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riversedge

(70,185 posts)
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:05 PM Feb 2020

'He misled everyone!' Israeli leader fumes at Jared Kushner as Trump's 'peace plan' spirals down the

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‘He misled everyone!’ Israeli leader fumes at Jared Kushner as Trump’s ‘peace plan’ spirals down the drain

Published 4 mins ago on February 4, 2020


Trump son-in-law Jared Kushner is taking heat from key allies of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as the “peace plan” he helped design spirals further down the drain.

While the plan had previously been praised by the Israeli government even as it was widely panned by neighboring Arab governments, the Washington Post reports that Yesha Council Chairman David Elhayani is furious about the White House’s efforts to discourage Netanyahu from immediately annexing large portions of the West Bank from the Palestinians.
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“Kushner took a knife and put it in Netanyahu’s back,” Elhayani tells the Washington Post. “Kushner misled the prime minister. He misled everybody. He knew for a long time that Netanyahu wanted to declare sovereignty over the Jordan Valley and northern Dead Sea — he said it many times over the last year. Gentlemen just don’t act this way.”.....................................

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'He misled everyone!' Israeli leader fumes at Jared Kushner as Trump's 'peace plan' spirals down the (Original Post) riversedge Feb 2020 OP
What did they expect from a real estate "expert" and money launderer? fleur-de-lisa Feb 2020 #1
The one who sells intel to the Saudis and you 2naSalit Feb 2020 #32
So Wait. jayfish Feb 2020 #2
Kinda' seems that way. groundloop Feb 2020 #4
THIS Mike 03 Feb 2020 #28
Apparently....nt 2naSalit Feb 2020 #33
That is what it looks like Tweedy Feb 2020 #35
"Gentlemen"????? LakeArenal Feb 2020 #3
Indeed.??? żż??? Ghost Dog Feb 2020 #19
Right? My question is, where? 2naSalit Feb 2020 #34
no wonder trump loves him IcyPeas Feb 2020 #5
Can you say: hlthe2b Feb 2020 #6
The proposal may as well be a blank page. AtheistCrusader Feb 2020 #42
Anyone closely connected to Trump is a liar and a bullshitter. Good luck getting your cash back Autumn Feb 2020 #7
Yep... 30M big ones. Zoonart Feb 2020 #9
Of course he did. He's an idiot who was just pulling stuff out of his ass. The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2020 #8
He also doesn't know what he's doing .. CatMor Feb 2020 #10
He's in over his head like an anvil in the Marianas Trench hatrack Feb 2020 #24
LOL! fleur-de-lisa Feb 2020 #45
So, basically, they're unhappy because the Palestinians didn't get screwed enough? (nt) scarletwoman Feb 2020 #11
Is it possible that even Kushner couldn't stomach such a naked land-grab by Bibi's cohorts? alwaysinasnit Feb 2020 #12
No!!! atreides1 Feb 2020 #54
Nah. I never really believed a leopard could change it's spots. alwaysinasnit Feb 2020 #55
this is being depicted as the living ken doll stabbing yahoo in the back. Javaman Feb 2020 #13
They knew he was a snake.... nt Grasswire2 Feb 2020 #14
If only he'd read another book. marble falls Feb 2020 #15
Another? ProfessorGAC Feb 2020 #52
I don't believe it but Trumpelinski claimed that Jared had the moxey to resolve the ... marble falls Feb 2020 #53
I'll defer to our Israeli experts, but this sounds like what he SHOULD have done? oldsoftie Feb 2020 #16
The guy quoted in the OP is on the far right of Israeli politics. former9thward Feb 2020 #27
Jared is a true Trump now. Maybe not by blood originally but he is a full-fledged Trump. keithbvadu2 Feb 2020 #17
Having come from a tRump advisor what would we expect? Clearly the last paragraph say it all. LIES usaf-vet Feb 2020 #18
Who could have known? Marcuse Feb 2020 #20
News flash: Jarvanka is not a diplomat. He's alienated both sides now. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2020 #21
Why even trust Kushner in the first place? sakabatou Feb 2020 #22
What. The. Fuck. Did. You. Expect. hatrack Feb 2020 #23
Picked by a Stable Genius... dchill Feb 2020 #41
"Israeli leader"??? former9thward Feb 2020 #25
Every time I see Jared Kushner's face, I hear Gilbert Gottfried's voice. iscooterliberally Feb 2020 #26
I was all a big show for Trump to act like he was bringing peace, Ohioboy Feb 2020 #29
one despicable person furious with another despicable person. what to do? Kurt V. Feb 2020 #30
No honor among thieves. muntrv Feb 2020 #31
"Trump's 'peace plan' spirals down the drain " volstork Feb 2020 #36
Putin annexes Crimea, USA upset. Israel annexes the West Bank. USA is cool with that TeamPooka Feb 2020 #37
One born every minute sarge43 Feb 2020 #38
I'm shocked that the criminal family Satan 666 spawn has put poison pills in a peace plan. Shocked! Evolve Dammit Feb 2020 #39
Rank amateurs. B Stieg Feb 2020 #40
Arabs and Israelis are now learning what intelligent Americans have known for years: The Trump-Kus riversedge Feb 2020 #43
Will this throw a monkey wrench into Trump's coveted Nobel Peace Prize? NBachers Feb 2020 #44
Is there an authoritative map of what Kushner proposed? muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #46
Looks like it was drawn by the guy Mr.Bill Feb 2020 #47
There needs to be serious research into who the land actually belongs to, who was there first. not_the_one Feb 2020 #48
Jews are indigenous to Israel and the West Bank Mosby Feb 2020 #56
Kicking for visibility. dchill Feb 2020 #49
So much for his father in-law's Nobel prize Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2020 #50
Drama to scare the Palestinians into signing. I don't buy the act. applegrove Feb 2020 #51
It wasn't even that. Mosby Feb 2020 #58
STumpy and its family clan... Maxheader Feb 2020 #57
What did they expect from an entitled, amateurish, inept little dilettante from smirkymonkey Feb 2020 #59

