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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 12:41 PM Jan 2020

Space Force unveils service uniforms with camouflage design

Source: The Hill

The U.S. Space Force (USSF) late Friday unveiled camouflage uniforms bearing the branch's first nametapes for its members.

"The first #SpaceForce utility uniform nametapes have touched down in the Pentagon," the service branch tweeted from its official account, attaching a photo of the uniforms.

The uniforms were welcomed with praise by some, including the official Twitter account for the U.S. Navy, which called the clothing "out of this world" in a tweet. "What are the coordinates? Let's trade," the military branch added.

However, some social media users seized on the opportunity to mock the uniforms, asking questions like, "Why do we need camo in space?"




Read more: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/478920-space-force-unveils-service-uniforms-with-camouflage-design



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Space Force unveils service uniforms with camouflage design (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jan 2020 OP
LOL Bev54 Jan 2020 #1
How stupid can they be? wryter2000 Jan 2020 #2
They are just using BDU's underpants Jan 2020 #3
Better that than a red shirt . . . Journeyman Jan 2020 #4
Must admit I wouldn't want Doctor McCoy. lambchopp59 Jan 2020 #5
Go through his pockets and look for loose change Bayard Jan 2020 #6
LOL! Your description brought the sound into my head tonekat Jan 2020 #61
Nobody knows my last name! FailureToCommunicate Jan 2020 #38
I'll admit... If they called it "Starfleet" I'd be the first to enlist Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #63
They are developing Space Force songs too. Bowie? underpants Jan 2020 #7
"songs" left-of-center2012 Jan 2020 #8
Yes! underpants Jan 2020 #9
Rocket Man Roy Rolling Jan 2020 #11
A classic. B Stieg Jan 2020 #23
"What's the frequency, Kenneth?" dchill Jan 2020 #17
wtf is this space force even for? TalenaGor Jan 2020 #10
This: EX500rider Jan 2020 #13
Ah ok that makes a little more sense than the star wars theory I had goin lol TalenaGor Jan 2020 #14
All these people will be working on the ground. Nt Ghost Dog Jan 2020 #40
It's for new defense contracts relayerbob Jan 2020 #22
The space force will be tramping around in forests I guess. Kablooie Jan 2020 #12
Cool pic. What movie is it from? Owl Jan 2020 #58
Space Patrol. A 1950's TV Show. Kablooie Jan 2020 #59
Awesome. Thanks! Owl Jan 2020 #65
They should have taken a cue from Star Wars IronLionZion Jan 2020 #15
In space, no one can hear you scream. dchill Jan 2020 #16
just as a note weissmam Jan 2020 #18
Why can't they make the uniforms out of the same stuff that makes our airplanes INVISBLE? BamaRefugee Jan 2020 #19
Yes, why camouflage? LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #20
that is the standard service uniform or ACU (advanced combat uniform) weissmam Jan 2020 #24
Not standard for all the services. There is no comparable uniform in the USCG. We do have rwsanders Jan 2020 #57
Military Uniforms are a frickin scam maxrandb Jan 2020 #32
Interesting LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #34
The Navy "Blueberry" uniform was good for hiding...if you fell in the sea! maxrandb Jan 2020 #36
I used to wear that outfit all the time when I played Battlefield 3 Blue_Tires Jan 2020 #62
I bought a bunch of camo once, and I can't find any of it. marble falls Jan 2020 #21
lol LiberalLovinLug Jan 2020 #33
Stuff isn't free.. Maxheader Jan 2020 #25
it was funded... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #28
this is already an existing organization that was renamed weissmam Jan 2020 #29
, 5X Jan 2020 #26
Lots of deer in space brokephibroke Jan 2020 #27
Yeah, They Can Hold Their Breath For So Long? ProfessorGAC Jan 2020 #48
Clearly the space trees brokephibroke Jan 2020 #49
Good One! (nt) ProfessorGAC Jan 2020 #50
They followed the cow who jumped over the moon, of course! csziggy Jan 2020 #54
The stupidity. It hurts so much. Politicub Jan 2020 #30
Is it to hide among the stacks of wasted money? JustFiveMoreMinutes Jan 2020 #31
Somewhere in the Pentagon sits a disgruntled O-4... malthaussen Jan 2020 #35
Is this an example of the famed "military intelligence?" Nitram Jan 2020 #37
'Why do we need camo in space': Gothmog Jan 2020 #39
Don't mock the camouflage jmowreader Jan 2020 #41
I was thinking along these lines. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jan 2020 #42
Preparing to fight on moons of Endor? Gothmog Jan 2020 #43
I mean, FUCK ME !!! I am one of Captain Video's Video Rangers and I watched Tom Corbett, Space 3Hotdogs Jan 2020 #44
And here I thought they'd be shiny Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #45
The purpose of the camp is to remind them of "earth" until they get back dirtside. Marcuse Jan 2020 #46
tRump fatigues Blue Owl Jan 2020 #47
It's the standard Air Force uniform Abnredleg Jan 2020 #51
"It's the standard Air Force uniform" left-of-center2012 Jan 2020 #52
You misunderstand the role of the Space Force Abnredleg Jan 2020 #53
You misunderstand Trump left-of-center2012 Jan 2020 #55
I won't disagree with you there Abnredleg Jan 2020 #56
Guess the Pentagon got to look at these after Trump screamed at them, calling them babies. TheFourthMind Jan 2020 #60
It is the standard Air Force uniform. What else would you expect? nt hack89 Jan 2020 #64
lol What a waste rockfordfile Jan 2020 #66

