Israeli scientists: 'In a few weeks, we will have coronavirus vaccine

[Nonhlanhla]

Source: Jerusalem Post

Israeli scientists are on the cusp of developing the first vaccine against the novel coronavirus, according to Science and Technology Minister Ofir Akunis. If all goes as planned, the vaccine could be ready within a few weeks and available in 90 days, according to a release.

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/Israeli-scientists-In-three-weeks-we-will-have-coronavirus-vaccine-619101/amp

[CatMor]

1. That is good news...

hope it does go as planned.

[C_U_L8R]

2. It needs months of testing

[Nonhlanhla]

9. Indeed

But they are saying they've been working on a vaccine for a similar virus, and that has already been tested. I admit that I don't know enough to be able to judge their process, but I do know that vaccines need extensive testing before they can be distributed. Nevertheless, given the specifics here, maybe there's some reason for cautious hope.

[elleng]

14. Right, announcing such facts one of the reasons Dr. Fauci (etc) silenced;

can't have facts around.

[MFGsunny]

3. Did mf45 get his optimistic info (or mis-info) from Bibi about ....

.... a coronavirus vaccine being ready in a couple months or so????

hmmmm

[defacto7]

4. Manufacturing and distribution. Think about it.

[JudyM]

5. Fantastic! Here's hoping.

Israel has some great medical research.

Really excited about this

[Captain Zero]

6. They have socialized medicine right and first vaccine

American Capitalist system is in denial, but looking for investors per AZAR.

[JudyM]

7. Good point!

[question everything]

34. And private insurance side by side

And they are taxed to cover universal care.

[Goonch]

8. And peace in the Middle East

[Jirel]

10. It doesn't matter.

IF it works in testing without terrible side effects, it'll still be close to a year before it could become available.

[EarthFirst]

11. ...and? Trump says many Americans won't be able to afford it anyways... n/t

[totodeinhere]

12. I think that in an emergency the deployment of a vaccine like this

can be sped up considerably. In a real emergency the urgency of getting a vaccine on the market as soon as possible will be deemed worth the risk of conducting fewer time consuming trials. It would be a risk but perhaps a risk worth taking.

[Ghost Dog]

13. It's a government-funded socialist research outfit

that won't let me buy shares in the market to get rich, rich I tell you

So, don't vote for that.

[patphil]

15. Sounds like a hustle to me.

I worked for 35 years for a fortune 500 Pharma company.
There's no way they could do the work to create a safe and effective vaccine that quickly. I wouldn't take this vaccine; too risky.

There's no way they could assess the side effects in 90 days.
If it works, they're heros.
If it doesn't they make excuses.

In either event they achieve their goal of making a huge profit.

[Nonhlanhla]

16. You are likely correct

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I posted it without commentary for a reason. I do not necessarily believe it, but thought it interesting as a vague possibility since they say that they had been working on a similar virus, which is more than anyone else has done (as far as I know). There's a lab in Houston, apparently, that was working on a SARS vaccine, but their funding dried up once that virus petered out. All the other current vaccine candidates that I've read about seem to work with a genetic sequencing model, which is promising, but different from this process (as far as I understand). Either way, just shared because I think it's interesting and worth discussing.

[GumboYaYa]

19. They are using messenger RNA to develop the vaccines for this.

There are lots of opportunities for off target effects for this new technology. I completely agree with your post.

[beachbumbob]

21. the possibility of this virus was a lab creation with an antidote already in the works when some how

the virus was release into the Chinese market.

explains how now we hear how quick a vaccine could be ready for testing.

[Mosby]

17. Pretty ugly response on twitter.

Link to tweet

I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

[GumboYaYa]

18. I run a biotech investment fund and invest in Israeli companies.

Today I was talking to a microbiologist over there and that was what she told me. 3 months to go from chickens to human clinical trials, which means it is at best 15-18 months away from being available for use.

[Behind the Aegis]

28. You didn't even need to go to Twitter.

[beachbumbob]

20. lol, at this point who do you believe? I do know misinformation is a benefit to install calm

in the general population.

[hatrack]

22. OFFS, the Jerusalem Post?

[Nonhlanhla]

23. Yeah, OK...

but I also saw it on other sites, so they're not the only source. Not necessarily buying this, but I find all news about possible vaccines interesting.

[PerceptionManagement]

24. but they'll still be shitting on the Palestinians

while they pretend everyone who doesn't agree with Apartheid is antisemitic

[EllieBC]

40. This is going to come as a shock to you.

You don’t have to make everything about I/P.

But I won’t ruin your fun.

[MosheFeingold]

42. Apartheid?

Are you seriously suggesting Arab Israelis are subject to Apartheid restrictions?

If so, the Israelis are really bad at it, since Arab Israelis have full protection under law, are the wealthiest Arabs, per capita, in the world, as a group are the highest educated people in Israel, and, as for Nazarene Arabs, the richest demographic in all of Israel.

[Kablooie]

25. Actually that's kind of scary.

That's not enough time to test it for safety.

Vaccines in the past that weren't tested thoroughly enough sometimes had side effects worse than the disease and sometimes would make people even more susceptible to the virus.

[wiley]

35. Name one vaccine in which that is the case

That's nonsense.

[Kablooie]

37. My info came from a medical reporter for the NY Times.

On the Daily podcast.

[wiley]

38. McNeil? Kolata?

You should probably say failed experimental vaccines to avoid creating anti-vaccine hysteria. And yes, when we tested some vaccine candidates in the past sometimes the choice of adjuvant caused a very nasty response.

[Under The Radar]

26. Well, I guess they can test their cure on their Iranian neighbors.

[evertonfc]

27. as if anyone will take it

[StClone]

31. Bet we will never hear of this again

The virus mutates rapidly so one vaccine may not work.

[Demonaut]

30. don't count your chickens before they've hatched

[Eugene]

33. optimistic at best

There's an important distinction between promising treatments for the sick, which may be available in short order, and a tested, effective vaccine to protect a large, healthy population.

According to the article, scientists are developing a vaccine for infectious bronchitis in poultry, for which pre-clinical trials have been successful. COVID-19 has a similar infection mechanism, and Now that COVID-19 is sequenced, they can adjust the vaccine to the new virus.

My reading of this is that they may produce an untested vaccine shortly. If everything goes right with a heavy emphasis on lifting regulatory obstacles, they promise to have a usable vaccine.

Contrast this with the guidance from the director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research. He spelled out a safety and efficacy trial schedule that takes a year.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/26/coronavirus-vaccines-are-far-off-fda-official-says-but-drugs-to-treat-patients-could-come-sooner/

[bigworld]

36. If all goes as planned, I'm going on a date with Jennifer Aniston next Friday

...

[captain queeg]

39. The Tangerine Terror will quote them eager than the CDC

And will no doubt bad mouth the CDC.

As suggested elsewhere let’s volunteer the Trump clan to be first test subjects.

[harun]

41. There are a number of vaccines problem is they need to be tested for over a year first

And of course we don't know how effective they are until we test them out.