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turbinetree

(24,632 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 04:38 PM Jan 2020

GOP state lawmaker wants to let cops detain anyone they think might commit a crime

Source: American Independent

By Josh Israel -January 20, 2020 1:58 PM

A proposed bill would allow police to demand information and ID from anyone they deem suspicious and detain and question them for up to two hours.

A Kentucky Republican lawmaker is proposing a controversial bill that would allow police to question anyone they "reasonably" believe has committed or may soon commit a crime and detain them for up to two hours.

SB 89, filed last week by state Sen. Stephen Meredith (R), would change state law to let any "peace officer" in a public place demand the name, address, date of birth, and government-issue ID from anyone they reasonably deem "has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime."

If the person does not provide the requested information and an explanation for their actions, the officer could detain, question, and investigate them for as long as two hours without officially recording any of the incident.

Meredith did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the bill, but told the Lexington Herald-Leader, "If a man acts suspicious, then why wouldn’t you want to know what his name is?"

Read more: https://americanindependent.com/kentucky-gop-police-detention-bill-stephen-meredith-republicans/



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So in the Kentucky legislature............................they have and are deciding to just basically say to hell with the 4th amendment..................

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

So the "probable cause".................... words....................are......... he said so, you must be, and you said ......................


What could possibly go wrong..........................fascism is still fascism...................and lets not even go down the road that if you didn't do anything wrong mentality, ..................that's an excuse...........
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GOP state lawmaker wants to let cops detain anyone they think might commit a crime (Original Post) turbinetree Jan 2020 OP
Okay Sherman A1 Jan 2020 #1
And over at the Naval Observatory home, and AG house........................for starters turbinetree Jan 2020 #3
My first thought too! FarPoint Jan 2020 #5
Love to see trumpers arresting each other because they're all criminals in waiting. rickyhall Jan 2020 #20
right! Kurt V. Jan 2020 #27
minority report with no mystics involved... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #2
I'm late to respond padah513 Jan 2020 #34
Did the carrier enthusiasts find out about this yet? bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #4
Mr. Meredith has zero foresight and understanding of history it would seem. LonePirate Jan 2020 #6
Sounds Like Someone's Been Seething Over... jayfish Jan 2020 #7
whow. PAPERS PLEASE! riversedge Jan 2020 #8
I see no possible way that a law like this could be abused. Dr. Strange Jan 2020 #9
"acting suspicious" would probably involve the color of your skin rurallib Jan 2020 #10
Would wearing camo and carrying an assault rifle around your state's capital qualify? Canoe52 Jan 2020 #11
+1,000 n/t MarcA Jan 2020 #13
You win!! NotHardly Jan 2020 #21
What the actual fuck! This is just unbelievable. There is absolutely no end to their perfidy. lark Jan 2020 #12
Would white collar crimes be included? MarcA Jan 2020 #14
good question! (n/t) MissMillie Jan 2020 #17
Stephen Meredith looks like he's about to commit a crime IronLionZion Jan 2020 #15
Looks like a typical repuke pedophile SledDriver Jan 2020 #30
If I had any money, I would bet MissMillie Jan 2020 #16
Absolutely unconstitutional. n/t Mr.Bill Jan 2020 #18
And no record of such detention? mwooldri Jan 2020 #19
Department of Precrime, like in "Minority Report." nt tblue37 Jan 2020 #22
This law is superfluous. docgee Jan 2020 #23
Usual winger attempt at pushing.. Maxheader Jan 2020 #24
The 4th amendment has been abused since urine tests. icymist Jan 2020 #25
Is this the GOP response to red flag laws for guns? Beartracks Jan 2020 #26
they never consider its going to be them Kurt V. Jan 2020 #28
Proactive and not reactive. Interesting development. Not good, but interesting. Firestorm49 Jan 2020 #29
Like... people openly carrying assault rifles wearing confederate flags? truthisfreedom Jan 2020 #31
We'd have to start with every cracker carrying a gun to Richmond to intimidate te Nitram Jan 2020 #32
Or, if you prefer it in the original German... SnowCritter Jan 2020 #33
Like this cop? geralmar Jan 2020 #35

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)
20. Love to see trumpers arresting each other because they're all criminals in waiting.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 07:12 PM
Jan 2020

It's why they run for office.

getagrip_already

(14,250 posts)
2. minority report with no mystics involved...
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 04:42 PM
Jan 2020

"I have determined you will be guilty of 3 felonies, so I'm arresting and charging you now".

But if you arrest me, I won't be able to commit any crimes, and you will have to release me

"All the law requires is that I think you will commit a crime. That makes you guilty, and I can detain you for up to 200 years"

bucolic_frolic

(42,676 posts)
4. Did the carrier enthusiasts find out about this yet?
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 04:47 PM
Jan 2020

Aren't they a little suspicious, two hours worth anyway?

lark

(23,003 posts)
12. What the actual fuck! This is just unbelievable. There is absolutely no end to their perfidy.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jan 2020

None. They want to destroy us and are trying to gather up the tools to make it easier.

SledDriver

(2,049 posts)
30. Looks like a typical repuke pedophile
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 10:06 PM
Jan 2020

He should be detained, and have his phone, laptop, desktop, bible, etc confiscated and checked for cp.

docgee

(870 posts)
23. This law is superfluous.
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:39 PM
Jan 2020

The police can already drag you off the street for no reason and detain you for 24 hrs.

Maxheader

(4,366 posts)
24. Usual winger attempt at pushing..
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 08:40 PM
Jan 2020

the elimination of "innocent until proven guilty"..

Kinda a mainstay in our constitution...

Beartracks

(12,761 posts)
26. Is this the GOP response to red flag laws for guns?
Mon Jan 20, 2020, 09:21 PM
Jan 2020

It sounds like a disingenuous excuse for racial profiling.

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Nitram

(22,671 posts)
32. We'd have to start with every cracker carrying a gun to Richmond to intimidate te
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 12:15 AM
Jan 2020

citizens who traditionally talk to their representatives in Richmond on MLK Day about issues that concern them. Like the need to intelligently regulate firearms to prevent gun violence.

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