Romney says he will vote to convict Trump
Source: CNN
Sen. Mitt Romney, a Republican from Utah, said he will vote to convict in the impeachment of President Trump.
Romney said Trump is "guilty of an appalling abuse of public trust."
He said what Trump did "was a flagrant assault on our electoral rights, our national security, and our fundamental values."
Romney added: "Corrupting an election to keep oneself in office is perhaps the most abusive and destructive violation of one's oath of office that I can imagine."
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-trial-02-05-20/
There will be updates, I'm sure. Bottom line: ROMNEY IS VOTING TO CONVICT!
Romney's tweet (his speech starts at about 12:30):
Link to tweet
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)"were I to ignore the evidence that has been presented... it would expose my character to history's rebuke."
He is talking a lot about religious conviction and morality.
Now talking about the necessity of hearing from Bolton, which didn't happen.
"My vote is an act of conviction..."
"I will tell my children that I did my duty to the best of my ability..."
Now CNN's Brooke Baldwin reacting. She is awestruck.
George II
(67,782 posts)I think a lot more of him now.
PatSeg
(47,370 posts)was he was so wishy-washy and would say whatever he thought people wanted to hear. This, however, is a wonderful surprise. I'll give him credit where it is due. Good for him.
DENVERPOPS
(8,806 posts)what the majority of Americans want to hear with his vote........
PatSeg
(47,370 posts)how to play the long game, though I also think he believed everything he said.
johnnyfins
(816 posts)PatSeg
(47,370 posts)republican senators though.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)So I don't see where you get this "it's easy to do..." stuff.
Cha
(297,123 posts)running against President Obama..
Steve Benen kept volumes and volumes of the Lies. "Please Proceed Senator"..
It's good to see a repub going against trump, tho.
PatSeg
(47,370 posts)that he came across as desperate, doing and saying anything that he thought might get him there. That said, I believe he was sincere on the floor yesterday and will give him credit for doing the right thing. I still wouldn't want to see him as president though.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)WOW
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)That felt like history happening.
MFGsunny
(2,356 posts)onecent
(6,096 posts)and that is illegal.....EVERYTHING HE TOUCHES TURNED TO SHIT....And why do we need billions of dollars.
NOBODY ever got near a billion dollars.....IS HE TAKING THE MONEY????
c_junk
(46 posts)I think he's fundamentally flawed.
Corporations are people?! I disagree with that most vehemently. IMO they are legal constructs for an economic purpose that need rules (laws) to create societal benefit from the license they've been granted.
His father was a civil rights supporter, Mitt not so much...
His father returned money when he thought he was paid too much, Mitt founded the vulture firm Bain Capital, and gutted multiple firms.
Binders full of women, from a guy whose grandfather was a polygamist?
Someone who's father was born in Mexico is supporting a border wall?
Nitram
(22,781 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,100 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,806 posts)Romney's comments will go down in history. He knew the trashing he is going to taken by Trump, Trump's minions,
Trump's Republican Senators. He didn't care and I bet he left many Senators behind the scenes saying they wish they had the courage to do the same thing......It took SUPREME strength to do what Romney did and he will be remembered in history for his statement, far more than ANYTHING that Trump spews out of his anus shaped mouth.......
WASF
Just wait for what's coming now that Trump and his crowd feel emboldened. His first tyrannical actions were taken mere hours after his travesty acquittal. Barr's command about any further investigations being personally approved by him, classifying as Secret ALL immigration and naturalization matters, etc etc etc. ANYONE who was not 100% with Trump had better duck and cover, and have eyes in the back of their heads. Trump has been making a black list and he will go to ANY end to screw you to the wall and destroy you. A back handed threat came out of the White house this afternoon directed at Adam Schiff.
WASF
it is gonna get really really really shitty between now and the election, they won't wait or hold back now. They have already started just hours after the vote. In a way, I don't want to witness November 3rd or the next day in our nation. It makes no difference if he Wins or Loses.......There are already Harbingers of the ugliness that quite probably will take place by his voters. Katie Bar the Door.
