How is that managed? In my mind, the Elections Office has folks to pick up the boxes and swap them out with empty ones. OR put the contents into a container for returning to the Elections Office.

Scenario: box is at the public library and is sealed with a numbered seal which has been recorded. Election worker picks up the box, replaces it with an empty box which has a numbered seal and takes the first one back to the elections office, where it is checked in and the seal numbers verified before the box is opened. Is that how it is being handled?


That is how we keep control of the paper ballots used at our voting centers here. Every thing that has to do with the votes arrives sealed, all of the seal numbers are recorded when we break them and the broken seals are saved for return to the elections office. When we close up for the night, we reseal every single thing and record those seal numbers on the same form. The forms come to us with the numbers for our equipment already printed so if a seal does not match the list we call the main office immediately to get replacements.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
43. Jeebus, Trumpy gets worse by the second.
Sat May 9, 2020, 09:56 PM
May 2020

I've been a CA resident since 1982 and due to job requirements, absentee balloting, have not been in a voter booth for nearly 40 years.

So my votes don't count, you absolute moron.

Hamlette

(15,394 posts)
45. what about red states that do all mail in ballots
Sat May 9, 2020, 10:04 PM
May 2020

like Utah. You can do in person voting too but we all get sent a mail in ballot.

LudwigPastorius

(8,944 posts)
49. Go fuck yourself, Fat Boy.
Sat May 9, 2020, 11:08 PM
May 2020

Nothing you can do about it, asshole. Get ready to be forced out of the People's House in shame, and to have to report to a courtroom or three.

kacekwl

(6,994 posts)
50. If this pissed him off so bad
Sat May 9, 2020, 11:36 PM
May 2020

then all states should follow California. This must throw a monkey 🔧 in Putin and McConnell 's plan.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
51. this is diversionary bluster
Sat May 9, 2020, 11:51 PM
May 2020

The turd just appointed Louis DeJoy as the new postmaster general. He will do for the USPS what Barr Barr has done for the DOJ.

So now he controls the USPS.

How do you think THAT is going to work out for us?

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
54. Scary, isn't it?
Sun May 10, 2020, 01:30 AM
May 2020

Everyone with functioning brain cells should read "It Cant Happen Here" written in 1935 by Sinclair Lewis. If they can't read they ought to see the movie "A Face in the Crowd" with Andy Griffith as a serious actor.

Aristus

(66,096 posts)
55. I'm so goddamned sick and TIRED of his childish tantrums.
Sun May 10, 2020, 01:36 AM
May 2020

I so incredibly want Joe Biden to kick Trump's ass out of our White House...

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
56. If he were your neighbor wouldn't you request a restraining order?
Sun May 10, 2020, 01:46 AM
May 2020

He is thoroughly nuts and evil.

And I marched against Nixon and Bush 43.

Aristus

(66,096 posts)
57. Hell no. I'd probably go over in the middle of the night and burn his house down.
Sun May 10, 2020, 01:52 AM
May 2020

He's burning my country down; it's only fair.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
69. I totally agree
Sun May 10, 2020, 02:27 PM
May 2020

I was trying to be polite, but that doesn't exist in Dumpworld. I'm pretty old now, but I live for the day when he crashes and burns (hopefully on live TV except Fox)

Along with everything else, he hates animals. If animals could talk you know what they'd say.

duforsure

(11,882 posts)
58. I doubt he's livid at all
Sun May 10, 2020, 05:28 AM
May 2020

And this is promoted so he has excuses to use to hurt California , and the Democrat Governor. He picks fights with manufactured outrage as an excuse to abuse his powers to hurt others who oppose him . He knows California will never go for him in this election on Nov. , so his lashing out proclaiming his disapproval, which is corrupt, and for corrupt intentions. He promotes division , and incites people capable of violence for him, then deny's his behavior promoting it. Fascist trump has to do this to use to divide and weaken us with to undermine this government even more. Just like he wants to blame China for his no response to this virus outbreak, when he knew all along and did nothing to stop it, and actually did things to hurt others trying to prevent its spread in this country. Voting by mail will be stopped someway by trump, just watch him.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
68. Just go ahead and have the Supreme Court rule (it will be 5 to 4 on party lines) that
Sun May 10, 2020, 11:05 AM
May 2020

ANYTHING THAT MAY HARM TRUMPS POSSIBLE ELECTION WIN MUST BE STOPPED. As in the Bush vs Gore ruling to STOP COUNTING THE VOTES.

