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swag

(26,480 posts)
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 06:31 PM Dec 2019

Trump: Giuiani Will Deliver A Report To Barr, Congress On His Findings In Ukraine

Source: Talking Points Memo

By Nicole Lafond

December 7, 2019 5:22 p.m.

President Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani will deliver a “report” to Congress and Attorney General Bill Barr about his latest findings in Ukraine, Trump told reporters on Saturday.

“He’s going to make a report, I think to the attorney general and to Congress. He says he has a lot of good information. I have not spoken to him about that information yet,” Trump said. “He has not told me what he found, but I think he wants to go before Congress … and also to the attorney general and the Department of Justice. I hear he has found plenty.”

While it’s unclear what “information” Trump is referencing, it likely has something to do with Giuliani’s ongoing efforts to peddle fabricated dirt in Ukraine about President Trump’s political rivals. This Giuliani-led pressure campaign to get the Ukrainian government to open investigations has formed the basis of the ongoing impeachment inquiry.

Giuliani openly traveled to Ukraine to meet with the very Ukrainian prosecutors at the heart of conspiracies about former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden, just as the impeachment proceedings were handed over to the House Judiciary Committee back home. A right-wing news channel, One American News Network — which is slowly replacing Fox News as Trump’s favorite news outlet — is producing a documentary on Giuliani’s antics and the travel is part of that filming.

Read more: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-guiliani-report-congress-barr-findings-ukraine-latest-trip

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Trump: Giuiani Will Deliver A Report To Barr, Congress On His Findings In Ukraine (Original Post) swag Dec 2019 OP
Heart be still. Can't wait to see Rudy Colludy's spewage. Lock him up! Evolve Dammit Dec 2019 #1
Gawd, we're laughingstocks. How embarrassing. n/t EndlessWire Dec 2019 #32
Correction . . . Iliyah Dec 2019 #2
Anything to prop up the corpse of their conspiracy theories. Propaganda is repetitive by design. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2019 #3
Keep digging and racking up the criminal counts. C_U_L8R Dec 2019 #4
So Rudy IS operating as an unlicensed foreign agent. More evidence for SDNY. Vinca Dec 2019 #5
Its not legal. Historic NY Dec 2019 #6
The Rudy dossier. ancianita Dec 2019 #7
HaHaHa!! OMG, that's so funny! n/t EndlessWire Dec 2019 #33
He is NOT a government official. He has no right to do this. AJT Dec 2019 #8
I doubt he can just walk into the Capitol and demand to make a "report." LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2019 #23
You just can't make this sht up.....wait, Trump and Rudy ARE making it up ashredux Dec 2019 #9
This is a put up job of lies and obfuscation and likely more bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #10
Rudy found a good sushi restaurant?? Sancho Dec 2019 #11
Rudy's on a train to nowhere muriel_volestrangler Dec 2019 #12
Train to Nowhere- Savoy Brown spike jones Dec 2019 #18
OK Spike....Tell Mama and the boys back home..... OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2019 #30
Will never happen Nasruddin Dec 2019 #13
So, can any private attorney 'investigate' and then make a sinkingfeeling Dec 2019 #14
I'm sure that Nancy will allow that... Dan Dec 2019 #15
He had two years with compliant House & Senate to do this stuff. He did nothing expect judges. Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2019 #16
Judge who will come back to Kaiserguy Dec 2019 #47
If you like subpoenas a lotta, and getting offed in Ukraine....Rudy's Song. Evolve Dammit Dec 2019 #17
I want to see the look on his face SonofDonald Dec 2019 #19
If he doesn't get arrested the moment he walks of the aircraft. RDANGELO Dec 2019 #20
The only time I'll watch cRUDY is when he appears in shackles before a judge. abqtommy Dec 2019 #21
that's what I was thinking scarytomcat Dec 2019 #43
Im suspecting he will never be charged.... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #45
That should be quite comical Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2019 #22
So if Rudy delivers this so call report to Barr and it contains INdemo Dec 2019 #24
SMDH ( shaking my damn head) nt iluvtennis Dec 2019 #25
Fuck that Joke. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2019 #26
What bullshit is this? Bayard Dec 2019 #27
Too bad Michael Avenatti flopped, Baked Potato Dec 2019 #28
Yeah, cuz that'll be the final, binding word on the matter. dchill Dec 2019 #29
Maybe Rudy found Obama's birth certificate? Canoe52 Dec 2019 #31
So if the majority asks this jerk to swear and raise his right hand do you think he will turbinetree Dec 2019 #34
The Dems better look out for videohead5 Dec 2019 #35
Real, at least, to them. By the thousands. Raised seal passports, contracts, you name it. ancianita Dec 2019 #39
Swiftboating from the White House... BlueIdaho Dec 2019 #36
Oh, I'm sure he will DFW Dec 2019 #37
Remember a few months ago when the Dept of State IG or counsel DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #38
They are doing more of what the impeachment is about... chriscan64 Dec 2019 #40
Racketeering in plain sight UpInArms Dec 2019 #41
Here's an idea.... getagrip_already Dec 2019 #42
Giuliani in Ukraine, also being the President's personal lawyer, is FAR more than a perception of karynnj Dec 2019 #44
More obstruction and the House leadership needs to come out now and call this obstruction yaesu Dec 2019 #46
TPM: Another oligarch linked to Guiliani campaign for dirt DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #48

