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usaf-vet

(6,207 posts)
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:24 PM Dec 2019

Us vs. them: Trump aiming to use impeachment to rev up base

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Source: AP

Using stark “us vs. them” language, President Donald Trump and his reelection campaign have begun framing his impeachment not as a judgment on his conduct but as a referendum on how Democrats regard him and his supporters.

Read more: https://apnews.com/1221d4b055c568daa639663783ffd258



I would have to ask myself when he says "us vs. them" ...... Does he mean Putin and him vs. the American People and our Constitution?
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Us vs. them: Trump aiming to use impeachment to rev up base (Original Post) usaf-vet Dec 2019 OP
He always snowybirdie Dec 2019 #1
At this time tRUMP's "base" is the minority. What we need is a fair and secure election. abqtommy Dec 2019 #2
Maggots are totally bonkers revved already. StClone Dec 2019 #18
And a MASSIVE voter turn out TexasBushwhacker Dec 2019 #19
To answer your question. onecaliberal Dec 2019 #3
Trump's base is the buffer Turbineguy Dec 2019 #11
Of course he is ... Odoreida Dec 2019 #4
Nothing like a president deliberately stoking hatred and distrust pandr32 Dec 2019 #5
Pox News feeds the cult The Wizard Dec 2019 #6
Orwell rolls in his grave. mdbl Dec 2019 #10
Witnesses. Not a Whitewash. I think we have to draw a line in the sand and inform the people bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #7
Impeachment and acquittal just may rev up the democratic base. Merlot Dec 2019 #8
Let em!!! All that jaw flapping and lying. The only ones that will listen are voting for him anyway Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #9
where I live they are falling for it, even those that don't have a pot to piss in love him yaesu Dec 2019 #12
That knife cuts both ways... BlueIdaho Dec 2019 #13
It's revving up our base too and if the Senate gives him his fake trial then look out for our GOTV TeamPooka Dec 2019 #14
How much "revving" does his base need? SergeStorms Dec 2019 #15
Yep...and it it weren't impeachment... paleotn Dec 2019 #16
We have to stop worrying about his "base" FakeNoose Dec 2019 #17
It will rev up ours too. Mz Pip Dec 2019 #20
I'm already hearing it sakabatou Dec 2019 #21
You can bet on it. HissyFit Dec 2019 #22
I used to be absolutely mystified each year when FOX Noise raised the "issue" summer_in_TX Dec 2019 #23
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Dec 2019 #24

snowybirdie

(5,234 posts)
1. He always
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:32 PM
Dec 2019

has to manufacture a "them". Time for "us" to tell his base that they're fos and always have been. Stupidity and idiocy shouldn't be rewarded any more.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
2. At this time tRUMP's "base" is the minority. What we need is a fair and secure election.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:33 PM
Dec 2019

StClone

(11,686 posts)
18. Maggots are totally bonkers revved already.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:28 PM
Dec 2019

Any more revving up and stroking out should be a real concern. Trump should know remember Walt Reed?

TexasBushwhacker

(20,214 posts)
19. And a MASSIVE voter turn out
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:10 PM
Dec 2019

Especially for voters under 50, Latinos and African Americans.

onecaliberal

(32,895 posts)
3. To answer your question.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:34 PM
Dec 2019

Putin is against America, dump and his cultists will follow right off the cliff.

Turbineguy

(37,366 posts)
11. Trump's base is the buffer
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:41 PM
Dec 2019

cannon fodder.

 

Odoreida

(1,549 posts)
4. Of course he is ...
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:53 PM
Dec 2019

Just another variation on the "my enemies are your enemies" trope repeated ad nauseam in one moronic meme after another.

pandr32

(11,612 posts)
5. Nothing like a president deliberately stoking hatred and distrust
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:04 PM
Dec 2019

What a guy!
Let's hope that what he winds up doing is to rev up support for impeachment and removal from office. His supporters must be having a hard time continuously defending his demented carnival-barker performances. That and his endless attempts to reach into their pockets for support must be burdensome.
Let's hope the novelty of a mafia-clown for the serious job of POTUS is wearing thin.

The Wizard

(12,547 posts)
6. Pox News feeds the cult
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:05 PM
Dec 2019

propaganda that makes them the eternal victims. They jabber about 63 million voters have their votes taken away, but never mention the 70 million who voted for someone other than "The Siberian Candidate," with a three million advantage to Hillary. And Trump's campaign violated the law to steal the White House. The masters of projection and feigned outrage designed in accordance with the Machiavelli instruction manual.
Orwell rolls in his grave.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
10. Orwell rolls in his grave.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:28 PM
Dec 2019

He has to be. He tried to warn everyone, the repugs just used it as a playbook and there are 63 million people in this country who fall in one of the following categories:

Total Fool
Greedy Bastard
Batshit Crazy

bucolic_frolic

(43,287 posts)
7. Witnesses. Not a Whitewash. I think we have to draw a line in the sand and inform the people
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:17 PM
Dec 2019

It's been posted on Twitter.

