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UpInArms

(51,252 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 07:23 PM Nov 2019

Giuliani attacks foes, claims again to have 'insurance' to keep Trump loyal

Source: NBC News

President Donald Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani gave a wide-ranging interview on Saturday in which the former New York City mayor attacked numerous figures involved in the impeachment hearings and claimed for the second time to have "insurance" when questioned whether the president would remain loyal to him.

"I've seen things written like he's going to throw me under the bus," Giuliani said in an interview with Fox News' Ed Henry about the characterizations and comments made in the media about him and his relationship with the president. "When they say that, I say he isn't, but I have insurance."

"This is ridiculous," he added. "We are very good friends. He knows what I did was in order to defend him, not to dig up dirt on Biden."

Hours later, Giuliani claimed on Twitter that the insurance policy he was referring to consisted of "files in my safe" that allegedly show ways former Vice President Joe Biden's family had been "monetizing" his decades in office. These files would apparently become public if Giuliani were to "disappear," he said in the tweet.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1090171



Well, I guess trump will off you just to get the Biden dirt?

Smh ... wtf?
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Giuliani attacks foes, claims again to have 'insurance' to keep Trump loyal (Original Post) UpInArms Nov 2019 OP
Is there a bus big enough to handle all the MAGats that will be thrown under it? jpak Nov 2019 #1
Trump's a lightweight. He doesn't "disappear" anyone. Putin on the other hand.... underpants Nov 2019 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author thenelm1 Nov 2019 #17
"If I disappear" Bloomberg take underpants Nov 2019 #2
Rudy sure isn't the sharpest pencil in the drawer, is he? groundloop Nov 2019 #3
I was going to say.... SergeStorms Nov 2019 #20
Correct me if I am wrong, Scarsdale Nov 2019 #32
rudy really didn't think this one thru. Merlot Nov 2019 #36
This was my first thought as well. He means the Trump family which leads me to wonder chowder66 Nov 2019 #40
Oh, definitely. SergeStorms Nov 2019 #41
Giuliani is so stupid and corrupt. Like Trump, there really is no bottom to his depravity. SunSeeker Nov 2019 #4
This is comical, like a really bad or funny movie Hav Nov 2019 #6
Biden was always one of the least wealthy guys in the senate. He almost had to mortgage his tblue37 Nov 2019 #7
I saw this YouTube and made a note of it OKNancy Nov 2019 #9
A decent thing to do, by decent people. paleotn Nov 2019 #11
I do too. OKNancy Nov 2019 #12
If Giuliani 'disappears' what good does dirt on Joe Biden do him? Jarqui Nov 2019 #8
Its just "code" speak...trump knows what Rudy means Perseus Nov 2019 #24
I think you are right about the code speak UpInArms Nov 2019 #31
Wouldn't it be obstruction or conspiracy LakeArenal Nov 2019 #34
Or hide documents that someone committed a crime? ... aggiesal Nov 2019 #42
Put up or shut up, Rudy paleotn Nov 2019 #10
See what he did there? JohnnyRingo Nov 2019 #13
His explanation makes no sense -- as usual lettucebe Nov 2019 #14
Hold on a second... Talitha Nov 2019 #15
Ghoulliani knows the creature will not be loyal to him or anyone else, that is why the "insurance" Perseus Nov 2019 #23
Yeah I understand his message, but IMO that's pretty ballsy of him. Talitha Nov 2019 #33
BS Rudy Colludy. You got bupkas. Maybe you got the goods on Drumpf but bupkas on Joe. Evolve Dammit Nov 2019 #16
A veiled threat (don't throw me under the bus) to a US President and his allies. Oh My.... salin Nov 2019 #18
how is this not... Tribalceltic Nov 2019 #19
Right Perseus Nov 2019 #22
"Insurance"...that should be enough for people to understand how corrupt trump is Perseus Nov 2019 #21
Giuliani better have insurance to stay out of jail PuffedMica Nov 2019 #25
No insurance will cover his preexisiting conditions Deb Nov 2019 #26
This makes no sense Fortinbras Armstrong Nov 2019 #27
If he were innocent he would need no insurance randr Nov 2019 #28
Maybe the files are really about Trump's family woodsprite Nov 2019 #29
Yeats wrote that when padah513 Nov 2019 #30
That's no insurance Bayard Nov 2019 #35
Rudy is just a scumbag lonely bird Nov 2019 #37
With Rudy this could mean... duforsure Nov 2019 #38
LOL Skittles Nov 2019 #39

underpants

(182,271 posts)
5. Trump's a lightweight. He doesn't "disappear" anyone. Putin on the other hand....
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 07:30 PM
Nov 2019

Bed - Dogs - fleas

Response to underpants (Reply #5)

underpants

(182,271 posts)
2. "If I disappear" Bloomberg take
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 07:28 PM
Nov 2019

Giuliani Says Biden Documents to Be Released ‘If I Disappear’

Giuliani, Trump’s personal lawyer, also described as “sarcastic” a statement he made recently about having “an insurance policy” should he fall out of favor with the president.