C_U_L8R

(44,891 posts)
4. Keep digging and racking up the criminal counts.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 06:43 PM
Dec 2019

Just when you think they couldn't be dumber, they outdo themselves stupendously.

23. I doubt he can just walk into the Capitol and demand to make a "report."
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 10:54 PM
Dec 2019

I don't the Rules would allow that. It would take away all control the committee chairmen would have in how they want to conduct the process.

My only questions would be, "Did you prepare this report at the direction of the president?" and "Did you present yourself to Ukrainian officials as someone who was doing a government authorized investigation?"

muriel_volestrangler

(101,150 posts)
12. Rudy's on a train to nowhere
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:06 PM
Dec 2019

Rudy's on a train to nowhere, halfway down the line
He don't wanna get there, but he needs time
He ain't sophisticated, nor well-educated
After all the hours he wasted, still he needs time.
He needs time - he needs time for livin',
He needs time - for someone just to see him.
He ain't had no lovin'
For no reason or rhyme
And the whole world's above him.
Well it's not as though he's fat-
No there's more to this than that-
See he tries to play it cool-
Wouldn't be nobodys fool.

Rudy thought that all good things comes to those that wait
But recently he could see that it may come too late.

All through your life, all through the years
Nobody loved, nobody cared.
So dim the light, dark are your fears
Try as I might, I can't hold back the tears
How can you live without love, it's not fair?
Someone said give but I just didn't dare.
What good advice are you waiting to hear?
Hearing's alright for them that's all there
You'd better gain control now
You'd better show'em all now
You'd better make or break now
You'd better give and take now
You'll have to push and shove now
You'll have to find some love now
You'd better gain control now.
Now he's just come out the movie.
Numb of all the pain,
Sad but in a while he'll soon be
back on his train...

https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/supertramp/rudy.html

Dan

(3,524 posts)
15. I'm sure that Nancy will allow that...
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:37 PM
Dec 2019

Poor Trump, he thinks that he can control Congress or at least the House, but unlike the Senate the House (under Nancy) understands that it is a separate branch of the government.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,786 posts)
16. He had two years with compliant House & Senate to do this stuff. He did nothing expect judges.
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:45 PM
Dec 2019

Judges pushed forward by other people and just rubber-stamped them.

Kaiserguy

(740 posts)
47. Judge who will come back to
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:20 PM
Dec 2019

haunt us when they start making some really bad rulings about our lives and nation.

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
19. I want to see the look on his face
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 08:39 PM
Dec 2019

When he realizes the gig is up.

And he just dug the hole deeper meaning more indictments for him.

Priceless

getagrip_already

(14,241 posts)
45. Im suspecting he will never be charged....
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 12:28 PM
Dec 2019

It woulf have happened by now and he is not acting like someone facing indictment.

The fix is in; whether its a secret pardon or just barr refusing to allow it, he isnt going anywhere.

Sad, infuriating, par for the course.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
24. So if Rudy delivers this so call report to Barr and it contains
Sat Dec 7, 2019, 10:57 PM
Dec 2019

well scripted lies by Rudy and Barr tries to say its accurate and Trump then is guilty of another obstruction charge and Rudy is going to Prison as well as Barr and he will be dis-barred Right?

Bayard

(21,802 posts)
27. What bullshit is this?
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 12:27 AM
Dec 2019

He, and disgraced former Ukraine officials, have come up with, "facts" to promote tRump's cause? Sorry to say, rethugs will eat this up, and use it to try hauling the Bidens into Senate hearings. Even if they don't believe it themselves.

