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CuriousAsterisk

(36 posts)
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:08 PM Dec 2019

Lindsey Graham says he's '1,000% confident' Russia meddled in 2016 US election -- not Ukraine

Source: CNN

Washington (CNN)Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham on Tuesday said he is "1,000% confident" that Russia, not Ukraine, meddled in the 2016 US presidential election, breaking from President Donald Trump and others in his party who have pushed the discredited conspiracy theory.

"It was the Russians. I'm 1,000% confident that the hack of the DNC was by Russian operatives, no one else," the South Carolina senator told reporters on Capitol Hill.

He reiterated his stance to CNN saying, "I've got no doubt that it was the Russians who stole the DNC emails. It wasn't Ukraine. Russia was behind the stolen DNC emails and (John) Podesta and all that good stuff."

Graham continued later in the same interview: "So as to the Ukraine, they had zero to do with the hacking of the DNC and the stealing of the emails. Whether or not people from the Ukraine met with DNC operatives, I don't know. All I've seen is press reports that no one has validated."

His comments come as the impeachment probe into Trump and Ukraine moves into the next phase. The House Intelligence Committee on Tuesday released its report detailing how the President sought political gain through his dealings with Ukraine. The House Judiciary Committee will hold its first impeachment hearing on Wednesday.



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/03/politics/lindsey-graham-russia-election-meddling-ukraine-conspiracy/index.html



YEEESSSSS!!! Lindsey Graham is breaking with Trump!!! Lindsey Graham is breaking with Trump!!!!

OMG. OMG. OMG. YESSSSSSSS!!!

Come to the light side, Lindsey. It's still warm. And better than Trump.


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Lindsey Graham says he's '1,000% confident' Russia meddled in 2016 US election -- not Ukraine (Original Post) CuriousAsterisk Dec 2019 OP
Give that man a sticker! RandySF Dec 2019 #1
Graham must be off his happy pills beachbumbob Dec 2019 #2
Graham is feeling the sphincter of death. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2019 #30
or perhaps the polling in SC is showing him something? beachbumbob Dec 2019 #42
Leningrad Lindsey senses a change in the wind direction. lagomorph777 Dec 2019 #46
Or on them ck4829 Dec 2019 #49
Just wait. He's having a fit of lucidity but it won't be long before The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #3
completely agree Piasladic Dec 2019 #41
And that's what makes this really disappointing ck4829 Dec 2019 #50
Graham has flipped to often . . . Iliyah Dec 2019 #4
I don't trust Rebl2 Dec 2019 #21
Make up your mind, Graham. brush Dec 2019 #5
He's giving me whiplash n/t TexasBushwhacker Dec 2019 #6
Right ck4829 Dec 2019 #48
Filp/Walkback Coming in... wcmagumba Dec 2019 #7
Wait wut Leghorn21 Dec 2019 #8
No, he isnt breaking from him. How this will play out is that when Trump is impeached in the House cstanleytech Dec 2019 #9
I don't think a single GOP Senator will vote to convict unless enormous pressure is applied to a few OrlandoDem2 Dec 2019 #19
Egg-zatcly Ahpook Dec 2019 #34
Don't get too giddy. Zoonart Dec 2019 #10
Did Lindsey Graham discover and destroy his pee tape? Beartracks Dec 2019 #11
Wait, what: "Whether or not people from the Ukraine met with DNC operatives, I don't know"? Beartracks Dec 2019 #12
It means he attacking the TRUMP conflation of meddling with a Ukrainian leader writing an oped karynnj Dec 2019 #51
Must have deleted his Grindr page. Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #13
I wouldn't order the soup, Leningrad... AZ8theist Dec 2019 #14
But the polonium sammich..... lastlib Dec 2019 #20
Apparat-Chik-Fil-A FiveGoodMen Dec 2019 #52
Apparently his re-election campaign BlueIdaho Dec 2019 #15
I would say... Trueblue Texan Dec 2019 #16
I think yer on to something there, mon... (n/t) Pluvious Dec 2019 #29
Fingers crossed you're right. n/t MBS Dec 2019 #40
This is very bizarre. madaboutharry Dec 2019 #17
This guy flips like a tiddlywink. Talitha Dec 2019 #18
I think there is something we aren't aware of yet.. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #22
I think the Party is headed for a major confrontation. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 2019 #27
I'll believe that when I see it, or should I say when I see it for more than 15 minutes. George II Dec 2019 #23
Is this a crack in the stone wall? Nitram Dec 2019 #24
Only 1,000%? BigmanPigman Dec 2019 #25
so the russians hacked us but is he implying Ukraine could be blamed for something else? Demonaut Dec 2019 #26
He's seen overwhelming evidence that we haven't seen yet AJT Dec 2019 #28
Remember that report he was not going to read? safeinOhio Dec 2019 #31
Why don't they mention the RNC emails? justgamma Dec 2019 #32
Is this what we've been reduced to? Celebrating Lindsey... SKKY Dec 2019 #33
I'm having some fun pondering how much trouble Leningrad Lindsey's gonna be in w/Papa Bear (nt) mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #36
He has zero credibility no matter what he has to say. Chakaconcarne Dec 2019 #35
Could it have something to do with this story? Fragment Dec 2019 #37
Who Cares? quid amateur quo Dec 2019 #38
After promoting putins propaganda for trump duforsure Dec 2019 #39
Looks as if Mitt Romney may have stiffened what little spine Lindsey has left. yellowcanine Dec 2019 #43
Lenningrad Lindsey does NOT want MF45-1 coming to campaign in SC! Sancho Dec 2019 #44
Were the voices telling him this The Wizard Dec 2019 #45
Kick ck4829 Dec 2019 #47
Kicking, for whatever it's worth Hekate Dec 2019 #53
Let's see him put his votes where his mouth is sakabatou Dec 2019 #54

