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groundloop

(11,514 posts)
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 08:24 AM Dec 2019

Army football removes motto from spirit flag

Source: ABC News

The United States Military Academy at West Point removed a motto from a spirit flag used by the school's football team because of its connection to hate groups.

The letters GFBD, which stand for “God Forgives, Brothers Don’t,” were emblazoned on a skull and crossbones flag the academy says had been used since the mid-1990s to emphasize teamwork, loyalty and toughness.

The administration at the academy was made aware that the phrase also is associated with extremist groups. The change was made in early September after an internal investigation.

“The U.S. Military Academy is fully committed to developing leaders of character who embody the Army values," Lt. Gen. Darryl A. Williams, superintendent of the U.S. Military Academy, said in a statement. “Ideology, actions, and associations of hate groups directly conflict with our values and have no place at this institution."

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/army-football-removes-motto-spirit-flag-67570855?cid=clicksource_4380645_null_headlines_hed

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Army football removes motto from spirit flag (Original Post) groundloop Dec 2019 OP
This will be reversed .... strongermessage Dec 2019 #1
Let alone the fact that brothers can and need to forgive. marble falls Dec 2019 #2
IMO: Stupid statement. My late brother forgave me a lot as I did him. rickyhall Dec 2019 #3
A Fundamental Question ProfessorGAC Dec 2019 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Dec 2019 #5
You answered your own question. ManiacJoe Dec 2019 #6
You Think So ProfessorGAC Dec 2019 #7
Air Force was in the tourney not that long ago. RhodeIslandOne Dec 2019 #8
Televised games brings in advertising revenue regardless of seats filled in the stadium LanternWaste Dec 2019 #9
One Game ProfessorGAC Dec 2019 #10
For the same reason I support the NEA, and other government supported Arts and Cultural Activities JCMach1 Dec 2019 #11

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
4. A Fundamental Question
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 08:17 PM
Dec 2019

Why are the military academies using taxpayer $ to fund athletic programs?
Many small(ish) colleges lose $ on athletics, but find them useful extracurricular activities.
That's debatable, but there's no debate if it's taxpayers footing the bill.

Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #4)

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
6. You answered your own question.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 04:21 AM
Dec 2019


The military academies are competing at a high enough level that their sports programs are probably not losing money.

ProfessorGAC

(64,854 posts)
7. You Think So
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 08:36 AM
Dec 2019

I've seen highlights of those games, and except for Army/Navy, the stands are only somewhat filled, and majority cadets or midshipmen.
Hard to believe they charge those students for tickets.
And, to your point about high level: other than when David Robinson was at Annapolis, when has a military academy been in the NCAA basketball tournament?
I'm not at all convinced those schools' athletic programs are truly self-funded.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
8. Air Force was in the tourney not that long ago.
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 02:25 PM
Dec 2019

And in some of the minor post season tourney's more recently.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
9. Televised games brings in advertising revenue regardless of seats filled in the stadium
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 02:58 PM
Dec 2019

The Army-Navy game is steadily in the top ten revenue generating games televised every year. CBS's coverage of the 2019 Army-Navy football game delivered the second-highest-rated college game in the last 24 years.

JCMach1

(27,553 posts)
11. For the same reason I support the NEA, and other government supported Arts and Cultural Activities
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:52 PM
Dec 2019

Sports/College Football is part of our culture...

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