Sen. Manchin calls for censuring Trump over pressuring Ukraine to investigate his domestic political

[demmiblue]

Source: WaPo

Sen. Joe Manchin III (D-W.Va.), a moderate who is friendly with the White House, on Monday asked his colleagues to consider censuring President Trump as it concludes the Senate impeachment trial.

Manchin has prepared a censure resolution for fellow senators to consider in the coming days, which would be a less severe rebuke than removal from office for Trump’s efforts in pressuring Ukraine to investigate his domestic political rival.

“What the president did was wrong,” Manchin said in a speech on the Senate floor.

The crux of the case against Trump is the allegation that he withheld military aid and a White House meeting to pressure Ukraine to investigate former vice president and 2020 candidate Joe Biden and his son. Hunter Biden served on the board of Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company, while his father was vice president.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-manchin-calls-for-censuring-trump-over-pressuring-ukraine-to-investigate-his-domestic-political-rival/2020/02/03/c29a42aa-46c9-11ea-ab15-b5df3261b710_story.html

[comradebillyboy]

1. Good for Joe.

[Evolve Dammit]

2. Why after the vote??

[The empressof all]

3. Throws a lifeline to those Republicans who can't uphold the Constitution

They don't deserve any sort of pass on their disgusting votes to keep him in office. No halfsies on this IMO.... They can't get away with having it both ways. God, Manchin is so difficult to digest sometimes

[dewsgirl]

4. What's the point of censure? Really?

[COLGATE4]

5. Not even a slap on the hand for Numbnuts

[dewsgirl]

6. I just don't see where it would have any affect.

[COLGATE4]

7. Less than zero, IMO

[crickets]

9. It wouldn't. It's just political cover. nt

[democrattotheend]

11. It keeps Trump from being able to claim exoneration

Like he did with the Mueller report. He can't just dismiss it as a partisan witch hunt if people in his own party vote to censure him. I've been saying since last week this is what they should do. And I'm probably being overly optimistic, but I think it would be hard for someone like Lamar Alexander who said what Trump did was wrong to worm his way out of voting for censure.

[global1]

13. Correct Me If I'm Wrong....

but he still has the honor of being 'impeached'. You can't take that away from him. That stain will follow him and his legacy for all times.

Censure is a compromise between 'removal' and 'acquittal'.

It gives those Repug Senators a way to put their money where their mouth is - when they say Trump did break the law but it doesn't warrant removal from office. He can't say he was acquitted or exonerated. He's been censured or penalized for breaking the law. I kind of see it as one mark against him - and he better clean up his act or next time - it's removal.

Put up or shut up guys. Censure Trump!!!!!

He can't take a victory lap or spike the ball in the end zone.

He won't be able to gloat at the SOTU.

[SKKY]

8. It might keep the stink of impeachment on him a bit longer...

...than just a straight acquittal.

[forgotmylogin]

21. Plus, if we're lucky, he'll lose his ever-loving mind. (n/t)

[MissKat]

10. Better than nothing

It's another failure for the Orange One.

And, since we know he won't be removed, it's better than nothing.

I really don't want The Christian Dominion Fake Holy One as President, either.

I wonder if they've told the GOP take this or we'll just keep impeaching him.



Now...to something serious. Isn't there a way of getting small speakers into the Orange One's rallies? I'll bet we could get 100 people to scream "Liar liar pants on fire". I would just love to see his face as those words boomed out.

Little dreams.

[djacq]

12. A Censure does WHAT?

Exactly.

[Kali]

14. better than nothing, but they won't do it

they are fucking zombies.

[in2herbs]

15. No. Manchin is looking for cover bc he doesn't want to vote to impeach and his biggest

backlash may come from Ds in his state, not the Rs.

[nkpolitics1212]

16. A censure is a slap in the wrist-

It is your a bad boy Donald Trump, a naughty bad boy Donald Trump.
The American people knows that Donald Trump is a naughty bad boy.
I am going to speak out on behalf of my constituents who think Donald Trump is a nasty naughty bad boy.

[not_the_one]

17. political posturing

Manchin thinks he can have it both ways. Maybe he can face a primary from someone who has the communication skills to educate and convince the good people of West Virginia they need a REAL Democrat.

If not, maybe we should concentrate on flipping another senate seat to replace him in the senate seat calculation. Then West Virginia won't matter. Too bad, So sad.

It also allows the republicans to say SEE, WE KNOW HE'S GUILTY, BUT WE DON'T CARE, SO WE CENSURED HIM TO COVER OUR ASSES.... Now forget about it. Water under the bridge. Spilt milk. Just get over it. Bygones are bygones. What's done is done.

And the #1 winner... "For The Good Of The Country"

[TryLogic]

18. I can hear Trump now making fun of being censured. Getting lots of laughs about how much it hurt.

Gutless senators, mostly Republican, of course.

[bluestarone]

19. BULLSHIT!

The rethugs will vote no censure. THEN tRUMP will say SEE not even a censure brag brag brag!!! NO FUCKING WAY!!!

[oldsoftie]

20. Well, would this be something thats never been done to a president before?

If so, i'm all for staining him just a bit more