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
5. Must admit I wouldn't want Doctor McCoy.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:04 PM
Jan 2020

One wave of the twee-wee-wee salt shaker and it's "He's dead Jim".

Bayard

(22,063 posts)
6. Go through his pockets and look for loose change
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:13 PM
Jan 2020

Camouflage. Sounds like something tRump came up with.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
7. They are developing Space Force songs too. Bowie?
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:14 PM
Jan 2020

"We've got some steps to go through," he said. "General Raymond's team has a -- a massive, incredibly well thought out and planned implementation process for ... uniforms, pay, songs, that they need to go through to get a Space Force ... I don't know the timeline on it but we can probably get you guys an update on some Space Force-related issues in the near future."

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/01/17/space-force-offers-first-peek-new-camouflage-uniform.html

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
23. A classic.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:26 PM
Jan 2020

Right on up there alongside one from the show repeated on Nimoy's 4th album (The Touch of Leonard Nimoy), "Maiden Wine."

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
10. wtf is this space force even for?
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jan 2020

is someone or something headed our way? or are we just going to start conducting our wars out in space?

EX500rider

(10,842 posts)
13. This:
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jan 2020
But the new military service, overseen by the US Air Force, is not intended to put troops into orbit.

Rather, it will protect US assets such as the hundreds of satellites used for communication and surveillance.

US Air Force Secretary Barbara Barrett said the Space Force would comprise about 16,000 air force and civilian personnel



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51160547

weissmam

(905 posts)
18. just as a note
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jan 2020

space command has existed for years , this is a just a renaming of an existing organization. Current mission and personnel do not change , just the name of the organization

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
20. Yes, why camouflage?
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:06 PM
Jan 2020

Do they think it looks smart in its own right? Because I think it looks ugly. Its supposed to look ugly. Or at least not stand out, and be pretty. It looks like dirt, and old leaves. It looks that way for a purpose, to be used when the background is of the Earth. Also to protect in combat. As far as I read, I don't see them involved in combat either.

I think eventually the US will actually have a manned space force in orbit and beyond. Sci Fi has yet to be wrong on its hard predictions. It was an opportunity to design something truly unique. Actually that T-shirt is not far from a real possibility. If it were on a similar sewn uniform as the one on the top. But dark blue, and with stars on a portion of it. Maybe just down the sleeve, or on the shoulders.

weissmam

(905 posts)
24. that is the standard service uniform or ACU (advanced combat uniform)
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jan 2020

that each service wears in garrison , the only thing new is the patches

rwsanders

(2,598 posts)
57. Not standard for all the services. There is no comparable uniform in the USCG. We do have
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jan 2020

camouflage for the Port Security Units, but currently it is in the desert camouflage. This would probably be implemented if we were involved in combat operations in SE Asia, but just because it exists doesn't mean it is implemented automatically.
Personally I take this to mean that the folks in charge are trying to appease Trump with minimal effort. They expect big changes before this becomes serious, so they are just putting something out there.

maxrandb

(15,324 posts)
32. Military Uniforms are a frickin scam
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:01 PM
Jan 2020

I retired from the Navy after 30 years. In that time, I can count 10 uniform changes.

We went from Salt and Peppers to Crackerjack without piping, Crackerjack with piping, bell bottom dungarees, coveralls, back to Salt and Peppers, to Black and Khakis, to green camoflauge, then to Blue Camoflauge.

After hundreds of thousands, if not millions to come up with Blue Camoflauge, someone pointed out; "hey, if a Sailor fell over the side wearing one of these, we'd never find to them

They then decided to go back to Green Camoflauge.

Everytime there is a uniform shift, contractors that design and make the uniforms get a killing... and taxpayers foot the bill for clothing allowances so we can go buy the new uniforms and get them tailored with all the accoutrements.

Best uniform I ever wore was Blue Coveralls. They were comfortable, durable and inexpensive...in other words... the last thing a government contractor wanted.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
34. Interesting
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:07 PM
Jan 2020

Thanks for sharing. I suspected this kind of waste was going on. All those army surplus stores are always chalk full

maxrandb

(15,324 posts)
36. The Navy "Blueberry" uniform was good for hiding...if you fell in the sea!
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 04:38 PM
Jan 2020
https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2016/08/04/the-u-s-military-is-dumping-the-dumbest-uniform-ever/

They also had a problem of being dangerous if you have a fire onboard. Millions of dollars wasted.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
62. I used to wear that outfit all the time when I played Battlefield 3
Tue Jan 21, 2020, 09:52 AM
Jan 2020

I thought it was cool and very stylish?