Rudy Giuliani

@RudyGiuliani
TRUTH ALERT:

The statement I’ve made several times of having an insurance policy, if thrown under bus, is sarcastic & relates to the files in my safe about the Biden Family’s 4 decade monetizing of his office.

If I disappear, it will appear immediately along with my RICO chart.



Without offering proof, Giuliani tweeted that he had “files in my safe about the Biden Family’s 4 decade monetizing” of the former vice president and senator’s office. “If I disappear, it will immediately appear.”

Also on Saturday Giuliani, a former federal prosecutor, said on Twitter that “the Mafia couldn’t kill me so NO, I am not worried about the swamp press.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-11-23/giuliani-says-biden-documents-to-be-released-if-i-disappear

groundloop

(11,487 posts)
3. Rudy sure isn't the sharpest pencil in the drawer, is he?
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 07:29 PM
Nov 2019

He seems to have forgotten where tRump's previous 'personal attorney' is right now.

SergeStorms

(18,882 posts)
20. I was going to say....
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 11:25 PM
Nov 2019

the last Trump lawyer who bragged about having secret evidence in his safe is behind bars right now. Maybe it's time for the FBI to make another 6:00 AM raid?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
32. Correct me if I am wrong,
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 10:21 AM
Nov 2019

but wouldn't it be more beneficial for him to have the safe filled with tRump files? After all, if he gets thrown under the bus, the Biden info. would be useful to tRump (IF it exists) whereas the tRump info. could damage orange ass. Is Rudy tired of living, I wonder, tempting the gop in this way. If he has damaging info. on the Bidens, then why was he digging around in the Ukraine?? Oh, Rudy, of all people YOU should know the word "loyal" is not in tRump's vocabulary unless it applies to others being loyal to the great orange, bloated toad.

chowder66

(9,010 posts)
40. This was my first thought as well. He means the Trump family which leads me to wonder
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 05:56 PM
Nov 2019

if they are trying to locate something in Ukraine that indicates Trump and his family (something along the lines of Manafort and the ledger) or maybe the "Biden" hunt is just a distraction for their con-games they are playing in Ukraine. The press needs to figure out what else this administration is doing over there.

SergeStorms

(18,882 posts)
41. Oh, definitely.
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 02:57 AM
Nov 2019

I hope Rudy's safe is filled with enough criminal evidence to put the entire Trump family away for two lifetimes. Nothing could make me happier. Literally nothing could make me happier.

SunSeeker

(51,367 posts)
4. Giuliani is so stupid and corrupt. Like Trump, there really is no bottom to his depravity.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 07:29 PM
Nov 2019

They deserve each other.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
6. This is comical, like a really bad or funny movie
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 07:32 PM
Nov 2019

Of course, the maggats will now say that there is definite proof and Rude has it.
He keeps it secret and by that protects Biden because...for reasons that make sense, I suppose.

Also, I don't think I need to say it but when you are talking about insurance more than once, it's pretty clear that the guy you work for is a criminal. It also reinforces your effort to make it clear that you don't want to be the fall guy. It's an admission of guilt and a warning to the people who participated in your crimes.

tblue37

(64,979 posts)
7. Biden was always one of the least wealthy guys in the senate. He almost had to mortgage his
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 07:33 PM
Nov 2019

home as VP to cover Beau's medical costs. He is one of the few people who didn't make a killing off republic service.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
9. I saw this YouTube and made a note of it
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 08:02 PM
Nov 2019

Obama offers money to pay Beau’s expenses so Joe and Jill won’t have to sell their house.

paleotn

(17,778 posts)
11. A decent thing to do, by decent people.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 08:21 PM
Nov 2019

There once was a time when decent people inhabited the halls of power in the white house. People you could trust. You could sleep soundly at night, knowing they had our best interests at heart. I miss those days.

Jarqui

(10,110 posts)
8. If Giuliani 'disappears' what good does dirt on Joe Biden do him?
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 08:02 PM
Nov 2019

It's crazy talk. Biden isn't the real threat.

Trump has to consider a fall guy. I can't see anyone else to try except Rudy & Mulvaney.

Rudy very likely has great insurance: he could probably bring the Russia scandal down on Trump's head. But he probably couldn't do it without serving some time himself.

Mulvaney probably has dirt on Trump as well.

If Rudy is a concern to bring Trump down and removing him gives Trump a good chance to hang around, the guy that would worry me most is Putin. Rudy may have all kinds of sinister info about Putin but none of it will affect his security.

aggiesal

(8,864 posts)
42. Or hide documents that someone committed a crime? ...
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 12:22 PM
Nov 2019

If he has evidence that the Biden's have committed 40 years of crimes
then I say, prove it.

If you want to show that the Biden's are a crime family then turn over
your documents to any district attorney to begin investigating.

I betting that the documents still have not be doctored enough to turn
over and when he does, it will be to the Senate for trial so that can make
it about Biden's "so called" crimes instead of Pendejo45's actual crimes.

paleotn

(17,778 posts)
10. Put up or shut up, Rudy
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 08:03 PM
Nov 2019

Why the Ukrainian investigation if you've already got "files"? Rudy...you're not making any sense....again.