SWBTATTReg
(22,100 posts)more harm will be forever stained with the stench of corruption and filth.
I'm sick and tired of hearing their lame a&& excuses that republicans keep sprouting to justify ignoring the clear and present evidence in front of everyone's faces, in allowing this presidential piece of filth and garbage with his ignorant attitude, and behavior to continue.
I'm surprised that they continued to let him stay in office, being that they were already threatened once (heads on a pike) remark from rump already, and frankly, why not simply send rump away, and let Pence do their bidding? With only a couple of defect votes, rump would be gone, and Pence would only be in office until early next year.
I suspect strongly that with the elections, rump is going to forget and do something stupid (well, do some more stupid stuff on top of what he has done) that will definitely bounce back on him and these corrupt Senators. In a way, with Barr being a roadblock into any future actions by the DOJ and declaring all immigration and naturalization matters secret, is indeed a harbinger of bad things to come. The SS comes to mind when I hear this. Will normal Americans be thrown into concentration camps or jail because their status is now open to question?
They have gave our democratic candidates hundreds of $millions of dollars in free advertising, for I'm thinking that a lot of people sitting on the sidelines thus, now truly and surely sees how corrupt rump and the House/Senate republicans are, in letting rump off the hook and get by with his crimes (clearly backed up by witnesses and documentation).
With threatening Adam S., I also got a feeling that the House of Representatives will not hesitate to issue another impeachment process, or that they'll be more likely to sit on stuff that the Senate and WH will want, but will no longer get from the House (which the House of Rep should do (sit on). Neither of them have shown any decency in acting along w/ democrats in getting anything done (their way or the highway).
I'm seriously thinking about donating to the ACLU. I will, but how much is still up in the air.
Take care!
importDavid
(219 posts)19 more...
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)This doesn't leave much room for any Dems to bow down to President Turd. They have to stand up.
yodermon
(6,143 posts)rickyhall
(4,889 posts)cilla4progress
(24,725 posts)Thanks, Mittens! Sent his website a thank you note.
lastlib
(23,204 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)still_one
(92,116 posts)smb
(3,471 posts)tinrobot
(10,893 posts)still_one
(92,116 posts)Cosmocat
(14,562 posts)He has some flex with Utah - his father, they are a little different brand of republicans. They won't out and out go against the jackass, but I do think they are more put off by how immoral and bold faced jackassish he is.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)I guarantee that they respect Mitt a thousand times more than they care for President Pussygrabber.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)His speech was pretty good. I hope it influences others.
George II
(67,782 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,143 posts)credit for. More back bone too.
jmbar2
(4,871 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,123 posts)I never agreed with him on the environment for example. But well played, Mitt, a salute to you!
Perhaps he smells opportunity. This makes him the leader, hands-down, of the post-Trump Republican Party Shambles and Scrum.
But it is also a nod to the Constitution, and the way he phrased it, democracy especially, and it will begin the blunting of partisan rancor and veneration of lawlessness that McConnell's stonewalling has wrought.
I think it can be said also that Mormons are also known for their adherence to rules and law, if mistrust of the federal government. They are great business managers. J. Willard Marriot for example, from whom Willard Mitt Romney got his first name. Fiduciary rules very much followed.
Bayard
(22,048 posts)Will others follow him, or is he the only rethug?
smb
(3,471 posts)...let the phrase "BIPARTISAN support for removal" echo through the land and through Napoleon Boneyspurs' empty head.
George II
(67,782 posts)marble falls
(57,063 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,379 posts)PunkinPi
(4,875 posts)Link to tweet
Jirel
(2,017 posts)Too little too late, but thanks.
still_one
(92,116 posts)republican
PatSeg
(47,370 posts)who thinks there are things more important than one's political career.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)kudos to him but make no mistake. He is not up for reelection for a few years. He made a calculated move that this will eventually pay off. And he is 100% right.
he knows how to play the long game better than his republican colleagues.
radical noodle
(8,000 posts)His vote will go down in history and he knows that. It will be his only reward because they will crucify him if they can.
