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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:23 PM Feb 2020

Trump looks to kill student loan forgiveness program

Source: CNBC

As student debt continues to climb, President Donald Trump on Monday released a budget for 2021 that would slash many of the programs aimed at helping borrowers.

Student loan spending would be cut by $170 billion in Trump’s plan, titled “A Budget for America’s Future.” The reductions include “sensible annual and lifetime loan limits” for graduate students and parents and the end to subsidized loans, in which the government covers the interest for borrowers who are still in school or experiencing economic hardship.

It would also reduce the number of repayment options for borrowers and nix the popular, if challenged, public service loan forgiveness program.

That program, signed into law by President George W. Bush in 2007, allows not-for-profit and government employees to have their federal student loans canceled after 10 years of on-time payments. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau estimates that up to one-quarter of American workers are eligible.

Read more: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/10/trump-proposes-end-to-student-loan-forgiveness-program.html



Dictator-wannabe Trump: the man who tries to screw over ordinary people as much as possible
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Trump looks to kill student loan forgiveness program (Original Post) steve2470 Feb 2020 OP
He's such a mean cruel man. yardwork Feb 2020 #1
For a man DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #8
The whole Republican party is that way ... aggiesal Feb 2020 #14
Trump can't get Powell to print the money fast enough bucolic_frolic Feb 2020 #2
As it is, due to a glitch, it was not operating and most eligibles denied.Getting this program emmaverybo Feb 2020 #3
It is the For Profit DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #12
I agree. After a long stint at a legitimate university and early retirement, I taught at one of emmaverybo Feb 2020 #13
As an exec in a fortune 400 corp DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #18
Sad and so greedy. At least my school did have excellent arts training. But then so did our emmaverybo Feb 2020 #20
Flash: news update on these pseudo universities DENVERPOPS Feb 2020 #36
That's exactly what happened jberryhill Feb 2020 #29
He is cruel and evil. madaboutharry Feb 2020 #4
Oh they see it, that is exactly what they like about him. tulipsandroses Feb 2020 #9
it's as if he's trying to lose renate Feb 2020 #5
I thought he was trying to lose the first time. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #6
damn, Matthew28 Feb 2020 #7
Seems like he wants us 2naSalit Feb 2020 #10
Loan forgiveness program llmart Feb 2020 #11
Statistic would probably reveal that ... aggiesal Feb 2020 #15
From personal experience, I don't think that's true. llmart Feb 2020 #25
I'm six years in the program on a student loan debt of $103,000 (phd) B Stieg Feb 2020 #21
Me too. a la izquierda Feb 2020 #22
Actually, me too! B Stieg Feb 2020 #23
Almost 6 years here - two doctorates mrs_p Feb 2020 #26
My brother (a former senior advisor in the House) reminds me... B Stieg Feb 2020 #35
Only Trump Trash gets to acquire debt whilst failing to serve a purpose and not pay for it. TheFourthMind Feb 2020 #16
The sadism has really kicked into high gear after "acquittal" PSPS Feb 2020 #17
Absolutely no Trump budget news on rightwing news sites jmbar2 Feb 2020 #19
I posted some news about Trump's budget on Facebook... mwooldri Feb 2020 #24
Interesting observation jmbar2 Feb 2020 #33
Kick and recommend for visibility of this evil bronxiteforever Feb 2020 #27
This will make professional programs mrs_p Feb 2020 #28
#crueltyIsthePoint #hashtag riversedge Feb 2020 #30
Where are all those rust belt Trumpers now?? Blue_Tires Feb 2020 #31
what I want to know is... Javaman Feb 2020 #32
Sure, we'll cancel the program Miguelito Loveless Feb 2020 #34
Could encourage brain flight.... Xolodno Feb 2020 #37
Shouldn't we be able to afford this program since we have, you know, a "strong economy"? ck4829 Feb 2020 #38

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
14. The whole Republican party is that way ...
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:35 PM
Feb 2020

GOP = Greedy One Percent.

They have to find ways to pay for the Billionaire's tax cut!!!

bucolic_frolic

(43,131 posts)
2. Trump can't get Powell to print the money fast enough
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:42 PM
Feb 2020

but he's taking it from students and borrowers. That means one thing: another giant tax cut for the wealthy!

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
3. As it is, due to a glitch, it was not operating and most eligibles denied.Getting this program
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:43 PM
Feb 2020

up and running and expanding on it, among other doable ways to alleviate student debt, should be
appealing to voters even if wiping the slate for all with a 50,000 giveaway might not be.

