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moriah

(8,311 posts)
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 07:28 PM Feb 2020

A second case of coronavirus found through spread in California

Source: Washington Post

California has a second case of community transmission of the coronavirus, a 65-year-old resident of Santa Clara County who has no known history of travel to countries hit hard by the outbreak, people familiar with the case said Friday.

There is also no apparent connection between the new patient and anyone else with the disease caused by the virus, covid-19. On Wednesday, health authorities revealed the nation’s first case of community transmission, a woman in Solano County, California, about 90 miles away.

That means the virus appears to be spreading among at least two separate populations, according to people who spoke on condition of anonymity because the information has not been released publicly.

Two separate cases of community transmission likely means that there are others in the United States, said Jennifer Nuzzo, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/a-second-case-of-coronavirus-found-through-spread-in-california/2020/02/28/ae53c93a-5a77-11ea-9b35-def5a027d470_story.html



Searched for dupes before posting, if someone is faster than me and I missed the other source/post, I will delete.

A second case 90 miles away from the first one that was considered "community-acquired", and not known to be connected to it... yeah, it's spreading.
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A second case of coronavirus found through spread in California (Original Post) moriah Feb 2020 OP
90 miles from the first? Corgigal Feb 2020 #1
Great. My daughter and husband are supposed to fly to NYC from SFO (we live in San Francisco) deurbano Feb 2020 #2
She's quad? EndlessWire Feb 2020 #8
"... spoke on condition of anonymity" n/t EarthFirst Feb 2020 #3
That's why I made sure to put that in for ppl who are paywalled from WaPo. nt moriah Feb 2020 #4
Update: California has confirmed. moriah Feb 2020 #5
When the cases really start to pile up, we won't have enough hospital beds for them. SunSeeker Feb 2020 #6
Neither did China. EndlessWire Feb 2020 #10
This part of the country has a lot of interaction with China Retrograde Feb 2020 #7
this is very worrying bern2020 Feb 2020 #9
Trumps incompetence has allowed this into the country killaphill Feb 2020 #11
Trump and administration have things to answer for certainly. stopdiggin Feb 2020 #12
Welcome to DU! moriah Feb 2020 #13

deurbano

(2,895 posts)
2. Great. My daughter and husband are supposed to fly to NYC from SFO (we live in San Francisco)
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 08:04 PM
Feb 2020

on Monday. She has a domestic workers' rights meeting in Brooklyn and since she is quadriplegic, he's going as her attendant. She has had one cold after the other this year, and was in the hospital 5 months in 2014 with lymphoma. I would rather have her in one of those bubbles for the next few months, instead of getting on a plane. (Of course, she was also on BART today to Oakland and back...)

moriah

(8,311 posts)
5. Update: California has confirmed.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 09:16 PM
Feb 2020
Second U.S. coronavirus case of unknown origin confirmed in Santa Clara County

Source: Mercury News

In a troubling turn in the nation’s fight against the new virus that has killed thousands and alarmed health officials and investors around the world, a second U.S. case of unknown origin was confirmed Friday in Santa Clara County.

The case — a 65-year-old woman with pre-existing health problems, reportedly now receiving care at Mountain View’s El Camino Hospital — is the second in the Bay Area this week in which the infected person had no known exposure to the disease either through travel overseas or another infected person. She had not traveled to Solano County, home of the previous patient and site of Travis Air Force Base’s quarantine of Diamond Princess passengers.

“This new case indicates that there is evidence of community transmission but the extent is still not clear,” said Dr. Sara Cody, Health Officer for Santa Clara County and Director of the County of Santa Clara Public Health Department. “I understand this may be concerning to hear, but this is what we have been preparing for. Now we need to start taking additional actions to slow down the spread of the disease.”

The infected patient is an older adult woman with chronic health conditions who was hospitalized for a respiratory illness, county officials said. Her infectious disease physician contacted the Public Health Department to discuss the case and request testing for the novel coronavirus.