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
46. Leningrad Lindsey senses a change in the wind direction.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:12 AM
Dec 2019

He's afraid he's about to get blown away along with the rest of the GOP filth.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,606 posts)
3. Just wait. He's having a fit of lucidity but it won't be long before
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:11 PM
Dec 2019

he crawls back up inside Trump's colon again.

cstanleytech

(26,236 posts)
9. No, he isnt breaking from him. How this will play out is that when Trump is impeached in the House
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:15 PM
Dec 2019

it will go to the Senate for trial and the Republicans that might be vulnerable to a Democratic challenger will vote to convict but the ones that are safe either due to being in a deep red state or not up for reelection yet will vote not to convict.

Zoonart

(11,834 posts)
10. Don't get too giddy.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:16 PM
Dec 2019

He is also pushing censure as a bipartisan agreement to "spare the country the trauma of impeachment."

So...not guilty...but let's make a deal? He's a snake.

Beartracks

(12,799 posts)
11. Did Lindsey Graham discover and destroy his pee tape?
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:16 PM
Dec 2019

I ask that proverbially, of course. His sudden switch makes me wonder if he's a little more free to speak, so to speak.

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Beartracks

(12,799 posts)
12. Wait, what: "Whether or not people from the Ukraine met with DNC operatives, I don't know"?
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:20 PM
Dec 2019

WTF is this backhanded acknowledgment of reality? "1) Yes, Ukraine did not hack our election. BUT... 2) maybe they still did something shady with the DNC...."?

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karynnj

(59,498 posts)
51. It means he attacking the TRUMP conflation of meddling with a Ukrainian leader writing an oped
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 09:15 AM
Dec 2019

A totally fact based op-ed consistent with Ukraine's interests. There is nothing sneaky, shady or nefarious writing an op-ed based on their alarm hearing Trump speak of how Crimea was Russian etc.

lastlib

(23,159 posts)
20. But the polonium sammich.....
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:48 PM
Dec 2019

...from Apparat-Chik-Fil-A is real tasty! And it only costs a few rubles........