Also, we need to focus on for-profit schools. These expensive schools produce heavily indebted students that they heavily recruit who go on to make entry level salaries. Should cap loan amounts. One of the big chains, Art Institutes, is owned by Goldman-Sachs. What a racket!

While we talk mainly about young people’s debt, let’s remember many senior adults carry student debt from going back to school. They can have, and do have, their social security garnisheed.





DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
12. It is the For Profit
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:46 PM
Feb 2020

pseudo schools that are the main criminals here. Their "courses" and "degrees" are totally worthless and they charged the students a prohibitive amount, got the government to buy their loans to these students and walked off rich and without being prosecuted for their scams.......

Since the U.S. gov't politicians endorsed this scam, the U.S. Gov't should forgive all loans by these corrupt fraudulent Pseudo Schools perpetrated...........

These schools are still operating and thriving, without any government intervention, and their ads can be seen every day on TV and Cable channels all the time.

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
13. I agree. After a long stint at a legitimate university and early retirement, I taught at one of
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:07 PM
Feb 2020

these, bought later by Goldman Sachs. Knew nothing about for profit rip offs at the time. Also had a few Devry classes.

The students borrow huge amounts and still have to hold jobs to make it through. Salaries ridiculously low for teachers so young and experienced educators. GE a farce. Unprepared administrators.
Don’t spend enough on students, and though some do get jobs, not ones that will ever catch up to their debt.

I agree that these loans should be drastically alleviated or cancelled.

Last I heard my school was recruiting from returning vets.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
18. As an exec in a fortune 400 corp
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:23 AM
Feb 2020

I would approve the final applications for a position I was trying to fill. HR would screen the applicants down to 20 or so.
Every app that had an MBA from "............." (one of the biggest in the country), I would throw in the trash. At that time, everyone who wanted to buy an MBA for their Resume went to that school, at least in that geographical area.........
I guess they were brainwashed by ".............." that someone looking to hire them wouldn't know their degree was a farce.......

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
20. Sad and so greedy. At least my school did have excellent arts training. But then so did our
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:50 AM
Feb 2020

local community college, now free. The first-hand experience you relate really demonstrates the wickedness and lack of any responsibility these schools showed. Brain-washing it was.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
36. Flash: news update on these pseudo universities
Wed Feb 12, 2020, 11:36 AM
Feb 2020

Did you see where Trump had his rally when he invaded New Hampshire for a rally the day of the Democrat's primary? Which by the way, he did to F up things in NH the day of the Primary and steal the thunder of the NH primary.

Trump's chosen location, wait for it......

SOUTHERN NEW HAMPSHIRE UNIVERSITY..............I laughed and just shook my head with seeing that......"Perfect" as Trump would proclaim........

The american taxpayers are paying for his continuous rallies, using Air Force One and wearing his Secret Service Detail into the ground.
You can't imagine the TRUE costs of his weekly rally junkets, flitting about like a rock concert tour from city to city. And the cities are left with a huge bill for their expenses for his visits. They send bills and the Republican party throws them in the trash.

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
4. He is cruel and evil.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:48 PM
Feb 2020

Someone please tell me how over 40% of Americans fail to see the malignancy that runs in his veins.

tulipsandroses

(5,123 posts)
9. Oh they see it, that is exactly what they like about him.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:42 PM
Feb 2020

They are even willing to give up democracy and turn this nation into an autocracy if it means that they get to spew their hate and resentment at will. That to them is more important than anything else. Its all worth it to be able to control women's autonomy, put minorities back in their place, demonize immigrants, openly discriminate against LGBTQ people. Oh they see the malignancy, they easily recognize it because it runs through their own veins.

Some probably see loan forgiveness as socialism for the "elites". Thats what the Republican Party has gotten excellent at, convincing their followers to vote against their own interest and having them believe its for their own good.

TwilightZone

(25,467 posts)
6. I thought he was trying to lose the first time.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:05 PM
Feb 2020

I agree that it seems he's doing the same this time.

He can lose, however. We proved in 2018 that overwhelming numbers can overcome the GOP nonsense. We need to do the same in 2020.

Matthew28

(1,797 posts)
7. damn,
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:16 PM
Feb 2020

Do I wish our candidates would talk about stuff like this. We'd be blowing trump out of the water if they would along with how he wants to gut our safetynet including ssi.

2naSalit

(86,550 posts)
10. Seems like he wants us
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:44 PM
Feb 2020

and is baiting us into the streets so he can declare some kind of emergency or sometime. We need to be in the streets at some point. I don't see this getting better before it gets worse. He's so vindictive.

