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Julian English

(434 posts)
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 01:25 AM Nov 2019

Charges of Ukrainian Meddling? A Russian Operation, U.S. Intelligence Says

Source: New York Times

Republicans have sought for weeks amid the impeachment inquiry to shift attention to President Trump’s demands that Ukraine investigate any 2016 election meddling, defending it as a legitimate concern while Democrats accuse Mr. Trump of pursuing fringe theories for his benefit.

The Republican defense of Mr. Trump became central to the impeachment proceedings when Fiona Hill, a respected Russia scholar and former senior White House official, added a harsh critique during testimony on Thursday. She told some of Mr. Trump’s fiercest defenders in Congress that they were repeating “a fictional narrative.” She said that it likely came from a disinformation campaign by Russian security services, which also propagated it.

In a briefing that closely aligned with Dr. Hill’s testimony, American intelligence officials informed senators and their aides in recent weeks that Russia had engaged in a yearslong campaign to essentially frame Ukraine as responsible for Moscow’s own hacking of the 2016 election, according to three American officials. The briefing came as Republicans stepped up their defenses of Mr. Trump in the Ukraine affair.

The revelations demonstrate Russia’s persistence in trying to sow discord among its adversaries — and show that the Kremlin apparently succeeded, as unfounded claims about Ukrainian interference seeped into Republican talking points. American intelligence agencies believe Moscow is likely to redouble its efforts as the 2020 presidential campaign intensifies. The classified briefing for senators also focused on Russia’s evolving influence tactics, including its growing ability to better disguise operations.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/22/us/politics/ukraine-russia-interference.html



Yes, the Senator have briefed briefed that the Russians have advanced this BS that Ukraine has advanced this.
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Charges of Ukrainian Meddling? A Russian Operation, U.S. Intelligence Says (Original Post) Julian English Nov 2019 OP
unless fiona hill is an idiot or a liar, linbaugh and hanity are russian tools certainot Nov 2019 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author paleotn Nov 2019 #4
What is evidence Putin wanted Palin as vp in 2008? delisen Nov 2019 #5
I doubt it JonLP24 Nov 2019 #6
I suspect the number of Republican senators and house members have been in Russia's pocket cstanleytech Nov 2019 #2
Seeped into Rethuglican talking points? paleotn Nov 2019 #3
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
1. unless fiona hill is an idiot or a liar, linbaugh and hanity are russian tools
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 01:31 AM
Nov 2019

and they been tools since at least 2008 when putin wanted palin as vp and used mccain campaign cochair manafort and linmbauggh to make it so

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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
6. I doubt it
Mon Nov 25, 2019, 05:31 AM
Nov 2019

McCain was more anti Russia than Obama. He used to ridicule the right wing for wanting to restart the cold war.

cstanleytech

(26,212 posts)
2. I suspect the number of Republican senators and house members have been in Russia's pocket
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 02:41 AM
Nov 2019

for a while now.
Question is though what could the Russians have on them that would make them so afraid?
About the only thing I can think of would be some sort of sex like scandal but in this day and age the only time that's major issue is when it is one that involves children.

paleotn

(17,870 posts)
3. Seeped into Rethuglican talking points?
Sat Nov 23, 2019, 11:16 AM
Nov 2019

They were given to Rethuglicans by their KGB handlers.

I don't care what they call themselves now. It's still KGB. Nothing ever really changed.

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