Luckily the Navy digital pattern has been popular enough to carry over into a whole variety of civilian clothing and sports uniforms...

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
25. Stuff isn't free..
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:35 PM
Jan 2020

You can bet the military budget won't be rearranged to fund this debacle..

Guess who will pickup the tab?...

getagrip_already

(14,742 posts)
28. it was funded...
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:42 PM
Jan 2020

when congress approved it, it funded it. I forget the amount, but it was sizeable.

But this will be a ground-based force. Sure, some will be astronauts, some will fly planes, but there won't be any battlestars or ty fighters. Anything you can think of as using a human crew could be done by automated systems. There really is no need for a space based crew.

brokephibroke

(1,883 posts)
49. Clearly the space trees
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jan 2020

Produce more than enough oxygen for the space deer. Can’t have our Space Force troops standing out...

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
30. The stupidity. It hurts so much.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 02:52 PM
Jan 2020

And the dems voted to fund this mess. I know it was part of a compromise, but I don't have to like it.

malthaussen

(17,193 posts)
35. Somewhere in the Pentagon sits a disgruntled O-4...
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 03:23 PM
Jan 2020

... in the PR department. His career never took off, he's been passed over for promotion, and he hates the military and everything associated with it.

This is his revenge.

-- Mal

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
37. Is this an example of the famed "military intelligence?"
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 05:56 PM
Jan 2020

Apparently they don't get the concept. I'm thinking purely black, non-reflective space suits.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
41. Don't mock the camouflage
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:07 PM
Jan 2020

They haven't passed out the organization chart for Space Force, but I suspect satellite communications will be a big part of their mission.

So...let's say you're Lieutenant General Sam Jones and you're commanding general of XVIII Airborne Corps. You've just been given orders by President-for-Life Trump to deploy to support the Wakanda Ministry of Defense in their war against Nambia. (And five minutes after you receive the order, you receive a phone call from the White House Situation Room: "Look, General Jones, we can't convince the dimwit Wakanda and Nambia don't really exist...so we're going to declare the 25th Infantry Division the "Nambian Army" and you deploy the 101st Airborne to Hawaii for a month of training - at least half of which is to be training in how to surf.&quot

You will need a tactical high-capacity SATCOM terminal from Space Force to transmit news of the war against Nambia back to Trump. It will be on a five-ton truck. It will have two 30KW generators along with it, and a crew of 20 Space Rangers led by a Space Cadet with the rank of Captain.

The LAST thing you need is for these 21 highly-trained individuals to show up at the 101st's Division Tactical Operations Center in Star Trek uniforms.

42. I was thinking along these lines.
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 07:24 PM
Jan 2020


It's the high heels that sell it.

Fat Donnie loves the sound of "Space Force." Well, actually he loves the sound of his own voice, but this time he's using it to say "Space Force."



He probably has dreams like this at night:



Augh!

3Hotdogs

(12,374 posts)
44. I mean, FUCK ME !!! I am one of Captain Video's Video Rangers and I watched Tom Corbett, Space
Sat Jan 18, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jan 2020

Cadet on Channel 7, in the 50's. I was way ahead of this stuff.

I should have at least been offered the rank of Galactic Commandant.

Abnredleg

(669 posts)
51. It's the standard Air Force uniform
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jan 2020

and given that the Space Force falls under the Air Force, just like the Marine Corps falls under the Navy, what did you expect them to wear?

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
52. "It's the standard Air Force uniform"
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jan 2020
The Air Force and Marines don't wear jungle camo in the Middle East.

And the "Space Force" doesn't need jungle camo in space.


Abnredleg

(669 posts)
53. You misunderstand the role of the Space Force
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jan 2020

it's members are not going anywhere near space - they will be sitting behind computer consoles on earth. And what will they be wearing? The standard USAF utility uniform, which happens to be woodland camouflaged. If they are forward deployed to the ME, then they will wear desert camouflage. In the military, everyone wears camouflaged uniforms, regardless of their role, because that's what "uniform" means. Think of it as corporate branding.

Role of Space Command

Abnredleg

(669 posts)
56. I won't disagree with you there
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 04:12 PM
Jan 2020

and I'm sure the AF leadership winces every time he opens his mouth. The Space Command, as implemented, actually makes a lot of sense, being discussed for many years. Unfortunately it's now linked to Trump, which means it automatically generates opposition and ridicule regardless of its merits.

TheFourthMind

(343 posts)
60. Guess the Pentagon got to look at these after Trump screamed at them, calling them babies.
Sun Jan 19, 2020, 07:06 PM
Jan 2020

So much pathetic. So much sad.

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