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Catch2.2

(629 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:39 PM Mar 2020

Trump claims he can gag Congress's watchdog for coronavirus bailouts

Source: Quartz

This week the US Congress wrangled over how to ensure pandemic relief loans for corporations were given out responsibly. Under the final legislation, an independent watchdog is supposed to gather information for lawmakers about those loans and, if they get thwarted, let Congress know. That’s what negotiators from both parties decided on, and what the House and Senate both approved. Yesterday Donald Trump announced that he was going to ignore all that.

In a so-called signing statement, Trump said that the watchdog, technically a “special inspector general,” actually won’t be allowed to tell Congress if executive branch officials—such as Treasury secretary Steven Mnuchin—stonewall, unless the executive branch approves. Trump said his administration would not treat the provision “as permitting the [Special Inspector General for Pandemic Recovery] to issue reports to the Congress without the presidential supervision required by the Take Care Clause, Article II, section 3.”

That clause of the US Constitution requires the president to “take care that the laws be faithfully executed.” Trump’s statement cites it while claiming he gets final say over what the special inspector general tells Congress. In essence, Trump asserts that the law lawmakers passed is unconstitutional—and rather than asking a court to settle the dispute, he is just going to ignore it.

Read more: https://qz.com/1827655/trump-claims-he-can-gag-congresss-watchdog-for-coronavirus-bailouts/?utm_source=YPL&yptr=yahoo

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Trump claims he can gag Congress's watchdog for coronavirus bailouts (Original Post) Catch2.2 Mar 2020 OP
Fuck trump and putin ! stonecutter357 Mar 2020 #1
Or a maggot on a gut wagon. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #2
Sure he can because he's a criminal and kacekwl Mar 2020 #3
No you can't. Reports to Congress, not you. SWBTATTReg Mar 2020 #4
That means he has already promised the money and collected the bribes McCamy Taylor Mar 2020 #5
The $500 billion will be transferred to his big donors by noon Monday, at the latest. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2020 #37
When Biden wins the election in November dump will do the same damn thing. rickyhall Mar 2020 #6
Please don't go there..and pile on! The election is an entirely different issue Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #12
Is it? rickyhall Mar 2020 #14
Yes, I believe it is Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #18
That's why "signing statements" should be challenged as unconstitutional. 3Hotdogs Mar 2020 #7
Oh they can say what they want in one. But it carries no weight of law. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #17
Why not an appeal to the Supreme Court? TheRickles Mar 2020 #8
I'm sure they will come up with a verdict Mr.Bill Mar 2020 #27
We have a Dictator. sarcasmo Mar 2020 #9
More accurately, we have a mob boss in charge of our country. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2020 #38
would that we could gag him.... dhill926 Mar 2020 #10
This just turns my gut!! I just can't imagine that Pelosi and Schumer didn't know about that Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #11
I suspect Pelosi and Schumer are talking about this now. Laelth Mar 2020 #26
Hope so! Neither are easy fooled Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #33
I despise this wrenched excuse of a man. Ferryboat Mar 2020 #13
He's bucking for an impeachment: Go for it, Donnie, sez I! marble falls Mar 2020 #15
Why would he want to? Only 1 reason. Corruption. For personal gain (election) & rewarding red states Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #16
That, plus the ego massage. nt Progressive Jones Mar 2020 #20
"....rewarding red state businesses" and hurting deserving blue state firms from Silicon Valley. machoneman Mar 2020 #21
No, we knew he'd maybe try and pull this off. See, it could be a trap... machoneman Mar 2020 #19
orange virus would just tweet "FAKE NEWS" (the $3.9B)... Lock him up. Mar 2020 #28
signing statements: "I dare you to impeach me (again)" Fiendish Thingy Mar 2020 #22
That Senate? Nope. Lock him up. Mar 2020 #29
Please Joe Freddie Mar 2020 #23
Use this against him. Put it out there everywhere. LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #24
I assume his approval rating went up after making this outrageous statement? n/t TheFourthMind Mar 2020 #25
If they let tRUMP get away with this bullshit bluestarone Mar 2020 #30
They better!!! Catch2.2 Mar 2020 #31
NO WAY bluestarone Mar 2020 #34
I hope! Catch2.2 Mar 2020 #36
Of course he can. As a result of the Senate GOPs... olddad65 Mar 2020 #32
dotard knows he can't postpone the election. Congress sets the date for election Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #35
The election won't be cancelled or suspended. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #41
Rat's Nest nwliberalkiwi Mar 2020 #39
Chronic ignorer of rules/laws, this is so shocking! Brainfodder Mar 2020 #40

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
3. Sure he can because he's a criminal and
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:42 PM
Mar 2020

the criminal and corrupt republicans will refuse to convict him.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
5. That means he has already promised the money and collected the bribes
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:44 PM
Mar 2020

and does not want to give the bribes back.

37. The $500 billion will be transferred to his big donors by noon Monday, at the latest.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:32 PM
Mar 2020

And Trump is telling Congress that no matter what the bill he just signed into law says, he's not going to tell them anything about who gets the money. I wonder how many millions of dollars end up in his pocket?

Meanwhile, Fat Donnie is instructing Treasury to have his signature printed on the personal stimulus checks, so people will know he is personally giving them the money (lie #16,897). This is most likely against the law -- and definitely unprecedented -- but since when do laws bother him? Hell, the Republican senators already told him he can do whatever he wants and they've got his back.