Traildogbob
(8,709 posts)Never a fan but right now he gets my respect. His biggest issue, was allowing GOP to assign Paul Ryan to his ticket. Equally as dumb as Sarah Palin choice for VP. Maybe he is saddling up the Morman White Horse. Could not be worse.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)In the future he has to convict . No one will vote for someone refusing to convict a criminal, and they are soft on crime, when they do it. Rubio will be held accountable, and all others, and will look badly as trump and others are exposed for crimes. They refuse they become co-conspirators and in legal jeopardy then, also for obstructing , and aiding and abetting (Putin), working for a foreign government without registering, and I'm sure many more.
Mike Nelson
(9,951 posts)... he didn't just vote... he explained the vote quite starkly. I don't agree with Mitt on much, but I was impressed with his honest appraisal of the disgraceful President.
Firestorm49
(4,030 posts)I dont trust him any more then Moscow Mitch.
in2herbs
(2,945 posts)he can now educate (lecture) any Rs in Utah who expect to shame him for his vote. Only good can come of this.
ZenDem
(442 posts)I'm guessing this might be part 'patriotism' and a bigger part of 'maybe I can still run for President'.
Either way...holy shit. This is freaking awesome!!!
Javaman
(62,515 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,342 posts)the differences in their facial expressions are as night and day.
denem
(11,045 posts)Whatta pic!
The lighting, the expressions ... it looks like a deal with a crossroads demon.
Mersky
(4,980 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)jb5150
(1,178 posts)if he's about to switch parties, or possible retire.
BluNoMatterHu
(31 posts)Senator Romney will still be a senator after November and many of them wont.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,379 posts)This is a thing the likes of which have never been seen before.
ShockinglyIndecorousHat Retweeted
Mitt Romney is the first Senator in American history to vote to impeach a president of his own party.
Link to tweet
Ponietz
(2,957 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)Good for you.
hibbing
(10,095 posts)The great brain trust that is Hannity was already calling him a RINO even before this vote.
Peace
Marcuse
(7,475 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)not to dig up dirt even. But to get an enemy of our enemy to manufacture dirt for you personally ???
Wow bad or not bad? If it takes more than a nanosecond you're a schmuck.
George II
(67,782 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)A political ploy. Don't care today. Bravo Romney. Now if any Dem votes to acquit, may the rules be waived.
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)Trump is an aberration and his madness is unsustainable for The Republican Party.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)Mittens got class - my hats off to him.
kydemo
(34 posts)I must admit that I teared up while he was speaking. I am by nature a person who thinks there is decency in others. The Trump presidency and the modern Republican party have shaken that belief. I have been despondent especially during the impeachment hearings to see that there had been no decent, honorable and truthful Republicans. It began to make me even more cynical. I am happy to know that at least one Republican is saying out loud the truth. One. Opens the door to others, maybe not Senators. Thank you, Sen. Romney.
SpankMe
(2,957 posts)And, B. He could do anything and get re-elected in Utah. So, he'd be safe if he did vote to convict.
PSPS
(13,588 posts)snort
(2,334 posts)90-percent
(6,829 posts)In 1968 Mitt's dad George, the Governor of michigan at the time, visited Viet Nam and declared the war an unwinnable waste. Even though it really hurt his chances for the Presidential nom, he did the right thing and deserves credit. Same with mitt here, because, as Biil Murray said about Trump in Caddyshack; "He's vengeful".* (start the vid at 1:20)
-90% jimmy
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Wabbajack_
(1,300 posts)Symbolic.
But we still need to win in November. This orange fuck is not leaving office today.
90-percent
(6,829 posts)Dr. Evil vengance Trump is free to apply to Mitt. Maybe solitary in Guantanemo? There is nobody in our gov't left with the power to stop such things any more, now that the U.S.A. is a fascist dictatorship.
-90% Jimmy
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)denbot
(9,899 posts)I still dont like him, or his politics, but Bravo Zulu Senator Romney.