JohnnyRingo

(18,581 posts)
13. See what he did there?
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 08:51 PM
Nov 2019

I think he originally meant he had dirt on Trump to protect his ass but decided to walk that back.

But by saying he has dirt on Biden that will become public if something happens to him, he's implying that the Bidens are corrupt like Mafioso and may try to kill him to stop his investigation. Quick thinking asshole.

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
14. His explanation makes no sense -- as usual
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 08:52 PM
Nov 2019

No kidding, Trump will not only throw him under the bus (if his "insurance" is more dirt on Biden's son) but will get in the driver's seat (loves to pretend drive) and run over him then reverse a few times.

How would keeping this info be a deterrent to Trump? These people are beyond stoopid

Talitha

(6,477 posts)
15. Hold on a second...
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 08:57 PM
Nov 2019

"... claimed for the second time to have "insurance" when questioned
whether the president would remain loyal to him."

Loyal to HIM? I hope Twitler hears about this.
(We know he's not going to read it).

Wow, Ghoulliani is nutz to think Twitler would be loyal to anyone.

Nice life ya got there, Rudy... be a shame if anything happened to it.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
23. Ghoulliani knows the creature will not be loyal to him or anyone else, that is why the "insurance"
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 01:10 AM
Nov 2019

The "insurance" is just a message to the creature..."you throw me under the bus and I will make sure people know of all your bad deeds"...it is a threat, not a search for loyalty.

Talitha

(6,477 posts)
33. Yeah I understand his message, but IMO that's pretty ballsy of him.
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 11:31 AM
Nov 2019

Twitler acts like a mob-boss... so what does a mob boss do if/when an underling gives them a threat that's thinly veiled as a warning? Maybe it would help if I had seen any of the Godfather movies. One thing for sure, all of this crooked stuff makes me glad I'm just a poor little nobody.

Evolve Dammit

(16,632 posts)
16. BS Rudy Colludy. You got bupkas. Maybe you got the goods on Drumpf but bupkas on Joe.
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 09:29 PM
Nov 2019

Did I spell it right? It's a Rudy quote.

salin

(48,954 posts)
18. A veiled threat (don't throw me under the bus) to a US President and his allies. Oh My....
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 11:06 PM
Nov 2019

hearing echoes of "Lions and Tigers and Bears, Oh My!" in response to the situation - as a metaphor for the ugly levels of dirt these players are collecting upon one another, as they engage in activities that undermine our govt/society.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
22. Right
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 01:07 AM
Nov 2019

They make it as him telling a joke, but now he has told it twice...It is definitely a warning, and like you said, blackmail.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
21. "Insurance"...that should be enough for people to understand how corrupt trump is
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 01:06 AM
Nov 2019

What a warning...trump must be asking Putin what to do with Giuliani.

Giuliani should turn the door knob to his house with gloves, then throw the gloves away in the fire or have them examined, he should hire a taster before drinking or eating anything, and also put all that "insurance" in writing where it can be found in case of fire..."Break Glass in Case of Fire".

Just let the creature know the "insurance" is well guarded, under supervision and ready to be taken out in case of any emergency.

PuffedMica

(1,061 posts)
25. Giuliani better have insurance to stay out of jail
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 06:59 AM
Nov 2019

Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen should be on Giuliani's mind whenever he does work for Trump.

Fortinbras Armstrong

(4,473 posts)
27. This makes no sense
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 08:32 AM
Nov 2019

Giuliani is saying, "If Trump throws me under the bus, I will give him evidence that he wants". That's not "insurance" to keep in Trump's good graces, that's an inducement to disown him.

randr

(12,408 posts)
28. If he were innocent he would need no insurance
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 09:09 AM
Nov 2019

They are criminals who know they commited crimes, know they have been caught, and are going to do their best to blame someone else. Typical mafia style.

woodsprite

(11,853 posts)
29. Maybe the files are really about Trump's family
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 09:15 AM
Nov 2019

After all, I’m sure being a prosecutor in NY would give Rudy access to lots of mob info. And saying he has files to be released about Trump’s cabal could be seen as blackmailing a president.

padah513

(2,483 posts)
30. Yeats wrote that when
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 09:37 AM
Nov 2019

Things fall apart, the centre cannot hold. Nunes, Giuliani, somebody else next week... the edges are starting to crumble.

Bayard

(21,802 posts)
35. That's no insurance
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 11:55 AM
Nov 2019

Info on Biden? The only way that is insurance is if he has proof that Bidens did nothing wrong.

lonely bird

(1,642 posts)
37. Rudy is just a scumbag
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 02:29 PM
Nov 2019

If he had any thing on Biden he would have used it already. More likely he has crap on Donnie the Dimwit.

duforsure

(11,882 posts)
38. With Rudy this could mean...
Sun Nov 24, 2019, 04:09 PM
Nov 2019

... He's already talking to save himself from going to prison. He knows trump , and he'll try to set him up to take the fall for trump. I think Rudy has told House people trump's criminal activities, and why he hasn't already been arrested. He knows how it works, and knew what to do to save himself . He's talking before it's too late. He's scared of going to prison, plus he knows too much and could have a target on his back.

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