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
15. Apparently his re-election campaign
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:27 PM
Dec 2019

Field tested the whole “I’ma gonna start my own investigation of Vice President Biden all by myself” thing and it sank like a rock.

Trueblue Texan

(2,420 posts)
16. I would say...
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:33 PM
Dec 2019

Lindsey Graham has just thrown up his hands and given up. That makes me think something big is about to break and he is taking whatever steps he can that can throw him in a more redeeming light. Something is about to blow, y'all.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
17. This is very bizarre.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:38 PM
Dec 2019

Something is going on and we don’t know what it is. Lindsey Graham has no moral compass. Don’t trust him!

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
22. I think there is something we aren't aware of yet..
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:28 PM
Dec 2019

He and Mitt Romney have both made these statements today. Romney was at the WH for lunch last week, with Susan Collins. I wouldn't think he would be speaking out like that. Plus Kennedy's walk back...it's out of character, that is certain. We are missing something.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,295 posts)
27. I think the Party is headed for a major confrontation.
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:53 PM
Dec 2019

Lindsey is conceding that evidence points to Russia. Question is will he try to make a case that this act and Trump's actions amount to an impeachable offense?

Whatever is left of the Republican Party, it is going to cleave from the Party of Putin/Trump....sooner than later.

Demonaut

(8,914 posts)
26. so the russians hacked us but is he implying Ukraine could be blamed for something else?
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:52 PM
Dec 2019

they speak with both sides of their mouths

AJT

(5,240 posts)
28. He's seen overwhelming evidence that we haven't seen yet
Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:54 PM
Dec 2019

that would be the only reason he'd change his tune.

justgamma

(3,662 posts)
32. Why don't they mention the RNC emails?
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:05 AM
Dec 2019

There must have been some juicy stuff in them for Russia to blackmail them with.

SKKY

(11,794 posts)
33. Is this what we've been reduced to? Celebrating Lindsey...
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 12:11 AM
Dec 2019

...Graham’s random spasm of integrity and lucidity? We don’t need him. Lindsey Graham can go kick rocks.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
36. I'm having some fun pondering how much trouble Leningrad Lindsey's gonna be in w/Papa Bear (nt)
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:46 AM
Dec 2019
 

Fragment

(68 posts)
37. Could it have something to do with this story?
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 02:54 AM
Dec 2019
https://www.pressherald.com/2019/12/02/trump-administration-quietly-releases-lebanon-military-aid/

It’s starting to look like this is Trump’s modus operandi, and the Republicans’ only choice now would be to jump ship.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
39. After promoting putins propaganda for trump
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 05:19 AM
Dec 2019

He now has a change of heart, but is waiting to vote against impeaching trump. Which means its ok for any foreign country to determine who our president is by election fixing. That's what republicans in Congress are voting for soon, making it legally ok for a foreign country to determine our president in this country. Graham knows better, but he'd give trump a pass in a heartbeat knowing he's committed impeachable offenses, and let putin and other influence our elections for them. Doing that is the greatest risk to our national security to this country we've ever had. Are republicans willing to weaken our National Security, and damage our Democracy to let trump go free? Who are they really voting for, putin, or our country, we'll see soon.

yellowcanine

(35,694 posts)
43. Looks as if Mitt Romney may have stiffened what little spine Lindsey has left.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 08:51 AM
Dec 2019

Lindsey waited to see if Mitt got any immediate blowback from Trump for saying "it was Russia, not Ukraine" and when it didn't Lindsey decided he could risk it also. He is still a lying weasel though.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
44. Lenningrad Lindsey does NOT want MF45-1 coming to campaign in SC!
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 08:54 AM
Dec 2019

...that would cost him votes in a close race...so he's going to piss him off.

The Wizard

(12,536 posts)
45. Were the voices telling him this
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 09:48 AM
Dec 2019

in his head or coming from the electrical outlets? It seems Lindsey has gone full schizo. Will someone please get the Senator's fainting couch. His knickers are in a wad and he's clutching his pearls.

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