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
1. What did they expect from a real estate "expert" and money launderer?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:09 PM
Feb 2020

He is a fraud, just like his father and his father-in-law.

Tweedy

(628 posts)
35. That is what it looks like
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:55 PM
Feb 2020

Neither the president, nor any of his cronies, including his son in law, have demonstrated their ability to negotiate their way out of a brown paper bag.

There is that gynormous problem, too

2naSalit

(86,520 posts)
34. Right? My question is, where?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:54 PM
Feb 2020

Find me one in that administration. I'll but I can almost guarantee you won't find one before I hit 100 years old. If there is one, he's probably hidden away in some torture chamber in the dregs of the WH.

hlthe2b

(102,210 posts)
6. Can you say:
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:13 PM
Feb 2020

schadenfreude?

How could anyone--even those as corrupt as Netanyahu et al.-- have believed Kushner/Trump on anything.
He sold out everyone, but especially the Palestinians. They may not care about that, but they are finally realizing he sold out THEM too.


AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
42. The proposal may as well be a blank page.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:00 PM
Feb 2020

It was just a stunt to check off a list item. It's not a serious proposal, and never was.

And the lack of haste to implement shows they also aren't willing to own the fallout before the election. If it were actually implemented now, we'd be looking at ethnic cleansing live on CNN.

Even trump has to understand the optics that has.

CatMor

(6,212 posts)
10. He also doesn't know what he's doing ..
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:17 PM
Feb 2020

maybe he should have read 26 books instead of 25 regarding Middle East peace. He is so far in over his head.

atreides1

(16,071 posts)
54. No!!!
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 01:12 PM
Feb 2020

You're talking about a Baltimore slumlord...the man only thinks about filling his pockets and has little to no regard for the Palestinian people!!

We need to stop giving anyone attached to the Trump cabal, any kind of a pass, especially Kushner...