Pick a side. America. Or Trump.

Add to that. Rule of law. Or rule by Russian Oligarchs. U.S. Constitution. Or Dictatorship.

It really is that simple, that plain, clear as day once anyone sees it and chooses to think for a minute.

Trumpers are still blaming 17 Angry Democrats, and say he had no opportunity to defend himself.

Well here's his chance.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
8. Impeachment and acquittal just may rev up the democratic base.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:38 PM
Dec 2019

Has anyone in the press thought or written about that?

Thekaspervote

(32,793 posts)
9. Let em!!! All that jaw flapping and lying. The only ones that will listen are voting for him anyway
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:26 PM
Dec 2019

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
12. where I live they are falling for it, even those that don't have a pot to piss in love him
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:40 PM
Dec 2019

Went shopping, all the aisles were full of people talking about how they are going to vote dems out for going after their God, tRump. The complete brainwashing in the rust belt is complete.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
13. That knife cuts both ways...
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:45 PM
Dec 2019

Sometimes he is his own worst enemy. I hope he keeps it up.

TeamPooka

(24,254 posts)
14. It's revving up our base too and if the Senate gives him his fake trial then look out for our GOTV
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:44 PM
Dec 2019

actions next year

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
15. How much "revving" does his base need?
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:12 PM
Dec 2019

They're a closed set. They're certainly not going to gain any new members, so how much "revving" do they need? These deplorable nit-wits are going to vote for Trump no matter what. Nothing will keep them from going to the polls and voting for their savior, the most detestable man in America, just because he represents everything they love. Fine. We're not going to convert a single one of them, but there aren't enough of them to re-select him as president. We have to keep foreign interference to a minimum, because it's foolish to think we'll stem it altogether. We have to stop, as much as is possible, republicans from disenfranchising Democratic voters. We have to keep Democrats united around our eventual candidate, and not fall for any third party "backlash" crap. If we can do those three things Trump doesn't stand a chance. NOT A CHANCE.

paleotn

(17,960 posts)
16. Yep...and it it weren't impeachment...
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:13 PM
Dec 2019

they'd come up with something else to rile their perpetually angry base, even it it were made up from whole cloth. The perpetually angry set are useful tools for IQ45, Putin and anyone else bent on creating a fascist kleptocracy in America. Sucks to be a tool, but tools haven't the sense to know they suck.

FakeNoose

(32,748 posts)
17. We have to stop worrying about his "base"
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:09 PM
Dec 2019

Chump's base - if he still has one - is a bunch of idiots who cannot think for themselves.



Besides that, the numbers are dwindling daily, and NO NEW SUPPORTERS are replacing them.



Mz Pip

(27,453 posts)
20. It will rev up ours too.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:20 PM
Dec 2019

Be careful what you wish for dumb ass.

sakabatou

(42,174 posts)
21. I'm already hearing it
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:31 PM
Dec 2019

People saying that the impeachment will cause Trump voters to elect him again.

 

HissyFit

(12 posts)
22. You can bet on it.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:18 PM
Dec 2019

The planning has been in the works for months. As soon as he is acquitted by the Senate, the attacks will begin. His "innocence" will be trumpeted to the heavens, and no one who opposed him will be immune. It's gonna be ugly.

summer_in_TX

(2,752 posts)
23. I used to be absolutely mystified each year when FOX Noise raised the "issue"
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:59 PM
Dec 2019

of the "War on Christmas." Now I realize it was one of many tactics to make us "other," and maybe dangerously so to their viewers. The various culture war attacks, the fear mongering about immigrants and Black Lives Matter and so forth, all that was to create and increase tribal loyalty.

Now they believe liberals are out to destroy everything they value, and that we hate them. Rush is quick to tell them that we despise them.

Between that and the work Fox has done to convince them of liberal media bias and to not trust any media sources that aren't in the closed RW media system, they are not persuadable at all.

BUT, there are others who are not full-blown Fauxies. They may be family members or friends. They tend to believe what their circle believes, but they aren't hard core.

The more demagoguery Trump and others do, the more they are likely to find their own attitudes hardening. The more we despise them, the more that plays into Trump's and GOP hands.

I don't despise them myself because I'm very aware of the systematic propaganda that brought them to where they are, the "facts" they believe because RW billionaires have funded scholarships, academic chairs, "research," think tanks, well-groomed pundits / "experts" to convince them they are the reasonable ones. I am sad for them, but I despise the oligarchs and their ideological minions who set out to manipulate them.

A few former right-wingers have seen the light. I think it can happen for others. But the hatred I often read online, including here, makes it harder.

Omaha Steve

(99,714 posts)
24. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 09:20 AM
Dec 2019

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