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brooklynite

(93,851 posts)
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:28 AM Feb 2020

DHS blocks New Yorkers from enrolling in 'trusted traveler' programs over sanctuary law

Source: Politico

DHS will no longer let New Yorkers enroll in several programs intended to expedite international travel, in response to a recently-enacted state "sanctuary" law which limits DHS' access to state driver's license records.

The unprecedented suspension, which will shutter several programs that allow people to breeze through security lines in exchange for having their information pre-vetted, comes a day after President Donald Trump used his State of the Union address in part to blast sanctuary cities, saying "there are many cities in America where radical politicians have chosen to provide sanctuary for these criminal illegal aliens," and suggesting that localities that block the release of information allow "dangerous criminal aliens to prey upon the public, instead of handing them over to ICE to be safely removed."

In a letter to New York state's Department of Motor Vehicles, which was first reported by Fox News, acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf wrote that because of a state law signed in June preventing DMV officials from giving information to ICE and CBP, New York residents will be prohibited from enrolling in DHS programs including Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI and FAST. The letter does not refer to TSA's PreCheck program.

The first three are CBP programs which help expedite security for travelers upon arrival to the U.S., and FAST is a commercial clearance program for low-risk shipments.

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/05/dhs-blocks-new-yorkers-from-enrolling-in-trusted-traveler-programs-over-sanctuary-law-111297



My current Global Entry/PreCheck card expires in 2022.
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DHS blocks New Yorkers from enrolling in 'trusted traveler' programs over sanctuary law (Original Post) brooklynite Feb 2020 OP
Guess I'm lucky I just renewed last fall. dhol82 Feb 2020 #1
I submitted LittleGirl Feb 2020 #7
I thought my problem was the laces I had been dhol82 Feb 2020 #22
Pure Trump vindictiveness. Lonestarblue Feb 2020 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author NYC Liberal Feb 2020 #12
+1 treestar Feb 2020 #26
There really is no end to Republicans fucking over the country Zorro Feb 2020 #3
Class-based security is BS anyway Blues Heron Feb 2020 #4
How is this "class-based"? brooklynite Feb 2020 #8
are you joking? Blues Heron Feb 2020 #9
This tells me you don't know what PreCheck is... brooklynite Feb 2020 #10
Yes I'm obviously not in the "protected" class lol Blues Heron Feb 2020 #11
Race-based security is even worse but there are passionate supporters even on DU IronLionZion Feb 2020 #16
Isn't it funny how Elysium offers such nice perks for people who don't actually need it? lostnfound Feb 2020 #19
And people like me are consistently selected for secondary security screening IronLionZion Feb 2020 #20
Dunno, if you can afford international travel treestar Feb 2020 #27
I have it, but agree with you completely lostnfound Feb 2020 #18
You should ask for the authentic "brown traveler experience" for free IronLionZion Feb 2020 #21
I believe you but they wouldn't give it to me if I asked nt lostnfound Feb 2020 #25
I agree, background checks treestar Feb 2020 #28
KFC and McDonalds finish this fucker off please!!! Lucky Luciano Feb 2020 #5
Retribution...plain and simple....it's coming ashredux Feb 2020 #6
I live in a Sanctuary state angrychair Feb 2020 #13
Nothing to do with security. They are punishing a blue state IronLionZion Feb 2020 #14
"They are punishing a blue state" mitch96 Feb 2020 #23
He knows he will never win NY treestar Feb 2020 #29
he does this to please his base. mitch96 Feb 2020 #30
What's next.... yellow stars???? mitch96 Feb 2020 #15
For those currently in detonate at the border....they will be "brown " ashredux Feb 2020 #17
Stand Tall New Yorkers stand tall. kyburbonkid Feb 2020 #24

dhol82

(9,351 posts)
1. Guess I'm lucky I just renewed last fall.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:31 AM
Feb 2020

It was a pain in the neck to do and I was held up about ten months before they finally gave the ok.

LittleGirl

(8,261 posts)
7. I submitted
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:06 AM
Feb 2020

my renewal last year, 9 months in advance and they didn't complete it until a month after it expired.
They said the bottleneck was the government shutdown in 2018!

dhol82

(9,351 posts)
22. I thought my problem was the laces I had been
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 01:44 PM
Feb 2020

I went to as many exotic places as I could ding the previous five years. Pakistan, Iran, the five Stans along with the usual places in the Far East, Africa and Europe. Just trying to get to places before my body gives out. Figured that that had flagged my application.
Friend of mine applied a few weeks after I and had hers back within a month.

Lonestarblue

(9,880 posts)
2. Pure Trump vindictiveness.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:35 AM
Feb 2020

Global Entry requires a US passport. Illegal immigrants do not have a US passport, so claims that DHS can’t do its job are bogus. I don’t know the other programs listed, but I would think they also require a valid passport. My Global Entry expires next year so I'm hoping we have a Democrat as president and we can return some sanity to government operations like this.

Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #2)

Blues Heron

(5,898 posts)
4. Class-based security is BS anyway
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 09:58 AM
Feb 2020

Still, this is going to wake up a LOT of people. Are we entering a new, more active phase of Trumpzism? Post acquital?