'Cause you KNOW that is where they are headed. Even though the Supreme Court said in the ruling itself, that the ruling could NOT be used as precedent...

So the turd thinks he now has his three relevant options covered...

1. Pootie Poot has the electronic voting covered. That is a done deal.

2. The Supreme Court should rule that this entire vote-by-mail arrangement is for the purpose of harming the election chances of the turd. Therefore they must stop it.

3. But even if they DON'T rule in his favor, the point is moot, since EVERY MAIL-IN-BALLOT must now go through a USPS that has had a turd lackey appointed as postmaster general to completely control the vote-by-mail process, (just like the turd lackey Bill Barr was appointed to subvert control of the DOJ process for the benefit of the turd. Boy THAT one has paid off, BIG TIME).



We better start pushing OUR narrative now, listing these justifications, so that EVERY American will KNOW that THE ELECTION IS BEING RIGGED, right in front of our eyes!!!

haele

(12,581 posts)
70. He's messaging to the racists and "true believers"
Sun May 10, 2020, 02:44 PM
May 2020

He doesn't care about mail voting, he just wants to cause chaos in the state so he can claim that "liberal idea" like actual governance and rule of law are useless in an emergency that can be potentially profitable for his fellow grifters.

Haele

yellowdogintexas

(22,119 posts)
80. I think this is really it. Sewing chaos and get his followers all worked up
Sun May 10, 2020, 08:19 PM
May 2020

so they will hit the streets demanding recounts, or just generally raising hell about mail in ballots.

It is a fairly long reach for the Postmaster General to be sure that enough ballots have been "relocated" to swing an election one way or another. It would be counterproductive for all mail ins to be tossed or lost or whatever just to be sure all the Democratic ones didn't count. Anything they tried to do that interferes with the voting process will cause problems on both sides

For starters, the ballot would have to be opened to verify who the person voted for. So if the voter chose the correct party, there is the problem of getting it put back together so that tampering would not be suspected. If a vote by mail arrived at our elections office with the seal flap over the signature damaged, it would just go back to the voter with a new voting envelope

Now if they managed to shut down the entire postal system by November 3 that is a different matter. I think the plan is to cut budgets, lay off workers, reduce staff in the busiest postal stations and otherwise muck around with the system, but I don't think they can accomplish the complete obliteration of the USPS by November. For one thing, wouldn't Congress have to pass something?

Amaryllis

(9,523 posts)
71. NOt true CA is first state to send all registered voters mail in ballots. Oregon has done
Sun May 10, 2020, 03:00 PM
May 2020

this for years. OUr Senator Wyden has been pushing for national VBM for years also. My primary ballot is sitting on my kitchen table. This year there is a postage paid envelope to mail it back in.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
72. Our primary was mail-in,
Sun May 10, 2020, 04:16 PM
May 2020

early voting, kiosk registration. You name it, California tried for the primary. Everyone received a mail in ballot, clearly written instructions and what to do if you wanted to vote in person. You could vote outside your precinct.It was great!

sandensea

(21,530 posts)
74. Kayleigh McAnally knows it's the end of the line.
Sun May 10, 2020, 07:22 PM
May 2020

"Larry Flynt? Hi, it's me Kayleigh..." **dialtone** "Hello? Hello?"

Maeve

(42,224 posts)
84. Actually, Ohio already has vote by mail and this year
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:20 PM
May 2020

At the very least, everyone registered should get an absentee ballot request in the mail (yeah, we're pushing for more, but our legislature are not the best and brightest folks we could have voted for). And it is "no reason required"--if you want to vote absentee, you can. Several things screwed up our primary, including a "download the request form and mail it in" bit of nonsense, but we really are trying to fix it!

TheFourthMind

(343 posts)
83. Just can't get past "livid" next to "Trump." He doesn't get livid. He has tantrums.
Mon May 11, 2020, 02:14 PM
May 2020

Trump Throws fit After California Allows Statewide Mail-In Voting. Trump was heard screaming, "These Votes Must Not Count!" while slamming his little baby hands on the tray of his high chair."

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