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groundloop

(11,518 posts)
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 08:13 PM Feb 2020

Marine general orders removal of Confederate items at bases

Source: ABC News

WASHINGTON -- All Confederate flags, bumper stickers and similar items must be removed from Marine Corps bases, according to a new directive from the commandant.

Marine Gen. David Berger has told his commanders to begin implementing the order or develop plans to do so by Saturday.

The order was included in a sweeping memo Berger sent out last week that calls for administrative changes and other reviews. They range from efforts to recruit additional women for combat jobs, restrictions on Marines convicted of domestic violence and the possible expansion of maternity leave and guidelines for pregnant service members.

Berger's memo provides no details on the Confederate order, but simply directs “the removal of all Confederate-related paraphernalia from Marine Corps installations.” But the plan would cover flags, signs and other Confederate symbols.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/marine-general-orders-removal-confederate-items-bases-69287809?cid=clicksource_4380645_9_heads_posts_headlines_hed

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Marine general orders removal of Confederate items at bases (Original Post) groundloop Feb 2020 OP
I'm surprised that's a thing that needs to be done ck4829 Feb 2020 #1
Exactly. Alarming that those anti-US symbols were ever allowed at all on gov't property. n/t Judi Lynn Feb 2020 #3
I belong to a couple of Marine Corps veterans groups on Facebook SnowCritter Feb 2020 #14
Yep, dware Mar 2020 #16
Wonder if that applies to vehicles on base? unc70 Feb 2020 #2
the idea they were ever allowed to display such racist trash Skittles Feb 2020 #4
yes, exactly. Evolve Dammit Feb 2020 #7
I do NOT remember seeing that when I served Skittles Feb 2020 #13
Different times Skittles, dware Mar 2020 #17
yeah Skittles Mar 2020 #22
I was Army, and I saw lots of them Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2020 #18
You know what else is good enough for the Marines and should be good enough for the country? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2020 #5
Soon he won't have a job. Trump will see to that. blueinredohio Feb 2020 #6
That may be. But he did what was right. This is what leadership should look like. Evolve Dammit Feb 2020 #8
I agree wholeheartedly. blueinredohio Feb 2020 #10
Yep ck4829 Mar 2020 #25
Racism implications aside, Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #9
I was always puzzled by naming US Naval vessels after confederate figures Cirque du So-What Feb 2020 #11
They also named Army bases after them. Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2020 #19
I am a Navy veteran Cirque du So-What Mar 2020 #20
I am an Army veteran Fortinbras Armstrong Mar 2020 #21
It's weird for sure ck4829 Mar 2020 #24
Additional source, Confederate-related paraphernalia must be removed ... littlemissmartypants Feb 2020 #12
confederate items are not 'heritage'... cntrfthrs Feb 2020 #15
+1 ck4829 Mar 2020 #23

ck4829

(35,069 posts)
1. I'm surprised that's a thing that needs to be done
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 08:21 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Sat Feb 29, 2020, 07:28 AM - Edit history (1)

You serve under the American flag and the Confederacy was an enemy of the United States and peace meant it was dissolved.

Might as well have Al Qaeda or ISIS memorabilia on you.

SnowCritter

(810 posts)
14. I belong to a couple of Marine Corps veterans groups on Facebook
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 12:15 PM
Feb 2020

You should witness the wailing and gnashing of teeth that is being exhibited in those groups. There are a few liberals like me in the groups, but most are brainwashed crayon eaters.

unc70

(6,112 posts)
2. Wonder if that applies to vehicles on base?
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 08:22 PM
Feb 2020

Lots of Confederate decals and such on private vehicles that routinely come on base -- owned by service members and by civilian employees. They could enforce the rule on those receiving base license tag/decal.

dware

(12,369 posts)
17. Different times Skittles,
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 01:38 AM
Mar 2020

different times.

I think it's mostly the younger generation brainwashed by the Mango Menace, not us old timers.

Skittles

(153,150 posts)
22. yeah
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 04:37 PM
Mar 2020

I was in before Don't Ask Don't Tell - we knew may gay folk, no one made a big deal of it. Then came Reagan.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,000 posts)
5. You know what else is good enough for the Marines and should be good enough for the country?
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 09:41 PM
Feb 2020

The Metric system.

USA exceptionalism has it keeping company with only Liberia and Burma (which will be the name of Myanmar when the people wrest their country from the hands of the military).

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
9. Racism implications aside,
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 10:10 PM
Feb 2020

it's the flag of an enemy we defeated in war. It doesn't belong on a military base any more than a Nazi flag.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
19. They also named Army bases after them.
Sun Mar 1, 2020, 11:08 AM
Mar 2020

Fort Jackson, South Carolina after Stonewall Jackson. Fort Bragg, North Carolina after Braxton Bragg. Fort Lee, Virginia after Robert E Lee. Fort Polk, Louisiana after Leonidas Polk (who had been the Episcopal Bishop of New Orleans before the war). Fort Hood, Texas after John Bell Hood. Fort Benning, Georgia after Henry Benning. All Confederate generals.

littlemissmartypants

(22,632 posts)
12. Additional source, Confederate-related paraphernalia must be removed ...
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 12:33 AM
Feb 2020
Earlier this month, the Military Times released a poll showing 36% of troops who responded said they personally witnessed examples of white nationalism or ideological-driven racism in recent months. That was an increase from the year before, when only 22% reported the same, the Military Times reported.

Poll participants reported witnessing not just racist language and discriminatory attitudes, but swastikas being drawn on service members' cars, tattoos affiliated with white supremacist groups, stickers supporting the Ku Klux Klan and Nazi-style salutes between peers, according to the Military Times.


More at the link. https://www.wral.com/confederate-related-paraphernalia-must-be-removed-from-all-marine-installations-commandant-orders/18981775/

cntrfthrs

(252 posts)
15. confederate items are not 'heritage'...
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 10:05 PM
Feb 2020

they are symbols of white supremacy and racism and have no place in our multi-cultural military...

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