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
6. When Biden wins the election in November dump will do the same damn thing.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:56 PM
Mar 2020

What're we gonna do about it?

Thekaspervote

(32,754 posts)
18. Yes, I believe it is
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:38 PM
Mar 2020

Congress sets the date. If dotard tries to cancel the election that won’t help him. If there is no election, come 1/20/2021 at noon he and pence are out and the speaker of the house becomes the interim president.

TheRickles

(2,056 posts)
8. Why not an appeal to the Supreme Court?
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:09 PM
Mar 2020

If he's overruled, great. If not, then at least we know for sure the SC won't be our saviors.

38. More accurately, we have a mob boss in charge of our country.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:43 PM
Mar 2020

You better kiss his ring if you want his blessing, otherwise his supporters will put a horse's head in your bed.

Thekaspervote

(32,754 posts)
11. This just turns my gut!! I just can't imagine that Pelosi and Schumer didn't know about that
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:18 PM
Mar 2020

And were that easily hoodwinked.

Sure wish we would hear from the Dems about this!

Rethinking what I wrote above, I don’t think the Dems think he can do that, or we would be hearing from Pelosi, Schumer Schiff and others

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
26. I suspect Pelosi and Schumer are talking about this now.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:22 PM
Mar 2020

They’re not going to say anything until they have a unified response. That’s what I imagine is happening, in any event.



-Laelth

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
21. "....rewarding red state businesses" and hurting deserving blue state firms from Silicon Valley.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:42 PM
Mar 2020

Yeah, give it all to coal, oil, mineral extraction firms. Liberty University. Rush Limpball's School of Losers. Jerry Falwell Jr's. League of Assholes. Yeah, that's the ticket!

machoneman

(4,006 posts)
19. No, we knew he'd maybe try and pull this off. See, it could be a trap...
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:38 PM
Mar 2020

for not only Trump but camp followers like Mnuchin and other Treasury staff. See, we can easily fire up more impeachable offense articles and just before Election Day. Then, even though nothing would be resolved quickly, we can use the negative press against him. Here's some great framing:

"Hey, remember that lousy 1,200 check you got? Well, guess what?

Mnuchin got Trump $3.9 BILLION out of tthe same deal illegally by ignoring the Congressional mandate that none of Trump's business' could benefit. And tried to hide it as well.

Chaps you ass, huh?

Then vote the OrangeDildo out in November."

Lock him up.

(6,925 posts)
28. orange virus would just tweet "FAKE NEWS" (the $3.9B)...
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:36 PM
Mar 2020

... to his base of gullible cultists and they would believe every single lie with no evidence given again.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,570 posts)
22. signing statements: "I dare you to impeach me (again)"
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:43 PM
Mar 2020

Congress didn't have the guts to impeach Bush for his hundreds of signing statements- will they hold Trump accountable and uphold the rule of law?

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
23. Please Joe
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:45 PM
Mar 2020

The ad writes itself: While thousands of Americans are sick and dying, Trump managed to sneakily invalidate part of a BIPARTISAN law - the part that would prevent him from making a profit off the American taxpayers.

bluestarone

(16,905 posts)
30. If they let tRUMP get away with this bullshit
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:47 PM
Mar 2020

Congress will be a thing of the past!! (until JOE gets in there) Then Harris will put them ALL in jail!!

Catch2.2

(629 posts)
31. They better!!!
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:54 PM
Mar 2020

My fear is that we will hear the "It's time to unify the country and move on." line. Trump and the Republicans will get away with everything.

olddad65

(599 posts)
32. Of course he can. As a result of the Senate GOPs...
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 07:05 PM
Mar 2020

..having failed the voters by not fulfilling their oath of office to defend the constitution. When Trump was not removed from office, the constitution was invalidated and on that day, democracy ended.
Trump is above the law. The dept of Justice has been gutted, the Senate has been gutted.
Trump is fascist dictator who is beholding only to a foreign fascist dictator who interfered with our 2016 presidental election and installed his puppet.
If you don’t think our government makes sense any m longer, perhaps you have not been looking at the situation from my perspective. From my perspective, it all makes total sense, and it isn’t pretty.
Wait a few months until Trump postpones the 2020 presidential election. If he wants to, he can declare martial law and invite his master to send ‘peacekeeping troops’.
Isn’t that we have done in the past to countless other countries all over the world. Turns out the cold war wasn’t really over in 1991, like Bush Sr. proclaimed.

Thekaspervote

(32,754 posts)
35. dotard knows he can't postpone the election. Congress sets the date for election
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 07:12 PM
Mar 2020

And, if there is no presidential election, his term ends on 1/20/2021 and speaker of the house becomes the interim president

He truly believes he will be re-elected

Turin_C3PO

(13,960 posts)
41. The election won't be cancelled or suspended.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 02:31 PM
Mar 2020

Congress sets the date and individual states run the national election. Most states would tell him to fuck off if he even tried that bullshit.

nwliberalkiwi

(367 posts)
39. Rat's Nest
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:34 AM
Mar 2020

Everybody knew this was coming!!! This system is so screwed!!! Everybody has blood on their hands allowing this to happen. We Democrats need to stand up and shine a light on this corruption on a massive scale.

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