I wish an alien(extraterrestrial) abductor would show up and help us out of our misery.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
11. Loan forgiveness program
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 10:46 PM
Feb 2020

I worked at a university and administered the loan forgiveness program for faculty. 2018 was the first year employees were eligible to begin having their loans forgiven. The eligible employees did everything right in making sure they along with me kept accurate records, made ten years of payments on time and were all looking forward to having them forgiven. Since I am retired, I will never get to hear all the complaints that are going to arise. Before I left, I gave them a heads up that I had heard Trump was going to eliminate the program. I can only imagine the anger/betrayal they must feel.

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
15. Statistic would probably reveal that ...
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:41 PM
Feb 2020

50% of the people you dealt with voted for Pendejo45.
Those are the people I want to see the anger/betrayal that they'll feel.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
25. From personal experience, I don't think that's true.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:48 AM
Feb 2020

The people I dealt with for my particular job were university professors. I would say the majority of the people I came in contact with were definitely liberal people and more than likely Democrats, but I have no way of knowing that obviously. I would have many conversations with them since I dealt with them quite often and sometimes they would opening discuss their politics or feelings about issues.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
21. I'm six years in the program on a student loan debt of $103,000 (phd)
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 03:56 AM
Feb 2020

This will ruin my old(er) age.
Muther...

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
22. Me too.
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:25 AM
Feb 2020

Though I intend to get a job in Europe that pays so poorly I won’t have to pay anything back and I’ll just die there.
Or, if i become a European citizen, I can have it discharged.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
23. Actually, me too!
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 05:32 AM
Feb 2020

My dad was naturalized after I was born, so I inherit his Italian citizenship.
And as a teacher, I'm confident I will find such a low-paying job. Sheesh.

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
26. Almost 6 years here - two doctorates
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:56 AM
Feb 2020

Earning much lower than I would in private sector. Hoping for the best, preparing for the worst. At least the debt will die with me.

ETA For now

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
35. My brother (a former senior advisor in the House) reminds me...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:22 PM
Feb 2020

that the dems have the house and won't vote to approve the ridiculous 2021 budget wherein the PSLF is killed.
I only hope he's right! tRump could always resort to an Executive Order.

TheFourthMind

(343 posts)
16. Only Trump Trash gets to acquire debt whilst failing to serve a purpose and not pay for it.
Mon Feb 10, 2020, 11:59 PM
Feb 2020

Fuck the lot of them.

PSPS

(13,591 posts)
17. The sadism has really kicked into high gear after "acquittal"
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:20 AM
Feb 2020

I guess he "learned his lesson," right Sue?

jmbar2

(4,874 posts)
19. Absolutely no Trump budget news on rightwing news sites
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 02:14 AM
Feb 2020

Crickets...

They'll never know what hit them.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
24. I posted some news about Trump's budget on Facebook...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 08:47 AM
Feb 2020

Stuff I found on Fox Business - though it was from 2019. My pet Trump supporter immediately posted "Fake News" - and it got into a ding dong with him throwing the "libtard" label at me. All he needed to do was be civil and say "you posted news from last year" and that would have been sufficient. However I appear learning that Trump's budget - albeit last year's one - included cuts to Medicare and Social Security triggered him.

Snoozed the dude for 30 days for my sanity.

jmbar2

(4,874 posts)
33. Interesting observation
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 11:09 AM
Feb 2020

Sounds like cognitive dissonance - cannot handle the truth. Good on you for injecting truth where it hurts. Keep it up!

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
28. This will make professional programs
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 09:57 AM
Feb 2020

Be only for the rich. Regular and poor folks won’t be doctors, veterinarians, dentists, scientists, lawyers, etc.

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
32. what I want to know is...
Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:41 AM
Feb 2020

how is this piece of shit laundering all this money that he's "saving" into his own pockets.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
37. Could encourage brain flight....
Thu Feb 13, 2020, 02:32 AM
Feb 2020

...encourages graduates to seek employment over seas and ignore the debt. Granted they give up their Social Security...but if they had none to begin with as just entering the job market....well.

Eventually, the program, instead of making money for the government....starts losing it. And, the economy suffers as there are less qualified people out there.

And if some Trump Humper thinks they would get the jobs due to the brain flight....well, they just proved why they aren't qualified. The company may just up and move its main operations abroad. Imagine if Disney moved all its main corporate management to a site next to Disneyland Paris and kept a rotating skeleton crew in Burbank, CA to maintain its "tradition". Hiring the grads out of So Cal, then relocating them with special permission to the EU...of course, there would be a limit...and they would have to higher quite a bit from the EU.

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