Trump wonders if COVID-19 genomes gave fake quotes to the NYT in bizarre Saturday outburst
Source: raw story
Published 2 hours ago on April 11, 2020
President Donald Trump lashed out at The New York Times on Saturday.
So now the Fake News The New York Times is tracing the CoronaVirus origins back to Europe, NOT China. This is a first! I wonder where (sic) the Failing New York Times got for this one? Are there any NAMED sources? Trump wondered.
However, the reporting from The Times was not based on anonymous sources.
New research indicates that the coronavirus began to circulate in the New York area by mid-February, weeks before the first confirmed case, and that travelers brought in the virus mainly from Europe, not Asia, The Times reported on Wednesday.
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The story cited now research by geneticists at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai and the N.Y.U. Grossman School of Medicine.
Both teams analyzed genomes from coronaviruses taken from New Yorkers starting in mid-March, the newspaper noted. The research revealed a previously hidden spread of the virus that might have been detected if aggressive testing programs had been put in place.
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Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/04/trump-wonders-if-covid-19-genomes-gave-fake-quotes-to-the-nyt-in-bizarre-saturday-outburst/
Trump can't blame China anymore.--or should I say he needs to stop with the I stopped the flights early from China.!!
tsk tsk tsk
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Study Finds Most Cases of COVID-19 in NYC Came From Europe, Other Places in US
The study also found that, while the first New York State case was confirmed in March, the virus was circulating around the area weeks beforehand
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/study-finds-most-cases-of-covid-19-in-nyc-came-from-europe-other-places-in-us/2368010/
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"Are there any NAMED sources? Trump wondered.
However, the reporting from The Times was not based on anonymous sources...
The story cited now research by geneticists at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai and the N.Y.U. Grossman School of Medicine:"
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Published April 9, 2020 Updated on April 10, 2020 at 12:47 am
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New York Citys first confirmed COVID-19 cases are from primarily European and United States sources, according to the first molecular epidemiology study of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19
The study, which was published online, was led by Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai researchers and is the first to trace the source of the cases
The study also found that, although the first New York State case was confirmed in March, the virus was circulating around the area weeks beforehand
New York Citys first confirmed COVID-19 cases are from primarily European and United States sources, according to the first molecular epidemiology study of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, conducted by Mount Sinai.
The study, which was published online, was led by Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai researchers and is the first to trace the source of the cases. The study shows that the epidemic in the city predominately arose through untracked transmission between the United States and Europe. It also found limited evidence to support any direct introductions from China, where the virus originated, or other locations in Asia.
"These results show that SARS-CoV-2 came to the New York City area predominately via Europe through untracked transmissions," Viviana Simon, MD, PhD, Professor of Microbiology and Infectious Diseases at ISMMS, said. "Only one of the cases studied was infected with a virus that was a clear candidate for introduction from Asia, and that virus is most closely related to viral isolates from Seattle, Washington."...............................
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Tiger8
(432 posts)niyad
(113,344 posts)Ohiogal
(32,006 posts)2naSalit
(86,647 posts)Botany
(70,516 posts)Good God in Butter the man is stupid. Please hold me and tell me he didn't say that.
A genome is the sum of the genetic material of an organism We have people who
are called geneticists, molecular geneticists, and microbiologists who can look at
protein sequences and then they can tell things about the genome and where it
came from.
Grokenstein
(5,725 posts)"genomes" are the things that people put on their lawns which steal underwear. You know, garden genomes!
(also they cause cancer and kill eagles, millions and millions of eagles)
RandySF
(58,911 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,414 posts)He and the other Republicans have made it pretty clear that they want to lay the blame for the Pandemic at China's (and WHO's) feet. Not that Europe or anywhere else should be blamed for the Pandemic and/or the failure to keep it from spreading here. It is apparent that we were warned about the possibility for a Pandemic to spread here in the US in at least enough time to marshal forces and prepare for it earlier. Neither China nor WHO had anything to do with Trump's lack of response to information that was circulating in January/February (and possibly earlier).
Skittles
(153,169 posts)he's a racist piece of shit
dalton99a
(81,516 posts)Grokenstein
(5,725 posts)...especially among morons with Nazi heritage. How's the "bat sushi" meme workin' out for ya now, edgelords?
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)MarianJack
(10,237 posts)I like it.
#notmypresident
#idiotinchief
RESIST
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)There was some large number of people (40,000?) who came through from China after tRump "blocked" flights. Some were legitimate airlifts repatriating citizens. Others not so much. Few of those returnees were asked question about their health and even fewer had their temperature taken. Many were crowded into arrival corridors.
Why did tRump close China and not Europe? Because he is a racist.
He could not conceive of a pandemic spread by white people.
yonder
(9,666 posts)...is asking for sources?
?????
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)No good just halting flights from PRC. Covid-19 could have come into the US from anywhere. Flight from PRC to Canada, and from Canada to Washington state... At the same time flight from PRC to some city in Europe (Northern Italy?) And from there to the USA (New York?) and spread from there.
Viruses have DNA type traits and thus they can be somewhat traced. DJT just doesn't seem to get science, does he?
Lock him up.
(6,933 posts)I was just waiting for confirmation of what I believed it to be:
Racist orangevirus closed in flights from China and then said there were 15 cases that would go down to zero. (The stupid, it burns!)
The fact that people travel from China to Europe, some of them infected transmitted the coronavirus to others in Europe, and then these people took flights to the United States from Europe (mostly to New York), eluded the very stable genius...
LOCK HIM UP before it's too late (it's way too late already)!