Blues Heron

(5,898 posts)
9. are you joking?
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:26 AM
Feb 2020

your either in the pre-checked, extra fee-based class or you're not, you're just a shmoe who's not in the program,take off your shoes and step aside for the treatment

brooklynite

(93,851 posts)
10. This tells me you don't know what PreCheck is...
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:42 AM
Feb 2020

It has nothing to do with Airline priority travel classes. PreCheck is a Government "trusted traveler" program, which means that the traveler has gone through a background check by DHS to determine that they can be trusted not to wear explosive shoes and hide illegal items in their toiletries bag. There's an $85 processing fee to cover the background check and the card is good for five years ($17/year); far less than the cost of obtaining a Passport.

Blues Heron

(5,898 posts)
11. Yes I'm obviously not in the "protected" class lol
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 10:50 AM
Feb 2020

I despise the two tier system we've concocted here for no particular reason. What happened to equality under the law?

IronLionZion

(45,256 posts)
16. Race-based security is even worse but there are passionate supporters even on DU
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:18 AM
Feb 2020

I get what you're saying, that it costs money to get these background check programs, but try experiencing what brown people go through. There's no other way to understand it.

My class-based metal credit card covers 100% of the cost. There are other class-based associations and discounts available for those who struggle to pay the $100 global entry or $85 precheck. International travel is a frequent issue for immigrant families with relatives overseas. Business travelers and vacationers could probably afford it.

Maybe one of our socialist candidates can propose a way to cover the costs for those who can't afford it.

lostnfound

(16,138 posts)
19. Isn't it funny how Elysium offers such nice perks for people who don't actually need it?
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:06 PM
Feb 2020

Free food at conferences. Free fishing trips for executives. Cadillac health care for the c-suite.

Meanwhile, pencils and paper are rationed in schools, and poor neighborhoods are dodging bullets on their walk to the convenience store grocer where they pay three times as much as suburban costsco shoppers, after getting their payday loans.

The people making a lot of the stuff we buy are sick and suffering in China, invisible and not the subject of much public empathy. Dystopia-R-Us.

IronLionZion

(45,256 posts)
20. And people like me are consistently selected for secondary security screening
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:20 PM
Feb 2020

blocked out from "US Citizen only" jobs and told that I'm stealing jobs from Americans.

It's slightly less invisible to me since I've been all over China and seen the children (whole families including grandparents and young kids) making stuff that Americans like to buy. A lot of DUers think those "sick and suffering" Chinese are stealing jobs away from American workers. There is a lot of that, and there is a lot of exploitation of starving people who don't mind a complete lack of safety regulations, but people like money. And rich people like getting richer.

Somewhere, someone, somehow thinks I'm the problem not them. And vice versa.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
27. Dunno, if you can afford international travel
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:39 PM
Feb 2020

are those amounts going to be prohibitive?

I haven't bothered, don't travel internationally enough, so I'll just take off my shoes.

lostnfound

(16,138 posts)
18. I have it, but agree with you completely
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:00 PM
Feb 2020

It’s unAmerican to let the government give shorter waiting times to people who have an extra $100 etc, at the expense of those who don’t.

But I fly a lot. So I’m a hypocrite.

IronLionZion

(45,256 posts)
21. You should ask for the authentic "brown traveler experience" for free
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 12:36 PM
Feb 2020

just once for you to see what it's like. It's not about shorter waiting times.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
28. I agree, background checks
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:40 PM
Feb 2020

are more likely to hinder, or make it more work to get, the trusted status. If you have an arrest and the charges were dismissed, it would be no surprise that you'd have to provide a certified copy of the court judgment.

angrychair

(8,593 posts)
13. I live in a Sanctuary state
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:07 AM
Feb 2020

Washington is a sanctuary state, I think California and Oregon is too.

So far nothing. I would not think you can selectively do actions like this.

This will get thrown out in court.

IronLionZion

(45,256 posts)
14. Nothing to do with security. They are punishing a blue state
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 11:07 AM
Feb 2020

They could easily exchange information relevant only to trusted traveler programs. They're choosing to be evil hoping enough US citizens, especially white ones, will buckle under pressure.

As soon as that orange pile of toxic waste took office my Mom made sure we all enrolled in global entry and TSA precheck knowing fully well his supporters will say we're "not American" since we're brown. Mine expires in 2021 and I hope we have a very different president in the white house then.

mitch96

(13,817 posts)
23. "They are punishing a blue state"
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 02:33 PM
Feb 2020

Agree... It will be interesting to see what this administration does to California...
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treestar

(82,383 posts)
29. He knows he will never win NY
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 01:42 PM
Feb 2020

so he does this to please his base.

Though a lot of his base may not know anything about this program. But it'll sound good to them that NYers are getting punished.

mitch96

(13,817 posts)
30. he does this to please his base.
Sat Feb 8, 2020, 02:39 PM
Feb 2020

The village people come to mind....
Macho,macho, macho man...... I wanna be a macho man....... da dum... dum..
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