Javaman

(62,515 posts)
13. this is being depicted as the living ken doll stabbing yahoo in the back.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:21 PM
Feb 2020

I think it's more that the living ken doll has absolutely less than zero knowledge of what he's actually supposed to do and cobbled together a plan so monumentally stupid, that the "allies" had to come up with a cover story.

ProfessorGAC

(64,990 posts)
52. Another?
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:11 PM
Feb 2020

Come on, Marble.
You don't actually believe he has ever actually read a book.
I know you too well!

marble falls

(57,067 posts)
53. I don't believe it but Trumpelinski claimed that Jared had the moxey to resolve the ...
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 12:29 PM
Feb 2020

Israeli/Palestinian mess because Jared had read 45 books on the subject.

Jared claimed 25 books:


Jared Kushner Says He’s ‘Read 25 Books’ On The Israeli-Palestinian Conflict
The architect of Trump’s new Middle East peace plan got some sarcastic pats on the back for his boast.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jared-kushner-read-25-books_n_5e31f995c5b6fb636bae221f

By Josephine Harvey

Jared Kushner, who crafted President Donald Trump’s controversial Middle East peace plan, said he’s read 25 books about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The president’s senior White House adviser and son-in-law told Sky News Arabia Wednesday about the work he’s put in to develop the proposal for the region.


I’ve been studying this now for three years,” Kushner said. “I’ve read 25 books on it, I’ve spoken to every leader in the region, I’ve spoken to everyone who’s been involved in this.”

Trump unveiled his Middle East peace plan on Tuesday, with Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by his side. The plan calls for the creation of a State of Palestine with its capital in parts of east Jerusalem, while recognizing Israeli sovereignty over major settlements in the West Bank. The announcement was criticized for lacking in Palestinian representation and favoring Israeli priorities, and was immediately rejected by Palestinian leaders.

Kushner, a 36-year-old former real estate developer, is married to Trump’s elder daughter, Ivanka. He’s taken point on the Trump administration’s efforts to resolve the conflict in the Middle East, despite having no prior experience in foreign policy.

His remarks on Wednesday drew sarcastic congratulations from Twitter users.

If only someone had thought of this before! I mean, other people read 23 books, some people read 24 books. I heard of one guy who read 26 book But only Jared Kushner had the vision to read *25 books.* https://t.co/WHWUnBj00V
— Tabatha Southey (@TabathaSouthey) January 29, 2020

I’ve read 25 books about sailing around the world so I’m confident you should hire me to build your boat.
— John Wing (@JohnWing5) January 29, 2020

I’ve read 25 books on the NBA. I’m available whenever the Chicago Bulls need a new point guard. https://t.co/9g1jvUdSSd
— Renato Mariotti (@renato_mariotti) January 29, 2020

We’ve found one of the 25 books on the conflict Jared Kushner had someone else read for him. https://t.co/UuNuSeqYav
— Robert Mackey (@RobertMackey) January 29, 2020

It’s actually kind of sad Kushner even thinks this is impressive. This might make someone knowledgeable on a hobby level, but for actually policy is extremely amateurish. This doesn’t even get into the reality of which books may matter more than quantity. https://t.co/I2Cv9UY5PJ
— Marxist Soccer (@MarxistSoccer) January 30, 2020

I’ll believe that Jared Kushner is growing into his role as a White House staffer when he no longer thinks reading 25 books is a big friggin’ deal. https://t.co/1dnIrUcFZP
— Daniel W. Drezner (@dandrezner) January 29, 2020

Are people surprised that all of Kushner’s foreign policy experience from reading 25 books didn’t get a Middle East peace deal?
— David Yankovich (@DavidYankovich) January 29, 2020

let’s congratulate Jared Kushner on reading 25 books on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and learning nothing from any of them
— Chris Mohney (@chrismohney) January 29, 2020



He bought his education by the pound.

oldsoftie

(12,527 posts)
16. I'll defer to our Israeli experts, but this sounds like what he SHOULD have done?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:39 PM
Feb 2020