SergeStorms
(19,203 posts)you've been replaced as 'All-Time Stupidest United States President'. It was nip and tuck there for awhile, but Donald J. Trump has firmly wrested the crown away from you, and to be quite honest, probably will never relinquish the crown.
iluvtennis
(19,863 posts)
The study, which was published online, was led by Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai researchers and is the first to trace the source of the cases.
The study shows that the epidemic in the city predominately arose through untracked transmission between the United States and Europe.
It also found limited evidence to support any direct introductions from China, where the virus originated, or other locations in Asia.
virus originated in China. Transmissions to NYC primarily came via Europe.
Lock him up.
(6,933 posts)& Generals
& Public Servants
& Intelligence Service
He alone can fix it.
generalbetrayus
(507 posts)No wonder he's going even more bonkers than usual!
niyad
(113,344 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)Not a single reliable source has reported that. The authoritative source of information on his golf outings doesn't list him golfing since he was in Florida in early March.
niyad
(113,344 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)onenote
(42,714 posts)The contract to which you refer runs through September. That doesn't mean they were used last weekend.
niyad
(113,344 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)After complaining once again about Fake News stories which don't name the sources, he retweets the following:
Link to tweet
He can't bitch about the press using unnamed sources and then turn around and do the same thing himself.
niyad
(113,344 posts)Words mean what I say they mean.
LudwigPastorius
(9,155 posts)white European people are "clean", and yellow, brown, or black people are "diseased" or "dirty".
What a shit-brained, racist, KKK motherfucker.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)brush
(53,788 posts)home, thousands, were stuck in airports in customs waiting in crowded lines, shoulder-to-shoulder. Stupid trump hadn't thought of making any arrangements for that many returnees, and of course there was no social distancing then.
That is most likely how the European strain came here, in fact, the first hot spot in New Rochelle, NY was traced to one of those returnees.
7wo7rees
(5,128 posts)We live in city that was one of 12 designated (DFW) international airports. I knew we were all royally f'd then.
But it was long after mid Feb........
Luckily I had requested the week b4 of 7wo7rees that he try to see if he could work from home. He worked in a tower complex with 8K plus streaming in and out every day. He started working from home morning of the 16th. We were lucky but risk had to be reduced.
We live with and take care of my 84 year old mom.
And we both have health conditions that put us in high risk zone.
What a nightmare and this should not have happened!
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)China to Italy where they have leather factories near Florence. The staff flying back and forth from Wuhan to Milan.
Switzerland where I live, gets about 40% of their tourism dollars from China. 40 million people visit Switzerland every year. Switzerland borders Italy and that is where most of the concentration of cases are in Switzerland. Also, they didn't shut the border between Italy and Switzerland soon enough as border crossers work on both sides. Remember those skiers in France had been infected that were holidaying France ski resorts. There was a connection from one of them that had recently flown in from China.
Then all of those tourists around Europe going back and forth from Italy from all over the country, including NYC. They shut down the flights from China but then those in China took other flights via Europe to get to the states until those flight were shut down.
By then, it was too late. It was already in the states, mostly Seattle and NYC.
And here we are.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)were being processed by taking their temperatures and checking their health. That's why it took so long and why they were sitting ducks.
I've flown Europe to Chicago O'Hare and those hallways from the gates to customs and passport control are LONG. It takes a good 5 minute walk up and down escalators to the passport control area.
NBachers
(17,122 posts)I'm willing to change my mind, but I don't see anything that says trump thinks the genomes themselves are giving out fake information to the Times.
That's what the headline is saying.
Aussie105
(5,401 posts)Anyhow.
Not too difficult to trace back the origins of the virus. The US version may well have it's origin in Europe, but where did it come from before then?
Just a matter of studying the base sequence of the viral RNA from different places, and comparing them.
The more the virus replicates, the more base sequence errors occur. So the one with the most errors would be from ground zero.
And that may well be anywhere. Only further research into the base sequences of viral RNA from different geographical locations will tell the full story.
But that is only of academic interest, people are kind of busy right now with more important things.
As always, Trump's simplistic view of reality - 'It is all China's fault!' - may not be the whole true picture.
SunSeeker
(51,574 posts)Ligyron
(7,633 posts)From Wiki: "The genome of an organism is the whole of its hereditary information encoded in its DNA (or, for some viruses, RNA)."
Genomes have no fingers to type with nor a voice box to speak with.
By a lot of measures, Genomes, their component DNA or in this case RNA are not even alive.
Trump really is a moran.
Ligyron
(7,633 posts)From Wiki: "The genome of an organism is the whole of its hereditary information encoded in its DNA (or, for some viruses, RNA)."
Genomes have no fingers to type with nor a voice box to speak with.
By a lot of measures, Genomes, their component DNA or in this case RNA are not even alive.
Trump really is a moran.
Botany
(70,516 posts)Well the DNA and the RNA inside the nucleus might not have given a quote to the NY Times
but cellular mitochondrial DNA is always on the twitter. I wonder what Fauci has to be thinking
in being next to that moron.
Wuddles440
(1,123 posts)ANYBODY, please, please muzzle this motherfucker! I beg of you, PLEASE!!! I can't stand it anymore, he's turning my brain into a giant black hole!
MarcA
(2,195 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)that he doesn't illustrate what a total effing asshole he is.
Hav
(5,969 posts)that it was not that long ago that Trump said publicly that the experts around him wonder how he knows so much about this topic. Amazing, isn't it?
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)are they just saying 'people have said'?"