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
7. This part of the country has a lot of interaction with China
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 09:39 PM
Feb 2020

many if not most of the products developed in Silicon Valley are manufactured in China, thousands of Chinese nationals work in tech or study at the many colleges and universities and many more visit, there's a lot of tourism between the two countries - since people can be carriers without showing symptoms it's very possible that while this patient had no known interaction with someone from Hubei province (or Travis) she may have interacted with a store clerk whose cousin from Wuhan came for a visit, or her grandson may share an office with an engineer who recently got back from a business trip, or ride in the light rail next to someone with a cough or some other casual encounter.

Not panicking yet, but I don't get a warm feeling that the administration has the slightest idea of the possible scope of the problem.

A friend's son recently (like 2 weeks ago) returned from a lengthy stint at his company's factory in China. He said he got no questions or increased inspection when he got back to the US. He's probably not the only one.

 

bern2020

(23 posts)
9. this is very worrying
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 10:24 PM
Feb 2020

they won't be able to control the spread if they can't identify the source and links of the cluster

 

killaphill

(212 posts)
11. Trumps incompetence has allowed this into the country
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 10:34 PM
Feb 2020

I have no doubt that with a President Hillary Clinton we would be safe.

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
12. Trump and administration have things to answer for certainly.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 11:51 PM
Feb 2020

But the virus was going to enter this country regardless of either their competence or incompetence. That's just plain fact. Hillary Clinton might have been far more aware of the actual situation and dangers .. and adept at marshaling elements of government toward addressing those factors. But we would still not be "safe" .. (as if there were a anti-viral bubble we could retreat to). Unfortunately .. there is no such thing given the current playing field.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
13. Welcome to DU!
Sat Feb 29, 2020, 12:53 PM
Feb 2020

Every President faces unique challenges -- that's what being President is about. Being the person to face those unknown challenges, whatever they might be.

I'll be blunt: regardless of what we do or do not do, or did or did not do in the past, this virus was going to get to the US mainland and is going to spread.

The hope is that the strain of this virus that reaches the US mainland and becomes prevalent will face more of a pressure to leave its hosts relatively well than it will to reproduce as fast as it can in human cells (which causes more symptoms, and therefore more deaths in the most at-risk populations).

I wrote my Congresscritter (cuz he thinks his Ophthalmology training made him an expert in all things medical, so I figured I should write him and maybe he'd read it vs just ignore me) in support of home-based quarantine measures (aka self-quarantine) and a STRICT admonition about hygiene in quarantine facilities, when the number infected on the Diamond Princess was only at 10. And a request that any people repatriated from the DP who tested positive for the virus given priority in the best types of isolation we had available, as they were going to be the ones who essentially were the virus's petri dish.

And whether or not my advice helped or not, the symptomatic ones were sent to the Nebraska facility that had a "contacts" area quarantine for others who tested positive but were asymptomatic. That was a good idea, because the crowded conditions on the DP meant the virus likely went through multiple comparatively "easy" passage in human beings, compared to having to passed from people well enough to think they should be going out in public via chance aerosol droplets. The primary pressure through those serial transmissions was fast reproduction in human cells, not leaving the hosts well enough to go out and spread it unknowingly. That was our biggest risk for a "super-coronavirus".

The next biggest risk is if we start seeing positives in those we are keeping in any kind of physical quarantine that doesn't have the kind of protections the facility in Nebraska does. Most should have run out of their incubation period, and theoretically they should have been tested -- but tests and vaccines for novel viruses take time to manufacture and have limitations in supply and (as we've seen recently) efficacy in the field vs the designer's lab at first. I was clear that if we weren't testing those we kept in physical quarantine from Hubei province, we HAD to keep people isolated well enough from each other to not spread it within the facility.

But that's about all we can do. If we have 8000 citizens who might have been exposed through travel in one state, the absolute LAST thing we need to do is try to figure out a way to keep thousands of people isolated *together*. We do not need to recreate the military cantonments that spread the 1918 influenza out of fear of the same thing -- the cantonments, like any attempt at physically quarantining thousands of people would undoubtedly turn into, were petri dishes just like the cruise ship.

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