I mean, you cant fashion a peace deal that has as part of it, the taking of land not Israeli to begin with.
But again, I'm not familiar with the land involved or the specifics.

former9thward

(31,972 posts)
27. The guy quoted in the OP is on the far right of Israeli politics.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:44 PM
Feb 2020

And except in his small locality he is not a "leader" at all.

keithbvadu2

(36,749 posts)
17. Jared is a true Trump now. Maybe not by blood originally but he is a full-fledged Trump.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:46 PM
Feb 2020

Jared is a true Trump now. Maybe not by blood originally but he is a full-fledged Trump.

usaf-vet

(6,178 posts)
18. Having come from a tRump advisor what would we expect? Clearly the last paragraph say it all. LIES
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 05:47 PM
Feb 2020

He misled everybody. He knew for a long time that Netanyahu wanted to declare sovereignty over the Jordan Valley and northern Dead Sea — he said it many times over the last year. Gentlemen just don’t act this way.”.....................................

There are no gentlemen in the tRump administration. To qualify for a position you must be a lying sycophant.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
23. What. The. Fuck. Did. You. Expect.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:06 PM
Feb 2020

He's an incompetent slimy grifter from a family of incompetent slimy grifters, working for another family of incompetent slimy grifters.

Surprised?

Why?

former9thward

(31,972 posts)
25. "Israeli leader"???
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:42 PM
Feb 2020

This guy is on the far right. He is criticizing Kushner from the right. Did you read his comments?

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
29. I was all a big show for Trump to act like he was bringing peace,
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 06:45 PM
Feb 2020

plus a great distraction from the impeachment.

riversedge

(70,185 posts)
43. Arabs and Israelis are now learning what intelligent Americans have known for years: The Trump-Kus
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:29 PM
Feb 2020



Arabs and Israelis are now learning what intelligent Americans have known for years: The Trump-Kushners are frauds and grifters.



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muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
46. Is there an authoritative map of what Kushner proposed?
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 08:47 PM
Feb 2020

Because the only one I've seen did hand the Jordan valley and Dead Sea coast to Israel:


 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
48. There needs to be serious research into who the land actually belongs to, who was there first.
Tue Feb 4, 2020, 10:33 PM
Feb 2020

Hint...

It wasn't "God's" to give.

Mosby

(16,297 posts)
56. Jews are indigenous to Israel and the West Bank
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 02:40 PM
Feb 2020

A few other groups like the Samaritans can trace their roots back several millenium.

The Palestinians are also indigenous, but only in very recent history. Nevertheless, they are a distinct group with their own national aspirations, which should be respected.

This article does a good job imo discussing the topic.

https://forward.com/scribe/372978/are-both-jews-and-palestinians-indigenous-to-israel/

Mosby

(16,297 posts)
58. It wasn't even that.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 04:14 PM
Feb 2020

There is no Palestinian leader that can sign anything. Abbas's term ended 11 years ago. He is now an unelected dictator. Hamas took over Gaza after legislative elections, they are not legit.

I wish I could say what the point of all this was, but i really have no idea. Just theater i guess.

The international community should be promoting two things; Palestinian elections and after that a return to negotiations, the Clinton parameters are as good a starting point and anything else.


Maxheader

(4,371 posts)
57. STumpy and its family clan...
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 02:54 PM
Feb 2020


will all need to go into exile if they keep ignoring history and just wing it with their "plans"...people gonna be after theys worthless asses long after they vacate the white house...
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
59. What did they expect from an entitled, amateurish, inept little dilettante from
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 06:25 PM
Feb 2020

Last edited Wed Feb 5, 2020, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

the Trump Crime Family? All this guy has ever known was real-estate and publishing, and he pretty much fucked up everything he's ever touched in those industries too. How could they even think some little punk-ass bimbo like Kushner could pull off a solution in the middle-east when even the most experienced statesmen and women have been unable to do so?

God, I think I am going to go watch The Twilight Zone on Hulu tonight so I can feel somewhat normal again.

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