If we had a real Justice Dept, Rudy would have been arrested already for impersonating a government official.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
28. Too bad Michael Avenatti flopped,
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 12:31 AM
Dec 2019

He would have been a great TV Lawyer to send around the world for “reports”.

turbinetree

(24,632 posts)
34. So if the majority asks this jerk to swear and raise his right hand do you think he will
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 01:23 AM
Dec 2019

I got a bridge........................and then the country had to listen to this shit show of projection,
“He has not told me what he found, but I think he wants to go before Congress … and also to the attorney general and the Department of Justice. I hear he has found plenty.”

from traitor................so he either spoke to you or he didn't...............................

videohead5

(2,150 posts)
35. The Dems better look out for
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 02:44 AM
Dec 2019

Forgeries. These people Giuliani had meetings with are connected to Putin. Russia can make up forged documents that look real.

DFW

(54,050 posts)
37. Oh, I'm sure he will
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 05:28 AM
Dec 2019

Just as soon as Giuliani, Devin Nunes, Frank Luntz, Sean Hannity and the ambassador from the Russian Federation get finished with writing and editing it.

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
38. Remember a few months ago when the Dept of State IG or counsel
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 06:12 AM
Dec 2019

contacted Congress about an urgent matter that turned out to be propaganda and conspiracy theories about Yovanovitch and Ukraine sent from Rudy with in a fake WH envelope? Jamie Raskin was the only member of Congress who attended the meeting and came out confused about why or urgency was. Now we know, it was all part of the same continuing plot.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
40. They are doing more of what the impeachment is about...
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 09:43 AM
Dec 2019

...during the impeachment. It would be like Nixon continuing to order more and more break-ins, maybe the Washington Post or FBI to find out what they knew.

getagrip_already

(14,241 posts)
42. Here's an idea....
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 10:25 AM
Dec 2019

Bring in 4 national security experts and hold public hearings on the points and sources in guiliani's report, without rudy, and without the report.

Rudy is a compulsive liar, and clearly thinks trump will pardon him for flat out lying to congress.

Call out the sources for the liars they are, discredit the "report", and make rudy a laughing stock. If you want him on lying to congress, just get him to answer questions in writing under oath.

they are counting on the dems ignoring it. Then they can wave it around, and maybe even bring it up in the senate, where it can't be easily attacked.

karynnj

(59,474 posts)
44. Giuliani in Ukraine, also being the President's personal lawyer, is FAR more than a perception of
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:56 AM
Dec 2019

conflict of interest than Hunter Biden's seat on the board. In 2014, neither Biden or anyone in the Obama administration ever endorsed Hunter as representing them and they did nothing in his or Burisma's interests. Here, Trump's tweet - among other things - clearly signals that Giuliani represents him.

If not for being the President's lawyer and the fact that the President told many people in his administration and in Ukraine that they should listen to Giuliani, Giuliani could say that he was doing investigative work. However, many people he is "interviewing" are from the corrupt Pro Russia government that was shown to have been extremely corrupt when the leader fled the country and went to Moscow.

Supposedly one thing Trump wants is to prove that Manaford was framed. However, the trial was based on money trails that showed that he violated American laws. The trial was not based on records from Ukraine that showed the amount of money he got - even if those records may have been what first brought this to light.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
46. More obstruction and the House leadership needs to come out now and call this obstruction
Sun Dec 8, 2019, 05:42 PM
Dec 2019

don't let the orange turd and his mob fixer get away with this crap.

DeminPennswoods

(15,246 posts)
48. TPM: Another oligarch linked to Guiliani campaign for dirt
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 05:59 PM
Dec 2019

This time it's Ihor Kolomoisky, an oligarch once seen as the power behind the throne of Zelensky (mostly because he owned the TV station that carried Zelensky's comedy series).

Link: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/kolomoisky-giuliani-cummins-ukraine-biden-dirt

His name is Ihor Kolomoisky, and he was once seen as the power behind the throne of President Volodymyr Zelensky. He has a lot to gain from any favor he can curry with the Trump administration: An FBI probe into his finances threatens to deprive Kolomoisky of his earnings and his freedom.

The nature and extent of Kolomoisky’s involvement in the pressure campaign remains unclear. There’s some indication that he began dishing the kind of bogus political dirt that Giuliani and Trump are seeking as far back as 2018. But in the murky world where Ukraine business and politics overlap, Kolomoisky has largely managed to remain on the periphery of the coverage of the Trump scandal.

That is, at least, until Rudy waltzed back into town.

Giuliani’s Kyiv trip last week gave away the game, according to Ukraine observers. He took a series of meetings with figures known for their close association with Kolomoisky. According to these Kolomoisky associates’ own accounts and Ukraine news reports, they fed more dirt to Giuliani, who was an eager recipient. One longtime Western official stationed in Kyiv, speaking anonymously due to lack of authorization to speak publicly, told TPM that it seemed Kolomoisky was “trying to become friends with Trump and Giuliani.”
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